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Old 03-17-2020, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires View Post
First off the shipper comment was not about or towards you it was in response to someone else who commented after you.

If you didn't cherry pick my comments you'd see that I acknowledged Chris.

However, those 18 top 40 hits of hers that you mention-- tell me, were those before or after they hooked up with BN-- those magical 3-part harmonies and LB and his production?? (Indeed Chris said on Johnny Walker right before returning that when she heard the material L&S had she thought 'right, I need to up my game here' with regards to her songwriting).

I agree that she was the only one of the Mick/Chris/John trio to have had individual success. She writes and sings, so that makes sense. What would Mick or John be doing without a singer songwriter? Maybe they'd have ended up doing session work if they hadn't found new frontpeople. Thing is, while Chris is fabulous, she is not really a "front person" -- by her own words. Nor does she want to be one -- by her own words. So again, having Chris is great, but it wouldn't have gotten them the crowds and recognition having a more charismatic person up front would have (Bob, Peter, etc). With BN they got TWO.

You seem to want to argue that the Brits in the band without adding anyone new could have gone on to be as big as they were minus BN. Preposterous. With someone new upfront other than BN, possibly. But it wouldn't clearly have ended up with the same batch of songs that they still all cash in on to this day. (Rumours reissue volume 12, anyone?) There is (was ) a unique chemistry to the mix of those 5 that I personally doubt they would ever have had with anyone else.

As for Keith, no one doubts he knew the mix of the two BN/FM had the potential to make it big. That's his stock in trade. I don't see how that negates anything. If neither side had anything to bring to the equation why would he have bothered to bring them together? After all he's the guy who saw Fritz and said the band wasn't that special but those two kids out front, now they had something and he'd be interested in them. And again, Rhiannon, Landslide, I'm So Afraid along with half of Stevie's eventual solo material were already written when they were working on BN2. Waddy is a great player, he might even be technically more sophisticated than LB, but would he have been a great front person? Would he have the charisma to pull FM out of its cult status, getting them to sell more than the same 100k albums? I'd vote no.

I won't cherry pick your comments. I'll just say this. I've had so many shippers argue with me that B/N took FM to where it was today. And, I"m only saying that it's true, in part.
Truth is, B/N was in fact dropped. In fact, they were using free recording time.

I'm saying it was a symbiotic joining of people. You can speculate all you want. (And it's fun to do so). But, I truly believe they helped each other out.
The other thing I want to say is that Stevie has acknowledged they(the brits) were far better off than B/N. She's done so in many instances. Also, has said that the three part harmony was beyond. And then you look at Christine having 2 really successful hits. They are still heavily played today. I probably could hear SYLM everyday if I put on the right radio stations, or went into CVS all day.

Seems like I may have irritated you, and if I did, I didn't mean to. You were addressing my comments in Steve's quote. So I was confused a bit on who you were speaking to.
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