Mick Fleetwood on His Peter Green Tribute Show, Future Plans, and Lindsey Buckingham
 

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JANUARY 28, 2020 11:56AM ET

Mick Fleetwood on His Peter Green Tribute Show, Future Plans, and Lindsey Buckingham

“Lindsey’s legacy is alive and well, and as it should be,” says the drummer. “It will never be taken away, and never be down-spoken by any of us.”

By ANDY GREENE

Mick Fleetwood should be relaxing. He just wrapped up a 13-month world tour — Fleetwood Mac’s first since parting ways with Lindsey Buckingham and replacing him with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers guitarist Mike Campbell and Crowded House frontman Neil Finn — but the 72-year-old drummer is already deep into planning his next project: a tribute concert to Peter Green, who co-founded Fleetwood Mac and wrote many of the group’s early classics before being sidelined by mental illness and addiction issues. The show is set for February 25th in London, with special guests David Gilmour, Christine McVie, John Mayall, and Steven Tyler. “I wanted people to know that I did not form this band — Peter Green did,” Fleetwood says. “And I wanted to celebrate those early years of Fleetwood Mac, which started this massive ball that went down the road over the last 50 years.”

Peter Green hasn’t been seen much in public over the past decade. When is the last time that you and he spoke?
It was about a year and a half ago. I went out with my girlfriend, and spent the day with him. He’s not the Peter that I knew, clearly. But he plays acoustic guitar. He loves painting, and fishing is his hobby. It’s no secret that he took a left turn and never came back, but he’s OK. He also has really little or no ego at all, which is unbelievable. You want to go, “Do you realize what you did?” “No, no. Yeah, I suppose so.” He has no ego about what he did.

Might he perform at the show?
No. But it seems he’s going to come. He wants to keep a very, very low profile, and that’s fine. This is about the journey Peter took into the music, and that music is still alive. Everyone that’s on this show has their own poignant story about being connected to that early band.

Will John McVie be there?
Not as of the moment. He’s in the middle of one of his sailing trips. But Christine [McVie] will be there.

I loved hearing you guys play “Man of the World” on this past tour.
Neil Finn did a really good job on that. It’s a very prophetic song. It wasn’t exactly the last song [Peter] made with us. That was “The Green Manalishi.” When he made those songs, we had no idea that he was suffering internally as much as he was. But if you listen to the words, it’s crucifyingly obvious what was going on. But a beautiful song. A poignant song.

Peter was one of about 10 guitarists who have left the band over the years. Why can’t you and John ever hold onto guitarists?
We don’t really know. It’s daunting when you look at all the great guitarists that have come through our ranks. But John and I have always just kept the band going. We can’t do this on our own. Every time [someone leaves] we go, “Well, what the **** are we going to do now? Find another guitar player!”

I’ve heard there’s talk of a Fleetwood Mac Broadway musical.
There’s always been talk about doing something like that. I hope it can happen at some point. A lot of people, understandably, would say, “Wow, that would make a really good musical.” It is an incredibly interesting story, especially the period around Rumours. But it’s not formed.

How do you feel physically, after wrapping up that recent marathon tour?
It’s actually coming off the road that’s the downer. You find yourself wondering why you start to get antsy around 8 p.m. It’s this military-type of stress where you just keep going and going, so you have to be careful with how you work your re-entry so you don’t beat yourself up too much.

What are the future plans for the group? I’ve read that Stevie Nicks is preparing a long solo tour.
We had a lovely get-together in L.A. about two weeks ago after the tour. We are all very open to that continuing in the band. There’s no breaking up of the band. We were like, “Give us a break. Give us a few weeks before we start wondering what to do.” In the New Year, we’ll touch on what the vision is.

What is your vision for what that might be?
We’re not going to do a [long] tour, I would say, ever again. But there’s loads of alternatives. People like Peter Gabriel have a lovely way of working where they go and just do four or five major festivals during the summer. That’s the sort of vision that I see for Fleetwood Mac. We’re able to cherry-pick things that have dignity, and are fun to do, and they’re historically interesting.

A lot of bands are doing farewell tours now. Can you ever see Fleetwood Mac doing one of those?
I suppose. It would be the right thing to do, to let people know you’re not wanting to play again. We are not at that point, but if we get there, it’s a pretty good, gracious thing to let people know they’ll never see the band play again.

Do you see any scenario where you’d ever play with Lindsey Buckingham again?
No. Fleetwood Mac is a strange creature. We’re very, very committed to Neil and Mike, and that passed away a time ago, when Lindsey left. And it’s not a point of conversation, so I have to say no. It’s a full drama of Fleetwood Mac, no doubt. His legacy is alive and well, and as it should be. A major, major part that will never be taken away, and never be down-spoken by any of us. Neil and Mike have tremendous respect for Lindsey. The situation was no secret. We were not happy. It was not working, and we parted company. And that really is the all of it.

Have you spoken to Lindsey since his heart attack?
I have not.

Sounds as if Mick were downplaying a Stevie Nicks solo tour year. Is it possible he talked Stevie into being available in 2020 for Fleetwood Mac?


Somebody is peeved that he was sued. :laugh:

mick is always very vague and nondescript when it comes to things that are completely out of his control (read: in stevie's control), but he wants to keep people engaged just in case. he was like that on the FM music that ended being BuckVie for years. and, just read all his responses in this interview - including one on LB which is full of circular nonsense and not saying anything except making it clear their initial "he didn't want to tour" was bs excuse and yet again lying about "he left" which was their original pr idea that got blown to pieces when what they did leaked.

also, apparently Campbell said something while promoting his current tour (full text is in UK's Uncut) which is parallel to what mick said here:

"Campbell also reveals that Fleetwood Mac are currently on hiatus after their recent mammoth world tour. “It was a year and a half! I’ve never toured that long in my life. It was really joyful. Great songs, and I love that rhythm section – I had so much fun playing with Mick and John. We ended the tour and we had a meeting. They are all even older than me, and I’m pretty old, and they were saying, I don’t think we’re up for doing any more long tours like this ever again. Stevie wants to do a solo show, she’s doing that right now, but in a year or so, if a handful of dates show up that made sense, everybody is open to doing those. So we’re on hiatus until things develop.”

all of this proves that it really probably is for the best that Lindsey sued their collective arses and moved on. Even with him out of the equation, pushing to make some new music etc, they are still persistent on showing up to play a greatest hits set and call it a day.

The behavior hasn't changed, they will break for Stevie to do a really stale solo tour paired with whatever boomer rock act they can find to pair her up with and Fleetwood Mac will pop up to play some festival dates here and there with Mike and Neil on a retainer agreement.

But the prospect of doing anything remotely interesting again has proven to be a mute point with him or without him in the band. Buckingham McVie was the last hurrah.

I look forward to what Lindsey may have planned in the coming year or so.

You are spot on!
Mick speaks politically and says stuff like "its possible" or other language but was firm with Lindsey ever playing again (even though Lindsey said he was open to it). He definitely is peeved.
So he has reduced the band for a few "important" gigs here or there or most importantly when Fin and Campbell are available LMAO.

Didn't ask the obvious question: "You and Stevie said this current lineup would be doing recording in the studio. Was that ever seriously in the cards?"

Coz Stevie told him no. You know Mick is a total 'never say never' person. Stevie is not, especially regards Lindsey. He's saying it's not possible because that's what he must say to keep Stevie onboard.:mad:

yup.

if he saw no chance of ever touring with Stevie again, he'd sing a different tune.

So you're not ever going to do a big tour again, just cherry picking festivals etc. But then if the band is ever "done" you'll do a farewell tour. How does that square up? A small, intimate farewell tour? :shrug:

And not speaking to LB... well, well. part of me thinks he wouldn't be able to keep it from Stevie and he's paranoid she'll get mad at him. You know if he spoke to LB Lindsey would let it be known. Mick can't risk it. But the other part of it is possibly what others have said.... he's pissed they got sued. Mick doesn't like giving money away. And he's cast his lot with Stevie and he's fine with that. ka-ching. Still a total dick move.

ugh..every time that this creepy grifter opens his mouth lately it makes my skin crawl.

They have already refused to do Glastonbury twice due to money, I don’t even quite understand how this odd reformation would be that big of a draw for festivals.

They truly are, as human beings, ungrateful pieces of garbage.

Integrity and love are two words that should never come out of their ignorant, collective mouths.

And Christine.....really?

So sad. Legacy is not enough. Not that way at least. Well, it was unlikely that I would go to a FMconcert after On with the show. Great gig but I didn't like how their voices sounded, I thought the time had come.

Now, with no chance of a Lindsey come back, I will definitely never see them again. I felt very sad for Christine, since I was so happy when she came back.

That last answer speaks volumes for the type of man Mick really is. He’s repulsive.

And why is John not doing this Peter thing? That is really weird.

Lindsey hasn’t been doing much talking (figuratively and literally) for a while now so I doubt that was the issue. Mick and all the rest of them just aren’t great people and likely never were. This says a lot in my opinion. There is a lot that can happen between coworkers and then there’s rational human behavior when someone you knew for decades nearly dies.

If you really look at this interview, the interviewer was able to make Mick admit he was a liar without saying the word, "liar".

Great read for those that need confirmation of what really went down. Had nothing to do with touring, or LB solo shows. It had everything to do with $tevie wanting him out and wanting control of the band, and using Mick to do get her that control.

Will LB ever play with Fleetwoood M.........errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr $tevie Nicks band?

No, $tevie will not allow it. And $he'll refuse to tour if I were to ask him. And that would leave us without the $$ we would be asking if we were doing a few tour dates in 2020/2021.



^^^^ I translated for you guys.

I can finally have a good laugh about all those fans who wanted to believe Lindsey "must have done something very, very bad" in order to upset the band that much. Those same fans who claimed that "we don't know if they haven't contacted Lindsey since the accident"
Well, now WE KNOW. And we also know that they couldn't care less if Lindsey leaves or dies. They don't.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were eagerly waiting for him to die. :nod::nod:

It's pretty obvious at this point that Mick has a big 'ol ball gag in his mouth, firmly placed by Stevie Diva.


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"we were not happy" = Stevie was not happy = potential no Stevie = potential no money = stick to the script Mick!

The whole thing is 50 shades of bullsh*t.

Ok first of all: That's hot!!!

Memo:

From: $tephanie
To: Mick, Chris, and John
Subject: Being Happy and keeping you all rich.

Below is the script you all should follow:


Script: No talking to Lindsey in any way shape or form.
IF asked, we will not be ever playing with him again. But, you should let reporters know that we don't want questions about Lindsey.
And Christine, if you ever do an album or email that barking fool again, I'll send you back to London for another 15 years. Don't test me, girl.

Love Anabelle Lee

A friend posted this in one of the groups on Facebook when trying to have a rational discussion with some of the Lindsey bashers.

Fleetwood Mac Still Not Interested in Lindsey Buckingham Return
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Sharing this post from a friend in another forum. She has medical degrees and expertise in the issues of abuse , narcissism etc behaviours

There is no proof he abused Stevie and that was certainly not why he was fired. Stevie Nicks has said on 3 separate occasions she’s never been abused.

Understanding that doesn’t mean anyone thinks Lindsey is a god. Lindsey isn’t a narcissist, he doesn’t meet the diagnostic criteria for the disorder.

A lot of misinformation surrounds the 1987 break up. Stevie is the one who got violent. This is what Stevie said about the night at Chris’ house when LB said he wasn’t touring and couldn’t: “ I went crazy; I ran up and jumped on his back and started hitting and scratching him, I wanted to kill him- he ran outside to his car and I ran after him.” According to the rest, he finally grabbed her by the neck and sat her down hard on the hood of his car until the other guys came out because he was afraid she would jump on his car and he’d run over her if he drove away. The problem is, Mick put an embellished version of that event in the book he wrote after the band split which pissed off both Stevie and Lindsey. When they reunited in 1997, Mick publicly apologized to Lindsey and Stevie and said he was “a bit fast and loose with the truth.”

Unfortunately, the book was already out for years and sloppy writers who call themselves ‘biographers’ have just cut and pasted that into their newer material which is not fair to anyone and is where much of the misinformation comes from. As Mick, Stevie and Lindsey did an interview in 1997 about him leaving during Tango. He left because Stevie was so addicted to alcohol and Klonopin she couldn’t work on the album. Much of the album was Lindsey’s unreleased solo work he was saving for his own album. All Stevie’s work and vocals needed to be added after the work was done. He wrote melodies specific for the voice issues she was having at the time. Mick was bankrupt, his wife booted him out. He was addicted to coke living in Lindsey’s driveway in a trailer Lindsey gave him. Buckingham was at his wits end dealing with two addicts and trying to work with them after he’d been drug free for several years. His health suffered during that time and his epilepsy got worse.

Anyone who thinks Stevie Nicks would stay and work with a man who abused her for 40 years doesn’t get her personality. She doesn’t suffer in silence and has no history of putting her needs second to anyone. Stevie’s parents also adored Lindsey. In fact it was he who they called during that ten year break up like time with the band, to get Stevie in her final rehab when she was walking around carrying baby dolls and talking to them. He also sang and played at both her parent’s funerals.

According to the lawsuit which was settled for everything asked for, abuse is not why he was fired nor would he have prevailed given abuse would be sufficient grounds for separation from the band. Stevie has very clearly stated in the last 7 years that she has never been abused by anyone.

I’m a Stevie fan and have been since I was 14. I’ve bought everything she’s ever done at least once. I’ve seen Fleetwood Mac 6 times and Stevie solo 14 times. I’ve never bought anything the others did solo nor have I seen any other band member solo. I add that I’ve been accused of being a Lindsey lover and Stevie hater for simply stating facts that came straight from the horses’ mouth.

As a fan, I’ve very glad to know she’s not an abused woman.
According to Stevie in the 12/30/2013 interview with the Daily Mail: “In my entire life no man has ever gotten physical with me.”

And they never had a problem with going to see a band with an abuser. So stupid. They are actually angry at facts. Like they are disappointed she wasn’t abused.

I'm happy to assist in spicing this place up, it's good to keep the blood flowing.

Oh my, I better stop while I'm ahead....naughty naughty

This is what you get for worrying about people you have known all your life. That's probably why they couldn't care less if Lindsey lives or dies. They're not like him. They were never like him.

It's a good thing they will probably never need him again. But, who knows.... :shrug: As long as he doesn't pick up that damn phone.....

Lindsey accommodated her AGAIN going back to recording music for what became of the EP and later Buckingham McVie. He talks about writing songs specifically in the keys that Stevie prefers to work in.

Ok here is my slightly weird theory, hear me out.


I think things started to really get weird going all the way back to when Lindsey and Stevie both played back their new albums together with some record executive. I forgot where we first heard this story, was it in the IYD documentary or press.

Anyhow, you have to wonder if in that meeting Stevie felt Lindsey got more praise than she did...who knows. But I have to wonder if she got intimidated by him in some way, his ongoing creative force when her story was so dependent on Dave Stewart to save the day?

And then her mother passed away and up came a whole new sense of bitterness that hadn't necessarily been seen before.

The more the universe seemed to push them in the direction of working together, it's as if she went out of her way to find a way out of it. For reasons, we'll never know.

Look back to the DR documentary where they are clearly saying: Oh my Stevie, these demos are great!! You worked!! Wow!!! :lol: Now let's take these spirit catchers from you and put them over here by the talking fish.

Stevie craves recognition for her creative works and because of how the system of the Mac works, Lindsey gets partial credit because of his creative genius and production work. What she fails to understand is that people do recognize her lyrical genius apart from Lindsey's contributions to the work. They are their own Lennon / McCartney. The lyrical work she produces is beautiful, and the small genius touches that Lindsey lends to the production of her work is untouchable. Dave, Waddy, Mike... they all add their own little touches and accomplish cool things with her art, but none match what Lindsey did with her songs. And given their history of never getting along all that well for that long, I think that is what pisses her off most. She is forever tethered to a man she cannot stand half the time. Add that touch of jealousy that he settled down, married, had kids and that wasn't in the cards for her, I am sure that rubs her the wrong way as well.

Now, outside of band politics, they have to continue to hold the banners and I understand that while some may not like it. John likes to sail on his boat, be the family man and jam when needed. Christine was stuffed in her English house way too long and enjoys being active no matter who its with. Mick is just a money hungry man that will say anything to line his pockets (brilliant drummer, but never liked him as a person). Who knows, we have heard this song and dance before in the 80s and 90s from all parties. "We're done," "Never going back," "I cannot see myself rejoining the band, ever." Will they never reform as the 5-piece we know and love? Because of Stevie, and the lawsuit, probably not... But knowing these people, knowing this band, I would never fully say its out of the question.

Absolutely right. I used to second-guess them all the time, but over and over I’d get proved wrong after they did something out of left field. I remember saying that there was no way in hell they ever tried performing “That’s Enough for Me” on the 1980 tour UNTIL a few years later I heard a recording from one of the Wembley shows. I was stunned. And I would have told you twenty years ago that they would never again pull out “Sisters of the Moon” or “Storms” onstage — and then they did! You can’t second-guess the Fleetwood Macs. Something can seem highly improbable — and happen anyway.

Lindsey and Stevie could go out next year on a Buckingham Nicks tour. It would shock me but I’m not going to put my money on its not happening, ever.

Did LB in fact perform at each of her parents' funerals?? I had not heard this before.

He did participate in her Heart Association benefits even when they weren't in the band together.

I agree, anything could happen. I think what's really different this time is they've disgusted so many fans, I don't even think they would show up to buy a ticket.

Plus, they've simply run out of time for five-year grudges to work themselves out. They don't have a decade to let the dust settle.

Control of the band? That was the actual reason? It sounds really an excuse to me. Or a consequence instead of a cause. I mean, there was always the suspect that since Bella Donna she seemed to have more interest in her solo career than in being in the band. Mirage tour was very short, among her two solo albums. She arrived just at the end of the Tango recording sessions (yes, after rehab, but anyway I think she prioritized more her solo career). Did she want to take control of the album recording sessions? Of the past tours? I never heard that.

And all of the sudden she wants to take control of Fleetwood Mac? I don't get it. I still think there were more things that we don't know. And I don't mean she is innocent. I just think that's not the whole or main reason.

Excuse me??? Errr.. what's the name of that singer-songwriter... who wrote a song that became #4 (#5 in UK) and another song #14 (#4 in UK, #1 in Peru and Belgium) and perform another song that really rocked during the Tango Tour and her (with LB) tour in 2017?? mmm.. Christine McVie? Yes, it was Christine McVie. Three songs from TITN became singles.

And i read Buckingham in just 3 of the 12 songs in the album. Plus 4 songs where he is cowriter (3 of those with Christine, were those songs to be included in his unreleased solo work?).

Probably meant songs offered up during the sessions of the album, not necessarily what actually made the final tracklisting.

Let me summarize it for you: $he wanted him out because $he is full of hate and jealousy. So, $he took control of the band with her $tarpower to oust him. We can speculate all we want for reasons. But, the truth is finally coming out. It wasn't due to touring or business conflicts, the lies that $he originally $pewed. It was because $he wanted to be happy with her entourage (people $he can control) Happy calling the $hots.

Mick, John, Christine would have been more than happy touring w/ Lindsey again. $tevie used her starpower to hold a gun to their head.

Perfectly spelled out.

I’m actually mildly amused that people who have been following this band for decades and researched them so much still don’t get their dynamic. General public? Sure. But people who followed this band forever I would expect to understand the dynamic behind the scenes. Fight for power and control. Who’s the boss?

"I'm not the boss of this band." = "I'm totally the boss of this band.":shocked:

A friend of mine wrote this on Facebook. It could be a mistake or like you said they were referencing what he offered initially.

Not just that but most hard core fans who know more to the bands history then the casual fans yet still play the ignorance game with respect to the bands history. They quote from discredited tell all's and such when they KNOW it is BS. I truly think some of them have elevated her to some god like figure and they don't want to admit she is a flawed person and for once she might be in the wrong here. As a friend said I wouldn't want these people on a jury.

What does it say about those hard core Stevie fans when they won't even believe stuff that comes directly from the horses mouth whether it is hers or Micks? Or when a trashy tabloid tell all that any year would have been widely dismissed is now seen as the gospel truth.

Lindsey during the tango sessions:
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Mick during the tango sessions:
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Stevie during the tango sessions:
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O.M.G. That is f*****g HILARIOUS! :lol: :thumbsup:

I was going to say Not my case, but... isn't she that celtic moon goddess born at the first moon rise and known as the Divine Queen of Faeries? Goddess of fertility, rebirth, wisdom, magick, transformation, beauty, artistic inspiration and poetry???

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