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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
But there in is my point - the far right thinks Hannity is a Patriot because he uses similar tools to convey his message  In the end, I like MM's product - I think this film is good. It does make, to quote Carne, dubious associations to wit - so what if the Saudis got put on a plane and taken out of the US. MM IMO is trying to use that to link the govt.'s actions with supporting OBL on the day we got attacked. Those people had nothing to do with OBL and his attack Yet, MM does not say that. He knows that the use of the SA name and the bin Laden (there are hundreds in that immedicate family) will cause people to somehow in their heads think W aided OBL. Intererstingly, W did this same technique with linking OBL with Iraq. While there were mostly minor and insignificant connections (except for the medical treatment issue) - W knew that most Americans will view all Middle Easterners the same. They will not be able to separate in thier heads the fact that not everyone wearing a turban is OBL. So, MM does this with the BL name. How many people in America know that OBL is disowned by his family and he is one of hundreds of BL's - many of which do not even know him or have seen him in years :shurg: Does MM say that? No. He just uses the visual to make the connection. Interestingly, Richard Clark has said he bears the responsibility for allowing the Saudis to leave.
Also, how many parents who are proud that their children served and died in Iraq did MM show. Certainly they exist.
In the end, the film, by his own admission, is one sided and is propoganda. I do not fault him for it. I just feel the need to point that out whenever you all seemingly take it for the be all and end all of the unbiased truth, which it is not and was never intended to be, which MM readily admits. |
No, Hannity is an ass because he maliciously lies and misleads his audience, all the while claiming it is fact. Michael Moore does not do that. Point me to one instance in his film where he lies. I submit you cannot. The pundits were all up in arms over his "claims" that the bin Laden's and Saudi's were allowed to leave while commercial airspace was shut down, yet he NEVER made that claim in the film. He explicitly stated that they were allowed to leave
after September 13th, then proceeded to show the audience the flight lists. He is not trying to link Bush to OBL, he's showing the audience the links between the Bush's, the bin Laden's, and the Saudi's. And he provided concrete evidence that they all were involved in a moneymaking relationship. It can't be refuted. And OBL has not been disowned by his family; do an internet search and you will see that they've had many personal encounters over the years.
And Moore has never said his film is propaganda. He said it's one-sided and anti-Bush, but propaganda is not the right word for it. Again, show me a documentary that isn't biased.