Fleetwood Mac and Eagles planning New York and L.A. festivals for 2017
 

From Billboard.com:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/bu...rk-los-angeles

Oh. So I guess that pretty much confirms the tour is off until next year then?
'The coast shows are the only dates Fleetwood Mac has scheduled for 2017, says a source'
I hope this doesn't include reference to Buckingham-McVie.

It's going to take more than this to make me believe it.

I shudder to think what the ticket price would be.

i can see fleetwood mac getting together to play the oldies for for a pay check but if the Eagles do it it's would be disrespectful ( for a lack of a kinder word )


Don Henley says the Eagles are done. It was always Glenn Frey’s band.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...c35_story.html

Don has been waffling on this. In September he said he was open to touring if Glenn's son would join the band. 2 months later he walked back the comment. It tells me people are throwing money at them to tour one more time.

I actually hope the big tour is delayed one year. That would give time to Buckhingham/MvVie to hit the road. I always believed that Buckhingham/McVie would not tour because there was not time to do so. I don't seen them scrambling doing a short tour to run and join a huge tour. It sucks the tour already missed the 40th anniversary of the release of Rumours but I would LOVE a year of Buckhingham/McVie before the monster farewell tour. This miracle of an album happened. Lets not release it and then not properly promote it. I want to soak up every minute. And yes I am hoping for a tour.
The article mentions 2 stadium festival dates. I don't see either band touring around such a festival.

I wouldn't read too much into that. It's all that's scheduled as of right now. That could always change.

even if this does happen, anyone wanting to go is gonna be paying $1,000's

Um, excuse me, it's not the Eagles without Glenn Frey! What the **** are they thinking?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ what else:shrug:

Exactly.....The Eagles are done.

Mark my words, Buckingham McVie will not tour.

How could they tour with Mick and John and not call themselves Fleetwood Mac?

And if they did tour without Mick and John, who would they hire to be their rhythm section? They could have the best rhythm section in the world but if they did, imagine the controversy. It would be mini Mac. Stevie would not be happy.

If any of them needs the money, then they're bigger idiots than Mick!

It's not need it 's greed.:laugh:

I agree its hard to go on without Glenn Frey. Can you imagine if Don Felder came back for the tour though? That is the only way I see them going on. Then again, Fleetwood Mac went on without Lindsey and NO ONE thought that was possible. The Mac even rolled on without Christine.
If the big final Mac tour is pushed til next year I think its a real possibility of a Buckhingham/McVie tour. And if it happens, I am prepared to spend $1000 for a front row seat :)

I agree, they'd have to bring Felder back to even call it the Eagles at this point. Henley, Walsh, and Schmit just wouldn't be the Eagles. Sure, you can get away with touring with a line-up of unknowns if you're the Vogues, but not the Eagles, or the Mac for that matter. I thought bringing in Jackson Browne for the Grammies performance was a good idea - he was around them a lot during the early years, and would be a suitable replacement for Frey - but they didn't sound great. I'm sure some more rehearsing would resolve that.

Curious to see if this rumor is true...

Can you imagine if Don Felder came back for the tour though?

This would be incredible, and with Bernie Leadon already touring with them, I think it would be the only thing that would make it anywhere close to the Eagles without Glenn Frey.

Yeah, Leadon/Felder/Henley/Walsh/Schmit could pass as the Eagles, IMO. It's too bad Randy Meissner is apparently in bad shape these days and can't join in them. Not sure what a band would do with two bass players, though.

Interesting choices. Wonder if Joe Walsh will be there.

All Stevie's men.. :rolleyes:

some are saying Bob Seger also as a replacement if they are going to do it they may as well add insult to injury and just Use sheryl crow she can do double duty and sub for Stevie


http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...302-story.html

And Jackson wrote Take It Easy with Glenn... actually it was Jackson's song and Glenn came in and helped him write some lyrics to it.

It's money greed but it seems like it's also bragging rights kind of greed. A way to show that you are still relevant and still on the A list bringing in big bucks and filling venues and have not faded away into the "whatever happened to....?" file. That's a very big thing for Stevie for sure.

I guess after recent years I shouldn't be, but I'm still surprised Lindsey goes in for this sort of stuff. He really seems to have accepted the "play the game" when you have to approach..... helps if you've got a bunch of kids and a wife's business and equestrian habits to support. Building big horse farms in the country ain't cheap.....

And some huge ego's, that still need massaging!!

They talked about the Eagles/Fleetwood Mac shows today on Sirius-XM Classic rewind today. While Felder coming back to the Eagles would be pipe dream come true, it would probably never happen. Unlike when Lindsey or Christine left.....they just left. Felder was bought out of the Eagles since most of their most famous songs were created by Felder. The settlement is secret but rumors swirled that Felder got close to a 100 million pay day. Although not all at once of course. Every time the Eagles tour they pay him a percentage if they play key songs, etc. Walsh and Felder don't have issues but Henley and Felder have major issues and it is unlikely this reunion would ever happen. To quote a former Eagles tour "When hell freezes over."
There would be to much legal wrangling for it to happen. Felder gets paid if he does not even tour but they do his songs. So its really a strange situation.

Nevermind.... grace is everything.

Agree -- I've always felt like the muscle is gone from the Eagles live shows without Don Felder.

It was. He blew Joe Walsh off the stage, IMO.

Not to start a big Eagles debate here, but I don't think that's remotely true. I appreciate what Felder brought to the band - he's a world-class rock guitarist - but the only widely-known songs he's even partially credited with writing are Hotel California and Victim of Love. Granted, HC is probably their signature tune, but even Felder admits that Henley wrote most of its lyrics.

They had 18 Top 40 hits, and Felder co-wrote one of 'em. Victim of Love, while a great track, wasn't released as a single, even. The vast majority of their hits were Henley/Frey compositions. I don't think that's in dispute.

HC - while the lyrics are good, they'd have been nothing without the music, which was Felder. It's a fairly unusual chord progression, and makes the song what it is.

He was never really a songwriter. That wasn't his place in the band. So that's kind of like slamming Mick or John, because they're not songwriters. He was brought in before Joe Walsh, when they were trying to lose their "country" sound, and he did just that. I'm a huge fan of his playing, and always thought his solos were far more interesting than Joe's "generic" solos.

Everyone always focuses on lyrics, but great lyrics with crappy music/chord progressions/riffs won't get you a hit song. Henley's a great lyricist but not as strong writing the music-- he's a lot like Stevie in that regard. In his solo work he relied on Danny Kortchmar among others to carry the musical load just as he relied on others within the Eagles. Without the music he'd just have a bunch of poetry notebooks full of stuff no one would ever hear.

The Eagles performing again is up to Don Henley with Joe Walsh and Timothy B. Schmit aboard. How do you perform Glenn Frey's songs with him deceased?

Eagles' standards featuring Frey on vocals:
"Take It Easy"
"Peaceful Easy Feeling"
"Tequila Sunrise"
"Already Gone"
"Lyin Eyes"
"Take It to the Limit"
"New Kid in Town"
"Heartache Tonight"

Walsh has performed "Take It to the Limit" at his 2016 concerts. Henley has sung harmony on "Lyin Eyes" and "New Kid in Town."

and Take It Easy is as much of a Jackson Browne song as it is a Glenn Frey song and Browne routinely performs it solo.... although if Jackson Browne was with the Eagles as a part of these festivals they would have advertised so.

Take it to the limit...
 

To be fair, this isn't exactly a Frey song...he took over singing it when Randy Meisner (I believe) stopped singing it for whatever reason he had at the time. He just didn't want to do it every night, so Glenn took over. The History of the Eagles is very interesting if anyone hasn't watched it. It even includes a very condensed look at how Felder got screwed over! Which is a real shame.

I don't think(not certain) that Glenn did it until after Meisner left the band, at the end? of the HC tour. And even then, I don't think Glenn did it until the past 20 years(god, that makes me feel old, writing that).

But yes, I've read that Meisner didn't like doing it, that he was afraid of the super high notes at the end, that he wouldn't be able to hit them.

There's no way they'd ever bring back Felder. Everyone is saying how disrespectful it is to tour without Glenn, well it'd be 10x worse to his memory to play with Felder. They have Steuart Smith. They don't need Felder. Use Jackson Browne or Glenn's son or J.D. Souther. They also can include Bernie like they did for the last tour. Heck, let Henley sing Glenn's songs. Works for me.

I don't see why Felder would need to be included. What about Bernie Leadon?

After Randy left they didn't play Take It To The Limit untill 99 at the Vegas Mellenium show. Then it became a staple in their sets.

I have a love hate thing re Felder. I agree that he was not treated very well by Fry and Henley over the years but where I take issue with him is this. He sued them and got a settlement and yet he won't gracefully take the high road.

First I heard stories that he has rountinely signed dvd's for fans from the Farewell One tour of which he was not even a part of.

Secondly he stirs the pot overnot being invited to the Grammy's to honour Glenn. Glenn and him were not on speaking terms and had not been for some time so why the hell would you think Glenn, his family or the Eagles members would want you there on stage???

Thirdly he creates a petition to the Kennedy Center Honors to get him, Bernie, and Randy included. While I agree that Bernie and Randy should have been included as they were original members what he did was low. You were fired. You sued. You got a nice chunk of money. Move on.

He is an amazing guitarist but he acts like a spoiled child.

Thus why I said I didn't think they did it until about the past 20 years, which would be 1997...

i can see the logic behind most of what you said but the signing dvds seems rather petty......clearly he'll sign whatever a fan might ask him to sign. If it's something his band did that he was no longer part of, so what. I mean, fans put all sorts of stuff in front of performers to sign.:shrug:

Put yourself in his shoes...

He was the last person to join the band, to be made a PARTNER in the band. An OWNER. Joe and Timothy were never offered that(the machine was getting too big, by the time they came along).

So Bernie and Randy quit, which meant that Frey, Felder, and Henley were ~now~ the three sole owners of the band. 1/3 each.

Now, there's no denying that Frey and Henley were the two principles in the band, since they were both the singers and primary songwriters. BUT, let's call a spade a spade. Felder owned his 1/3 of the band, and rightly deserved his 1/3 of the profits. Because that was legally the deal.

And greed took over, and Frey and Henley wanted more. I agree that they're the more popular ones, and maybe Felder should have given in. Probably in hindsight, he wishes that he had given in. But he certainly didn't have to, and I'm not sure if I'd want to give into their greed, and give up what was legally mine...

Also, back in the day, touring revenue had always been split 20% for each of the 5 members. Later, Henley and Frey wanted Felder, Walsh and Schmidt knocked down to 10% of the profits. 10% of a Gazillion dollars is still a sh*t ton of money, but he didn't want to back down, even demanding to see the books. Timothy called him, and told him he should sign the "10%" deal, but he wasn't having it. That's why they fired him.

They really did screw him, IMO.

I agree. I don't think a fan should ever give him that to sign, but if they're gauche enough to do so, then him refusing (thought justified) would make many fans accuse him of being arrogant and unfriendly. I mean, it's NBD, just move the line along.

Michele