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Old 08-02-2004, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by face of glass
Where would you like the song ("Ricky") to go then? I'm guessing here that you're not moved by it emotionally. I personally love the damn thing. I think it is 'beautifully pointless', let's say it like that, unlike "WTTR...S" & "WISYA", which are bit too 'pointy' for me. And it is just as difficult to create a glorious question mark into your head as it is to 'bare your soul' as it has been generally expected of Stevie.
I don't hate it... it's a cool little song, and I enjoy it immensely. But I don't see it as being strong enough for album inclusion. I mean, for being 4:23 in length, it doesn't have much going on:
"Ricky, can hear you me cry? Didn't even say goodbye. No one looks and no one sees. Ricky, won't you tell me, please (please, please, please)?
Tell me, tell me, tell me... oh, Ricky, won't you come out tonight? Uptown.
Oh, how I miss you so. Never gonna let you go. No one looks and no one sees. Ricky, won't you tell me, please (please, please, please)?
Tell me, tell me, tell me... oh, Ricky, won't you come out tonight? Uptown.
Tell me, tell me, tell me... oh, Ricky, won't you come out tonight? Uptown.
Tell me, tell me, tell me... oh, Ricky, won't you come out tonight? Uptown.
Tell me, tell me, tell me... oh, Ricky, won't you come out tonight? Uptown."

See, Gaius, what you don't realize is that I don't think EVERY song has to have deep lyrics or some substantive meaning. The ones that do, definitely have more meaning and appeal to me, but that's never stopped me from enjoying the others.
It's just that, compared with Christine & Lindsey's other songs on 'Tango' (and even elsewhere), "Ricky" and "Down Endless Street" seem anemic.


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Originally Posted by face of glass
Honestly, I'm interested in why "Silver Springs" is suddenly in a better situation than these other b-sides in these survivor polls. Yes, it is on the DVD-A and Enhanced CD reissues now, but why wasn't it on the album earlier?

Of course, if people still want to believe that "technical reasons" kept "Silver Springs off Rumours, fine. Then it's my right to believe that "technical reasons" (in addition to the Nicksian reasons ) kept "You And I Part 1" (look, I got it right this time), "Down Endless Street", "Book Of Miracles" and "Ricky" off Tango In The Night. If CD had been the dominant format in 1987, the band members might have put these on the album in addition to what's already on it, of course 'finishing' two of them.
I think one of the biggest factors pointing to how the band felt about "Silver Springs," is that they actually took the song to completion. And worked damn hard on it, from all appearances.
They didn't just abandon it at some point and move on, as they apparently did with their other non-LP b-sides.

I don't think they would have spent so much time on a song that they didn't feel strongly about including.

Obviously, they made the final decision NOT to include it... whether it be for time constraints (Mick and Lindsey have both said that the band was NOT willing to compromise the sound quality, by increasing the running time), or because they felt they needed another uptempo tune ("I Don't Want To Know") to balance things, or a combination of both.

But the band feels that "Silver Springs" should have "always been a part of 'Rumours'," and I've never heard them say that about "Ricky" or "Down Endless Street" or "Cool Water."
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