Will Buckingham Mcvie outsell 24KG?
 

Just an interesting question. How many of you think that the Buckingham Mcvie album will sell more than Stevie's 24KG in week 1 in the US?

I know it seems a tedious question but I think it's an interesting one. It'll show how many die hard Mac fans there are, how many fans don't care very much for Stevie's input (or vice versa), and if Stevie's solo career is bigger than the other two main people in FM put together.

Stevie's 24KG came out in October 2014 but frankly the music business and album sales have not changed since then. It sold 33,000 copies in one week with hardly any promotion. Can Buckingham Mcvie beat that? Well I don't know. I think it'll be close but I think Stevie might just edge it.

Thoughts? Btw, this is pure speculation and I for one am so excited for the new album.

LB/CM is a new entity, and neither were especially viable as solo artists. SN is established as a solo artist. If they had released it as FM, then the poll would be a little more valid.

I think not, but I also think that if the album has good songs, the Buckingham McVie album will eventually sell more than 24KG worldwide.

I voted yes, just because I want them to succeed as a duo, after their need to create and share with their fans their hard work. :thumbsup:

No, it probably wont outsell 24kG, but I don't care.
Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie will probably struggle to break the top 20, but I don't care.

Exactly. They're not doing it for the money. I'm hoping the music is really good. That's what I want.

I could care less how many copies it sells. Sales are not a barometer for the success of this record. I only care about the quality of the music, that is how I and all fans should be assessing this record. :)

There is a major factor at play here as to which album will sell better. First and foremost, I think it's important to note that "24 Karat Gold: Songs From The Vault" was the LAST album that Stevie owed Warner/Reprise to complete her contract. The album was only recorded with the imposed deadline to complete her obligation to the label and bring her contract to an end. That being said, Warner/Reprise had no intention of launching a huge promotional push to sell the record. Thanks to Warner's lackluster promotion, "24 KG" was intentionally dead on arrival. This is sadly a common practice in the world of major label deals. When a label sees that it has nothing more to gain from an artist, they usually cut their losses and complete the contract with no promotion for the last record.

By contrast, it is my understanding that the NEW Buckingham/McVie record will be released by Atlantic Records. Thus, I'm assuming that Atlantic signed the duo to some sort of NEW deal. I'm not sure if the label thinks it will get to release any future Fleetwood Mac projects. Maybe they are hoping this "pet project" by the duo will turn into something greater.

My point is that the new Buckingham/McVie album will benefit from greater promotion from the label. This will surely translate into better sales. However, if this duo's record was up against a new Stevie album with full scale promotion from a major label, there's no way they would outsell Stevie, especially without the Fleetwood Mac name.

I know charts and sales are something that interests you, but honestly? Who cares!

Also, pitting different members of FM against each other is something we had so many uproars against on this board recently, and this poll does exactly that, so it's really unhealthy imho, even if you didn' mean it that way.

This is a troll of a thread :eek:
I don't know why some fret over chart listings and sales. Stevie solo records have routinely sold better than Lindsey or Christine solo records. Stop pitting the members against each other like its a board game!
My answer to the poll: Who cares?

Dumb thread. They are a new entity and are not getting special promotion or a World tour to help sell it.

It's just for speculation! You don't have to vote. :lol:

Bingo! If they had gone with Warner Brothers, I would have said no way....it's just going to be tossed out there, with dire results.
Atlantic, on the other hand, still works their acts, and they seem to have a plan for this album....there's a single out this week, the pre-order is up (Warners has gotten VERY lazy with their pre-orders, often waiting until just four to six weeks before the release date to put them up)....if radio gets behind the single (and that's a tall order these days!), they just might pull it off!
A good video would also help!

One other thing that I don't think has ever been mentioned/addressed.....on three or four albums SINCE the release of 24KG, Stevie is still given a courtesy credit of WB/Reprise.
If she were a free agent, as should be the case, after wrapping up her current contract with 24KG, this wouldn't be necessary....she might get a courtesy credit of (making this up here!) Welsh Witch Productions.....or, more realistically, nothing at all.
Has anyone heard of her (sadly!) reupping with WB?

#15 based on one day of pre-orders. Is that a good sign?

https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-..._dp_ts_music_1

Not bad.. it was 91 early in the day.

Thank you Elle!! :thumbsup:
Yes, can't we all just be happy about these new projects? Using exciting news to bash other FM band members is non-productive, not to mention immature.
Enough already.

Jamie

^^^I did not even take it that way. I don't think that everything people post here is about the asumed rivalry between Stevie and Mckingham/McVie supporters. A this time, I'm purely team B/McV, but when Stevie is about to release a new album, I will be as enthusiastic as I am now.

So let's just have some fun here, it's not often that we can get exited about a new album from anyone in the FM universe.

Exactly. It's well known and agreed by all that Stevie is the one with the self-sufficient solo career. So... it IS intriguing to find out what will happen when Lindsey and Christine join forces in terms of consumer response (different from popular response, btw).

Plus if they do do surprisingly well... there may be more Buckingham McVie in the future!

I don't mind fun. But, I have to give Jamie and Elle some credit here.

We all know of the bitterness that spouts from Stevie not being involved. (On either side)

If we can have fun with it, I'm all for it. The problem is people leave the board and get extremely upset.

So, let's keep it fun and w/ humor.

If the 10 buckvie fans buy 100 albums each, of course it will outsell Stevie!

It seems to be doing well with the pre-orders.

First off, everyone here is curious as to how much the album will sell, and for a variety of reasons. For example, and the obvious one is, if the album sells well, that increases the chance Christine and Lindsey might record another album together, with John and Mick (but remember, it will NOT be a Fleetwood Mac album, it's just an album recorded by 4 members of the 5 member band).

This thread is clearly meant to be fun, there's no shade here. It's still early, but my instinct tells me the album will sell less than 24 Karat the first week, but will sell more in the weeks that follow. Having said that, it doesn't matter what it sells OR how sales compare to Stevie, and the quality of the album is separate from how well it sells. This thread is just a fun barometer to see what we're thinking. If you feel that sales of the album is too sensitive a topic, don't answer the poll and skip this thread.

Thank you, Sir.

Yes, thank you. I just like the topic of sales and created this poll for a bit of fun. There was no malice intended. :)

sIt surprisingly does see to be doing well. I didn't think this would sell at all. I have selfish reasons for wanting to be the sole person in the theater. lol

haha i hear you!

and, i really hate they are mostly doing amphitheaters and not intimate theaters. i was hoping for much more intimate.

Being optimistic, and voted yes. I'm also going to say it will be better. So there.

As far as first week sales? I don't see it toppling 24k. However, if the music critics give it a rousing welcome, I could see a slow burn effect where it might eventually outpace the total sales of 24k. Especially considering that this whole Buckingham McVie thing is viewed as an experiment- something entirely new. Whereas 24k had the unfortunate qualifier, songs from the vault, tacked on to the end of its title- which elicited all sorts of negative connotations. Mainly, that these were unrelated reject songs thrown together to fulfill a recording contract. Combine that with the underdog aspect of Buckingham Nicks, and we might be in for a long-haul surprise.

I think it might but that's not the most important thing to me. However, remember that there's a lot of folk who like older FM but not Stevie. I believe this album is going to do good things but I'm realistic and it's really only about how I personally feel about it...the rest is hoo ha

I pre-ordered my copy today. Lets get it to #1!!!

i pre-ordered today too, on amazon. i like that i get both CD and digital download there. curious whether the single will become available digitally on friday to anyone who pre-ordered. it should, that's what all other releases i pre-ordered recently did, but who knows.

so i'm not voting in this poll cos i have no opinion on this topic and don't really want to try and pull one out of my a**. :lol:

however, if you voted, i'm curious how your vote relates to whether or not you bought either album? i'm not gonna ask which album you bought and how you voted since James made the poll non-transparent. i'm not interested in sales, but i am in people's behavior and correlations, so...... :cool:

James, since you started the thread, just curious if you are willing to share - whatever your vote is, did you vote for the album you bought or the other one that you didn't buy? or did you buy both albums? or neither?

I bought 24 Karat but was really disappointed in it, and traded it in to a used bookstore that also sells CDs. It's the only Stevie CD I don't own.

I voted that I don't think the new CD will sell as many copies the first week as 24 Karat. However, I think it will end up selling more in the long run. I hope it sells a ton of copies, but with the state of radio today not playing anything that was popular 15 years ago, who knows. I see this album as a Fleetwood Mac album, just without Stevie, just like Behind the Mask and Say You Will were FM albums.

And yes, I will be buying the new album.

I also pre-ordered my copy today on Amazon UK, because I also
pre-ordered Queen 3D book. :)

Despite our efforts, down to 36.

https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-...p_ts_music_1#2


(I know it may be excessive to repost the link but I thought it was a good idea it be on each page of this thread)

Wonder how it's doing on iTunes...

I am sure it will go up and down until the release

I think 24k Gold was rushed. Stevie said she wanted the songs to sound exactly like the demos. IMHO then why re-record them? I think if a good producer got ahold of the songs they could have been better.
Threw it away at a used book store? OUCH That is harsh :eek:

I think people are deaf. The demos sucked. The songs don't sound like the Demos. She is trying to shove that down our throats because she knows it's one of her best albums and it's also a dig against Lindsey. Let's see how far she would of come if Gypsy, Dreams, and Gold Dust sounded like the demos. Puke!!!!

I didn't TRASH it, I TRADED it in- big difference! Just wanted to clear that up. I bought the special edition CD, the one that cost $50.00 and had extra songs and a nice photo album. We all have our likes and dislikes, for example I love Rock a Little but I remember someone here saying RAL was the only CD by Stevie they don't have because they didn't like it. That blew me away, but that just goes to show how subjective music is. I gave 24 Karat many chances, but it just didn't grab me. We can't force something. But I appreciate other people love it.

Not sure how the Atlantic Records connection happened (other than the innacurate description on Amazon, which states under Label: Rhino), but this release is not Atlantic Records, but Warner Bros.

The actual CD in the photo has the Warner Music logo on it. Both the CD and iTunes (USA) state this:
2017 LMJC Productions, LLC & Merry Go Round Recording Inc under license to East West Records, a division of Warner Music UK Limited

I think Buckingham McVie will outsell simply because already the promotion is better. Maybe not in a week, but I do think their toned down approach is working. Stevie tries to promote her albums by doing morning shows and singing competitions, but IMHO that doesn't target the right audience. In the internet age, releasing cover art and a single while new articles are published every couple of weeks months in advance is a good way to get people's attention. We have the time to get excited for it and two FM writers/players teaming up is mysterious enough that I think people will at least want to hear it, at the very least music snobs in addition to fans. I agree that Stevie's label does next to nothing to promote her. Sadly, as none of them use social media, they are missing out on a great publicity opportunity.