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New studio EP as a compromise - thoughts?
No, Fleetwood Mac are not releasing another EP at this stage. But should they? Stevie could contribute Space Needle or Julia or another vault song if she can't be bothered to write something new.
And Lindsey has some songs in the can, slated for a solo release, but he could give two of them to Fleetwood Mac. I'd see it like this: 1. Lindsey new song 2. Christine new song 3. Stevie new song/vault song 4. Lindsey new song Could be a happy compromise with Stevie to give the fans new music without having to spend a year in the studio with her supposed bestie and ex-boyfriend. Thoughts? Just for fun: |
No offense, but with 3 writers, I think an EP is a dumb idea.
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If Stevie says she wont do a new album with the Mac, why would she suddenly agree to an EP? She does not like studio time with Lindsey and says music does not sell. Not sure she would want to be a part of this.
Personally I would not want to see it either. What a shame the last effort by the group to be an EP. |
I'd prefer another LB/CM album.
Or a FULL FM album. No reason these three songwriters should half ass it at this point. |
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Their Legacy demands a final double album. I will take anything. It's such a crucial time now, here at the end of the band, to go out on a high note with dignity. So confused why it's not happening.
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In the land of never, never... Legacy ..is a great title for their last Mac5 album. |
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I think most FM fans would love one more album, but Stevie clearly doesn't want to record with Lindsay anymore, so it won't happen. Even though that thought disappoints me, in a way I'm ok with it, too. I pretty much hated the new songs the band performed for the Dance album- Temporary One and Sweet Girl were bad, although My Little Demon and Bleed to Love Her were better, but still sounded like filler to me. Besides, if the FM 2018 tour is really their last one, I'd rather hear the songs they know we love vs forgettable new ones. While I'm sure there are some die-hard fans who would rather hear them perform Sweet Girl and Temporary One and Bleed to Love Her over Landslide and Little Lies and Go Your Own Way because they're sick of them, most of the concert attendees would revolt!
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If they do a standard 10-12 song album, Stevie's contribution could be the three songs I included in my post or similar - but Space Needle, Julia and Castaway are all strong songs...Space Needle could be shorter and tighter but is still strong.
So why isn't this happening? Would Ms Nicks really rather release Songs from the Vault 2 and extend the 24 Karat Gold Tour into 2019 after touring with the Mac? If so, that is a sad state of affairs. Most casual fans are not familiar with Space Needle and other old demos. They would consider it new music. And other more diehard fans might even be happy to have perfected, finished versions of their favourite unreleased tracks. Stevie carried on after Say You Will about not wanting to tour or record another album unless Christine came back. Maybe she said this because she thought it would never happen so she was effectively saying in her mind that there will NEVER be a new Fleetwood Mac album on her say so. Yes? The charade has gone on far too long. Red Sun by Fleetwood Mac is the final swansong album by this band. The red sun has kissed the sea. It has set. Their recording career is over. |
With the return of Christine, the 50th anniversary, and the inevitable end of the band before too long, I would take anything, anything as a final recorded statement by the band. I'm prepared to take Stevie's assertions that she doesn't write that much these days at face value. So I'm prepared to set my own bar of what could happen fairly low and have accepted that a full album is 95% unlikely to happen.
It would be a bit of a fag-end to a recording oeuvre but a five or six song EP would be fine by me, even if it had just one or two new songs from each of Christine and Lindsey, a couple of re-worked Buckingam McVie tracks with some added layered Stevie vocals (Carnival Begin, On with the show, Love is here to stay or Red Sun would work well) to fill it out, and a new recording of one of Stevie's songs that had never made it to an album, maybe Joan of Arc. Others more familiar with her demos might be able to suggest a better alternative. It's just so sad that we've come to this point in this way. Ultimately we don't own these people and each have their own plough to furrow so directing any anger at one particular individual is not going to achieve much besides venting personal disappointment. |
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All a thread like this is going to do is start even MORE back and forth arguments about how bad a person Stevie is or isn't
Of course they aren't going to do an EP if she won't do an album. |
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His response was diplomatic-he thanked me for wanting that amount of music then explained how difficult it is to get everyone to work on a project that big for that long. |
I just think we should be greatful all 5 fireflies are still alive and working still. solo. Buckvie. And as a final farewell tour of the 5 together.
Would a final album be great? YES! Of course. But we already know the odds of that happening. An EP for sure is not even in the cards if an album isn't happening. I just grow tired of the constant bickering of members of the board and people being called out on a regular basis for posting. There is far more drama on the board than between the members of the band. And I am certain somebody is gonna "call me out" for even posting this reply. |
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From a British English perspective:
Fag End 1.1 The last part of something, especially when regarded as less important or interesting. ‘the fag end of the Indian cricket season’ see https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fag_end Oeuvre can mean body of work, so I think what I intended to say is clear. |
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I wish you Brits would learn to speak English.:lol:
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[QUOTEI wish you Brits would learn to speak English.[/QUOTE]
Homer, hahaha |
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[QUOTEEasily the worst thing that ever happened to Fleetwood Mac. With the exception of Bob Welch.][/QUOTE]
I think Bob Welch deserves more credit than that. "Sentimental Lady" is a beautiful song, especially the solo version with Christine featured on back-up vocals. And "Ebony Eyes" is pure classic rock. |
I'd be happy with a parting single as long as it is the 5 fireflies. I won't expect more than a cash grab tour though.
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"Sentimental Lady" is a beautiful song, especially the solo version with Christine featured on back-up vocals. And "Ebony Eyes" is pure classic rock.[/QUOTE] I love Bob Welch! |
Apologies in advance if this gets rambly or whatever, bUT:
I was at the Classic a few weeks ago, and one of my favorite music critics Bob Lefsetz wrote an awesome review of the performance. Presciently he writes: Quote:
If I'm being honest, I don't think we can expect new music. Buckingham McVie is a gorgeous body of work, and if it ends there, I think that they as well as Stevie, would be content. No need to force something that isn't organic as Liddy would say. These are five human beings, seasoned musicians, with families and more of their lives behind them than ahead. Our fireflies have been through hell and back, and I swear there were times after SYW, and then after Unleashed tour that I thought that was the end. I can't help but be thankful that they've made it this far, still willing to let us experience this magnificent band. There will never be anything again like Fleetwood Mac. They've more than earned their right to fade in whatever way they choose, with all of us supportive as ever, making sure their legacy lives on as the music lives on. One day I'll get to tell my children I was alive when Fleetwood Mac was making music and that alone is freaking awesome. THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD ACTUALLY DIE IF THERE WAS A NEW ALBUM. VAULT SONGS?! NEW SONGS?! I'LL LOVE IT |
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I work with a lady who is a Doors fanatic. We've had zillions of conversations about how she never got to see Jim Morrison live. He's dead so buying anything autographed is financially impossible. I can't tell you how my heart breaks for her. Her family refers to me as the "FM lady at work". Sometimes I feel bad talking about BuckVie or the September Stevie show at Ravinia. I totally understand how you broke down at the show. Every time I see some form of FM I wonder if it will be my last. |
We are 15 years since the last compilation "The Very Best Of Fleetwood Mac" released in 2002, so we are likely overdue another 'Greatest Hits Album' cash grab, expect another greatest hit package next year to tie into the tour, maybe with a few new songs or never-before-released outtakes that are still be in the vaults
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I don't think we'll see another greatest hits album next year. The label seems focused on releasing the Expanded or Deluxe Editions first, and the White Album still needs the treatment, and will probably get it in 2018.
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An EP has half a** written all over it. I'd rather The Mac doing nothing at all than putting out a lazy attempt at an EP.
A full fledged album with a solid producer like Mitchell Froom or Rick Rubin could be the artistic statement/swan song that this dinosaur rock act has been needing. If The Mac want to truly cement their place in music history, they need to come out with a critically acclaimed album in the twilight of their career. Think: Johnny Cash-American IV/The Man Comes Around Bob Dylan-Time Out Of Mind Paul Simon-Graceland Bruce Springsteen-Magic or Wrecking Ball There are numerous artists who've recorded groundbreaking, artistic, multi-layered and critically acclaimed albums LATE in their career. These 5 musicians are certainly talented enough to do just that. But, they must put their egos aside and get off their asses to follow through. At this stage in their career, if they want to be known as more than a jukebox band playing their "hits", it's time to get serious. If not, on with the show, so to speak. Unfortunately, the sad truth is that more than a few members of The Mac just don't like each other very much. The men in Fleetwood Mac now have (in some cases) young children to raise, put through college, and leave properties and trust funds to. Chris and Stevie are alone without husbands and children, so the Fleetwood Mac gig is a way of keeping them active and busy. At this point, jukebox touring and making some money seems to be "enough" for these folks. |
I do not think it possible. No. I'll tell you why. Stevie, much as I love her output recent years and old albums is creativly and inspirationally bankrupt. And when she does manage to come up with a basis for a promising song she is SO stuck in her ways she can't refine or edit a song to make it Gloss and Gleam. It's her way or the highway. The extent of Cooperation and compromise she's capable of is touring. That's it.
At least LB moved on from the break up in 1976, the fight in 1987, and affair of 1997. He's consistently been a husband and father since 1998. Meanwhile Stevie is clutching desperately to following him down till the sound of her voice haunts him. It was cute for a while but reeks of desperation and Miss Havishan from Great Expectations. |
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She watched it happen Every day, day by day But more important Night by night.. She watched it all come into play He held her hand She listened to what he had to say..." "Maybe now he could prove to her That he could be good for her That they should be together...." Whether they actually had a physical affair or whether it was just emotional no one knows but plenty of people have opinions about..... |
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Oh you big softie... Xxx |
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They just want to fight like the England and Ireland! :wavey::wavey: |
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Just because I'm not afraid to give an unpopular opinion. |
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Did someone call my name? |
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