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Villavic 01-14-2013 07:21 PM

Your favorite album track order
 
I think we have talked about good songs order but not in a poll. What is your favorite track order in an album, the best organized..

I'm including live albums but not greatest hits, all from the Rumours lineup except SYW

cantgoback 01-14-2013 07:30 PM

Rumours definitely, all the stories in the songs, they're all good but rumours just shines brighter.

WildHearted 01-14-2013 08:28 PM

Rumours, in it's original format at least.

It's weird on CD because it goes from Songbird to The Chain and it feels kind of disconnected. But on vinyl where you have to flip to the other side, it totally works.

FierySequences 01-14-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1072517)
Rumours, in it's original format at least.

It's weird on CD because it goes from Songbird to The Chain and it feels kind of disconnected. But on vinyl where you have to flip to the other side, it totally works.

This is perhaps the only thread I will ever vote for Rumours.

Interestingly enough....somewhere in the early 90's I had bought a double cassette with Rumours and FM (75) combined.
The track listing had IDWK and SHN reversed and I thought this was the original running order. It actually worked (if one was none the wiser) I think it still works, either way.

Villavic 01-14-2013 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FierySequences (Post 1072520)
Interestingly enough....somewhere in the early 90's I had bought a double cassette with Rumours and FM (75) combined.
The track listing had IDWK and SHN reversed and I thought this was the original running order. It actually worked (if one was none the wiser) I think it still works, either way.

I bought the combined cassette in 1988 but the track listing is correct. Weird to hear there was a release with a mistaken order.

FierySequences 01-14-2013 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1072525)
I bought the combined cassette in 1988 but the track listing is correct. Weird to hear there was a release with a mistaken order.

hmm, now that you mention it...it may not have been the dbl album I bought. But I know at some point I had a version with IDWK as the lead track.

will have to look to see if I still have it, fingers crossed it is a collector's item:blob2: (but I doubt it)

louielouie2000 01-14-2013 10:30 PM

I am probably the only one in the world who thinks the Rumours sequencing isn't so great. I realize it was sequenced as an LP with 2 sides, and that's why it doesn't transfer to the digital age so well. That being said, Songbird being in the middle of the album (but on the end of an LP side) just crashes the momentum and puts me to sleep. It should have been the song to close out Rumours.

I adore the quirky tracking order of Tusk, but the stark transition from Sara to What Makes You Think You're The One just kills it for me. It's too violent, and crashes the dreamy revery Sara puts you into.

The White Album ('75) is perfectly sequenced. But the whole package is almost too perfect to the point of being middle of the road & dull. There's no grit.

Lindsey's material on Mirage is too subpar to make the cut.

Say You Will has a glut of material for it to win.

My ideal tracking order for the Rumours era goes to Tango. The flow is great, the energy is kept up, rockers are paired with the more contemplative songs flawlessly, and the album begins & ends perfectly. There is a continuity between the 3 songwriters that isn't really present on any of the other Rumours albums, yet each artist shines individually. When I go on road trips with friends, Tango is usually the only Mac album I bring along for the drive, and that's because it's sequenced so well.

MikeInNV 01-14-2013 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1072531)
I am probably the only one in the world who thinks the Rumours sequencing isn't so great. I realize it was sequenced as an LP with 2 sides, and that's why it doesn't transfer to the digital age so well. That being said, Songbird being in the middle of the album (but on the end of an LP side) just crashes the momentum and puts me to sleep. It should have been the song to close out Rumours.

I adore the quirky tracking order of Tusk, but the stark transition from Sara to What Makes You Think You're The One just kills it for me. It's too violent, and crashes the dreamy revery Sara puts you into.

While I get what you're saying about Songbird (it does seem like an album-closing type of song), I just can't imagine Rumours ending with anything other than GDW which, in a completely different way, is also a perfect closer.

The transition from Sara to WMYTYTO is also less of a problem when you're flipping over a vinyl record, but even with that said I don't think it's a very well-sequenced album. I don't like "Over and Over" as an opener, and I don't like how long you wait for the next Christine song.

TrueFaith77 01-14-2013 11:52 PM

Listening to Tusk is like surfing waves of bliss.

Villavic 01-15-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 1072534)
Listening to Tusk is like surfing waves of bliss.

When I listen Rumours is like driving along the shore watching the sunset...

On Ice 01-15-2013 08:30 AM

I'm voting for Rumours as the sequencing is part of what makes the album a full listen, even for non-fans. I've heard it back in the day played in its entirety at parties and it works. I can't imagine it in any different order. Tusk is also great but I agree with a previous poster that we have to wait to long to hear Christine again after Think About Me. Tango is also sequenced well but Stevie is so out of her groove that it clunks at her 3 meagre tracks.

vivfox 01-15-2013 11:17 AM

I wanted to vote for side four of Tusk but the title track destroys the lullaby feelings for me. I love the song Tusk but wish that spot was reserved for Brown Eyes.

I voted for the white album because every song flows perfectly into the next without making me want to skip a song.

holidayroad 01-15-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FierySequences (Post 1072527)
hmm, now that you mention it...it may not have been the dbl album I bought. But I know at some point I had a version with IDWK as the lead track.

will have to look to see if I still have it, fingers crossed it is a collector's item:blob2: (but I doubt it)

You are not mistaken. I have a cassette with White album and Rumours. I have also have one of just Rumours. Both cassettes have IDWTK as the lead song in Rumours and have SHN after You Make Loving Fun.

vivfox 01-15-2013 11:23 AM

I never understood why Lindsey didn't have any of his songs on side 2 of Rumours.

KarmaContestant 01-15-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1072531)
My ideal tracking order for the Rumours era goes to Tango. The flow is great, the energy is kept up, rockers are paired with the more contemplative songs flawlessly, and the album begins & ends perfectly. There is a continuity between the 3 songwriters that isn't really present on any of the other Rumours albums, yet each artist shines individually. When I go on road trips with friends, Tango is usually the only Mac album I bring along for the drive, and that's because it's sequenced so well.

Birds of a feather... :laugh:

But really, I picked Tango as well. It didn't even require any thought. It's perfect in it's sequence - and I don't feel any of the other albums are.

michelej1 01-15-2013 01:24 PM

Just speaking for vinyl, I was always impressed with the Mirage sequencing and I loved the 2 closing songs. They left me in a tranquil mood.

Michele

KindOfWoman90 01-15-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1072555)

I voted for the white album because every song flows perfectly into the next without making me want to skip a song.

^^ That is why I voted for the white album as well. Sometimes I'm not in the mood to listen to say Songbird or some of the more raucous songs on Tusk - But, I always have the white album CD in my car.

I think most of their album song orders are well thought out. It's not so much the order that kills it at times. I think it has more to do with weak songs.

Artemis 01-15-2013 06:50 PM

I'm torn between the white album and Rumours.

For the White Album, Blue Letter to World Turning is an incredibly strong showcase of tracks, and the duds on the album aren't as bad as the downright stinkers found on Tango courtesy of Stevie.

Rumours is perfectly sequenced, but I sometimes think Never Going Back again - Don't Stop doesn't flow as well as the rest, although this is probably my all-consuming hatred for the latter song speaking. I love Silver Springs inbetween Songbird and The Chain though.

TerraRhiannon 01-16-2013 06:24 PM

The Dance, without a doubt. Espeically they have the last three or four songs. The energy at the end is phenomenal, I only just wish they would have had and ended the CD with Songbird. Same way I wish Rumours ended with Songbird. I'm never in the mood to listen to Songbird when it comes on when I'm listening to the Rumours CD, so it usually gets skipped over. Beautiful song, or not.

SpyNote 01-16-2013 08:29 PM

I think all of the albums are sequenced pretty well. Didn't Stevie sequence most of them?

TerraRhiannon 01-16-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SpyNote (Post 1072702)
I think all of the albums are sequenced pretty well. Didn't Stevie sequence most of them?

Not Rumours.. I think Ken did that, according to his book, didn't he? I can't quite remember and I can't flip through it cause I only have it as an ebook on my Kobo.

michelej1 01-16-2013 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TerraRhiannon (Post 1072712)
Not Rumours.. I think Ken did that, according to his book, didn't he? I can't quite remember and I can't flip through it cause I only have it as an ebook on my Kobo.

Ken said Judy did it. Stevie doesn't say that.

Michele

aleuzzi 01-17-2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1072517)
Rumours, in it's original format at least.

It's weird on CD because it goes from Songbird to The Chain and it feels kind of disconnected. But on vinyl where you have to flip to the other side, it totally works.

Totally agree. And if cds were around in 77 the sequencing would have been different.

aleuzzi 01-17-2013 12:31 PM

The sequence of tracks on Tusk is often disturbing, but then that was probably the point. You can listen to those first five tracks and get a pretty good idea of the range of the album. As much as I would have chosen a different opener, it was clever to begin with Over and Over--the apotheosis of California easy-listening pop--and then move to "The Ledge," which is just outright bizarre. "Think About Me," which follows, seems to synthesize the approaches to both of the previous songs--a poppy melody and vocal underpinned by crunching, rowdy guitars and spirited drum work.

Still, I would have loved to see the song "Tusk" open the record.

MacShadowsBall 01-22-2013 06:14 PM

Perhaps it's a generational thing, but I've never put much stock in album sequencing. For live shows/concerts, it's more important. :cool:

chiliD 01-22-2013 06:36 PM

I think the '75-87 era just sucked at album sequencing. Rumours is about the closest to "just ok"; and the 1975 album is barely passable. The rest need some serious rethinking.

SisterNightroad 09-29-2017 03:58 PM

The Dying Art of The Album

NPR recently released its list of 150 greatest albums made by women. Among the top twenty are Fleetwood Mac's Rumours and Patti Smith's Horses, with Blue (Joni Mitchell) sitting at the number one spot. One pop, one distinctly punk, one a folk masterpiece peppered with the tiniest hint of the experimental jazz sound its creator would develop over time. The femininity of the artists is not, however, the only thoroughfare between the albums on this list. Over half the albums chosen by NPR were released between 1970 and 1989. In the span of two decades – not a notably long time when you consider how long it takes to make an album from inception to final mastered piece – the majority of long-lasting, critically acclaimed albums were made.

One of the things I desperately miss about an album are the slow-burners. Not everything is supposed to be a hit single and I quite honestly, for much of my life, have measured an artists talent by the way they are able to fill up the negative space on an album. Take Rumours. How the hell are you supposed to follow "Dreams"? How does one get from "Go Your Own Way" to "The Chain"? Fleetwood's answer is simple: Christine McVie's melodically and lyrically stunning "Songbird". It's not a hit, and it doesn't have to be. McVie was so often dwarfed by the ethereal fairy-child that was Stevie Nicks circa 1977, all gypsy lace, bell sleeves and otherworldly growl. But on "Songbird", McVie is anything but forgotten; the heartbreaking track won't allow it. When I asked Ailbhe whether she felt pressure to make every single release a "banger" she said:

There is pressure to make everything a banger, but I think that's a longstanding pressure on anyone who starts to do well. You have to keep upping the game. There are songs I have [as an artist] that I just am not going to invest in because they aren't 'single material'.


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