MOJO May 2019 - FM issue
https://www.greatmagazines.co.uk/moj.../mojo-may-2019 MOJO 306 – May 2019: Fleetwood Mac Heralding their hotly anticipated homecoming shows, MOJO embraces all of Fleetwood Mac’s stellar phases, celebrating their 50 Greatest Songs while interrogating Mick and Christine about their latest incarnation... and why Lindsey had to go. many had asked them on twitter whether there will be anything beyond the ole "we were not happy" bs, and they said there will be much more. we'll see, not holding my hopes up, probably the same ole bs from Mick and Christine as in their other recent interviews touting UK shows of the "happy happy new band". |
And this is why I must go ...
Is this going to be when they start trashing him? That's fine, but it will reveal everything they said about it being because of him not wanting to tour as the lie that it was. I still wish you gone. |
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there's also this line / teaser - COVER STORY: FLEETWOOD MAC The 50 Greatest Songs from every incarnation of The Band That Refused To Die, from heart-rending blues to solid gold pop. Plus: their latest unbelievable chapter told with exclusive new interviews. “It was a really bad time,” admits Christine McVie. https://www.mojo4music.com/articles/...YBMM7rw-vAA_4I |
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But Chris and Mick now constantly talking about how unhappy they were and what a “bad time” it was has me wondering if maybe there was more to it. They could easily refuse to talk about the subject, keep it out of interviews like Stevie’s been doing, or just give vague “It’s a difficult situation and this was all we could do to continue touring” answers. That’s what they would be doing if they truly liked LB, wanted him in the band, and agreed to this under duress. But instead, they’re flat out saying things that make him look bad. Like that they were all unhappy and that it was a bad time. That’s not the behavior of innocent bystanders who didn’t want this to happen. It’s becoming more apparent to me that perhaps they aren’t completely full of sh*t and maybe there was something LB was doing that had multiple band mates annoyed - or at least just not loving him enough to fight for him. Idk, just a thought. |
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i'm gonna withhold my judgement on Christine till i read the interview. if she throws Lindsey under the bus than she's just as bad as the rest of them. saying she's happy happy happy with Lindsey in 2017 and than just as happy happy happy after Stevie and Mick throw him out in 2018/19 is kinda kooky, but i guess you are promoting your current tours in both cases. we were all giving Christine benefit of the doubt because: 1) she insisted in CBS interview she didn't know about Lindsey ouster 2) she repeated the same in Rolling Stone audio interview and said she was in the UK when they told her and that when she left for the UK everything was fine and dandy 3) she sent that email to Lindsey saying she misses him and she had nothing to do with the ouster. sounds like Christine wants to have her cake and eat it too. now Mick and Stevie have been on sh*t-on-Lindsey spree since april 2018 and never stopped, providing a number of contradicting excuses for what they did, so anything Mick says has no meaning at this point. you can be unhappy or annoyed with someone you [barely] work with (although recording of BuckVie video seems to mightily contradict that unhappiness claim). that doesn't mean you should throw them out of the band of equals, where he has done huge stuff for that band's success over decades and where everyone had been annoying for 50 years, at the very end of the road as they are about to retire. the only band out there that still had their classic lineup intact. and because that was done without just cause, they paid up that lawsuit as fast as they could (after their dramatic "we will see you in court! we dispute everything he says!"). |
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i don't really know how situation can get worse for fans. right now there are tons of ex Stevie and Fleetwood Mac hardcore fans who have been following them for decades who cannot even stand to listen to the music that has been the soundtrack of their lives. they are also not talking to tons of other Stevie fans who are staunchly standing by her now, many claiming she's an angel who can do no wrong and has finally got rid of her lifetime nemesis. and in some cases those fans have been friends for years, but now those friendships are broken. just look around here, all the riffs between people and endless name calling. people want to know what happened, the good and the bad and the ugly. and apparently, Lindsey wants to know what happened too, who was unhappy and why. and why they didn't talk to him and tell him that, and try to work it out. as normal people would. |
at least they picked a cover photo where Stevie looks like total sh$t:eek:
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I could understand why Stevie, Mick, and Azoff became unhappy with Lindsey. It’s also understandable how being around a legendarily toxic relationship would make bystanders like Christine unhappy. |
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Lindsey didn't change from 2017 to 2018. and certainly not from Nov 2017 to Jan 2018. that's a month, not a year. he didn't change for years, probably decades. he's been way mellower and nicer than in their heyday, so how him changing for the better is suddenly a problem? yes being around toxic relationship is draining. Christine knew what she was coming back to. they all knew and lived with it for decades. Christine mentioned back in 2017 interviews how they all get along great, except Lindsey and Stevie. she also mentioned how much nicer to work with Lindsey is now as opposed to back in the heyday when he was asocial and razor focused on work. so what did change? Stevie gained more power. she became very commercially successful again. that's what changed. she felt she had enough power to pull the ouster. |
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many of us wished it went to court. and reading your remarks just now, i again wish it did. :] |
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That is really really twisted. That is not a reason to end a friendship..Over a band. |
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I was clearly referring to the year or so between the end of the LBCM sessions and Lindsey’s firing, and was using the two or so months between the end of the LBCM tour and Lindsey’s firing as an example of how quickly attitudes can change. And I never said Lindsey changed, just that things/perspectives can change. |
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Does she mean it was a bad time between Stevie and Lindsey??? Maybe it wasn't the whole band having probs with LB but the tension, bickering, bs between those two, which would of course impact everyone else.... I don't want to be reaching too hard but I also think that the band will be under strict orders from The Queen to not make honest statements that SHE was the only one with probs with LB. So it's not dishonest for them to say they were unhappy but they just are fudging language to not say that the reason THEY were unhappy was because SN was unhappy with LB. Can't rock her boat or mess with her narrative. |
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I don’t see myself crying into my pillow, brokenly gasping, “I wish I didn’t know now what I didn’t know then!” Plus, if Lindsey has some big secret to hide, I think he would have just gone home and shut up for fear of what the others might reveal. Instead he was running around being more visible, forthright and open. |
If they were opting to go to a concerted effort
to trash Lindsey with additional details, you'd think if they had any class they'd stop this nonsense after his health issue. But no. Whether what they have to say is true or not, it shows what type people these 4 are. |
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You’d think they would move on and enjoy their dreamy tour without annoying Lindsey. But no, they have to go further and trash him at every opportunity they have. Trash him and minimize his legacy and his contributions to the band. And to think some people still think they’re the greatest band in the world. That says a lot about yourself. No wonder friendships were broken. |
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Like her Forgiveness says, Christine was:
Trapped In the middle of a lousy love affair |
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Why is this getting weirder and weirder?
Turning on each other over Fleetwood Mac? It doesn't involve any of us fans. I understand people being disappointed, or upset. But this is becoming as serious to people as a religious or political argument. It's kind of bizarre. Why let it affect your lives? |
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And to anyone who's primarily a $tevie fan, we don't expect you to get it. Go worship in the barnyard. And the Present Band Forum is where you should be, if you want to discuss the PRESENT band. Thank you, drive thru... |
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So I'm thinking the band WERE unhappy because the Americans were acting like spoiled hateful brats. What's so sad is that the Brits decided to honor the wishes of one of those brats over the other out of pure greed. Would I have been happy had Stevie left instead of Lindsey? Not especially but truthfully I would not have been outright disgusted. She could go one and do her thing while the remaining four made new music. That, for me, as always made the difference. Both LB and SN are insufferably self-centered in different ways but only LB is open and urging of fresh creativity and musical growth. So, I can look past his often aloof media personality. |
I think these forms are becoming a very morbidly fascinating place to visit. So interesting to see middle-aged to past middle-aged people making this entire situation this serious . Both team Lindsay and team Stevie fans take obsession to a brand new level of obsession. I've listened to this band for 40 years, but frankly, if what's going on between Lindsey Stevie the Mac is that important to anybody then they must not have any real problems. Good for you 👍.
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Of course I'm back. I would never completely walk away from a fascinating car wreck. All of this is very entertaining.
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I'm not a primary fan of Lindsey Stevie or the mack. I like it all. but both teams like I said before you need to get a life it's not that important
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But of course Brits had to think with their bank accounts instead of with their hearts and minds. And talents. |
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