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mitzo 08-22-2018 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1234662)
The answer is: No one knows. I just watched Lindsey's behind the music that was filmed right after Out of the Cradle tour. That album had the best reviews with some saying it was one of the best albums EVER. Clearly that album could have had several radio hits. Lindsey admitted himself that he found it frustrating that his creative hit production that worked so well with the Mac did not work in his solo career. Out of the cradle and the tour were not successful which really hurt Lindsey and he openly admitted that. Everyone knows who Stevie Nicks is even before she went solo. Not many know who Lindsey is. He does have great songs that could have been hits but I don't think there is an explanation why his solo career is not commercially successful.
But its not just Lindsey. Same situation with the Go-Gos. Belinda was the least talented while Jane Wiedlin wrote most of the songs and music of all the hits of the Go Gos. Belinda had a more successful solo career than even the Go Gos. Jane opened stated how frustrated she was that her solo career went nowhere even though she was the magic behind all of the Go Go's success.
There is no answer to this question. IMHO the lack of success as a solo artist is why Lindsey went back to the band in 1997 and stayed there. If he had a successful solo career, I don't think he would have went back.

He did take over several FM albums, namely TITN and SYW, loading them with his solo things that wouldn't sell otherwise. Even The Dance is quite Lindsey solo-ish in parts. And Buck McVie is about half Lindsey solo. He seems to like producing everything for FM and packing their albums with solo work.


Very little of what he has done has had any commercial success at all, really, except the girls' songs which he produced. Something about his writing, his singing, his whole persona on record and on stage is, well, off-putting.

I remember well listening to TITN with friends and seeing faces pucker when Lindsey's songs came on.

jeets2000 08-22-2018 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1234665)
Very little of what he has done has had any commercial success at all, really, except the girls' songs which he produced.

He had more top 10 hits in Fleetwood Mac than Stevie did? :shrug:

mitzo 08-22-2018 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jeets2000 (Post 1234667)
He had more top 10 hits in Fleetwood Mac than Stevie did? :shrug:

if you look at the top 25 he fares poorly behind Chris and Stevie. and let's not discuss his solo career.

jeets2000 08-22-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1234668)
if you look at the top 25 he fares poorly behind Chris and Stevie. and let's not discuss his solo career.

Oh, for sure. Frankly, Christine obliterates them both. I just was pushing back on your characterization that little of Lindsey's work had "any commercial success at all" when a look at the charts shows that's pretty clearly not true.

mitzo 08-22-2018 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jeets2000 (Post 1234670)
Oh, for sure. Frankly, Christine obliterates them both. I just was pushing back on your characterization that little of Lindsey's work had "any commercial success at all" when a look at the charts shows that's pretty clearly not true.

oK then, almost no commercial success at all.

David 08-23-2018 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1234665)
Very little of what he has done has had any commercial success at all, really, except the girls' songs which he produced.

But that is his work. He's the orchestrator and arranger of many, many hit songs ó by other writers. He has always put most of his creative energy into it. He used to say often how his main role in the band wasn't as a singer or a writer but as an arranger and orchestrator. I think that's his greatest career prestige, that and guitar playing.

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Something about his writing, his singing, his whole persona on record and on stage is, well, off-putting.
Oh, he's had his moments on record and especially onstage where everything came together quite nicely, and the crowd loved him. He's not everyone's cup of tea (and apparently not yours), but he's a boutique favorite, as he has said.

Jondalar 08-23-2018 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1234665)
He did take over several FM albums, namely TITN and SYW, loading them with his solo things that wouldn't sell otherwise. Even The Dance is quite Lindsey solo-ish in parts. And Buck McVie is about half Lindsey solo. He seems to like producing everything for FM and packing their albums with solo work.


Very little of what he has done has had any commercial success at all, really, except the girls' songs which he produced. Something about his writing, his singing, his whole persona on record and on stage is, well, off-putting.

I remember well listening to TITN with friends and seeing faces pucker when Lindsey's songs came on.

Stevie didnít even want to contribute to TITN. The songs she wrote sucked. Her only hit was written by someone else. Most of the she contributed to SYW were rejects. He took over because he had too. She did not put her best foot forward.

mitzo 08-23-2018 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1234715)
Stevie didnít even want to contribute to TITN. The songs she wrote sucked. Her only hit was written by someone else. Most of the she contributed to SYW were rejects. He took over because he had too. She did not put her best foot forward.

I cannot compare Stevie's SYW songs with his, it is in many ways her best solo album of nine songs. His production was amazing. His actual songs on SYW? Oh dear...

Jondalar 08-23-2018 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1234717)
I cannot compare Stevie's SYW songs with his, it is in many ways her best solo album of nine songs. His production was amazing. His actual songs on SYW? Oh dear...

His songs were stellar, not hers.

Artemis 08-23-2018 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1234720)
His songs were stellar, not hers.

Respectful gotta disagree with you there, I think Stevie's songs on SYW are fantastic.

Illume, Thrown Down, Running Through The Garden, Everybody Finds Out and Destiny Rules are five excellent songs from Stevie. I even think Say You Will, Silver Girl and Goodbye Baby have their charm as well. The only songs from Lindsey I like on SYW are Miranda, Bleed to Love Her and Steal Your Heart Away.

mitzo 08-24-2018 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Artemis (Post 1234722)
Respectful gotta disagree with you there, I think Stevie's songs on SYW are fantastic.

Illume, Thrown Down, Running Through The Garden, Everybody Finds Out and Destiny Rules are five excellent songs from Stevie. I even think Say You Will, Silver Girl and Goodbye Baby have their charm as well. The only songs from Lindsey I like on SYW are Miranda, Bleed to Love Her and Steal Your Heart Away.

Ditto, and Miranda grates after two listens as well. Stevie's songs on SYW shine brighter than most of her solo work, and with Lindsey's complex production they never fail to intrigue even after 15 years.

HoursAndHours 08-24-2018 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Artemis (Post 1234722)
Illume, Thrown Down, Running Through The Garden, Everybody Finds Out and Destiny Rules are five excellent songs from Stevie. I even think Say You Will, Silver Girl and Goodbye Baby have their charm as well. The only songs from Lindsey I like on SYW are Miranda, Bleed to Love Her and Steal Your Heart Away.

I know it's not the angry version or whatever, but Smile at You is one of my favorite Fleetwood Mac songs ever. I put all of her SYW songs, along with Not Make Believe at the end and You Can't Fix This at the beginning, together to make Stevie's "lost album."

I'll certainly listen to Lindsey's songs too, but I love my Stevie Nicks Say You Will "album." It's as special to me as her actual records.

kak125 08-24-2018 01:17 PM

Saw this on the Stevie Nicks Daily fb page.


jkmaletic 08-24-2018 01:58 PM

I just can't wait to see Stevie "acting" again. :laugh: (And I say that with love)
Maybe she'll be a little better this time. In defense of last time, she did say she had no idea she'd be doing all that dialog until she showed up. She should be better prepared at least this time. Hopefully asked for a script to be sent ahead of time.

Jamie

jwd 08-24-2018 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bandon (Post 1234527)
That was a joke dude or dudess...:nod:

Over my head I guess. :laugh: Who is Coco Puffington? My memory fails me. Is dudess a word? Let's just say I'm a man.


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