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elle 05-12-2018 11:12 AM

LB on FM Firing: 'They'd Lost Their Perspective'
 
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/n...ective-w520246

Lindsey Buckingham on Fleetwood Mac Firing: 'They'd Lost Their Perspective'

"This was not something that was really my doing or my choice," guitarist says of exit from band

Lindsey Buckingham spoke about his firing from Fleetwood Mac for the first time when the guitarist performed Friday night at a California fundraiser.

Larry Marano/REX/Shutterstock
By Daniel Kreps

Lindsey Buckingham spoke about his firing from Fleetwood Mac for the first time when the guitarist performed Friday night at a California campaign fundraiser.

"It's been an interesting time on a lot of levels," Buckingham said at the fundraiser supporting Democratic congressional candidate Mike Levin (via Jeremy Roberts).

"For me, personally, probably some of you know that for the last three months I have sadly taken leave of my band of 43 years, Fleetwood Mac. This was not something that was really my doing or my choice."

"I think what you would say is that there were factions within the band that had lost their perspective," Buckingham continued. "The point is that they'd lost their perspective. What that did was to harm – and this is the only thing I'm really sad about, the rest of it becomes an opportunity – it harmed the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build, and that legacy was really about rising above difficulties in order to fulfill one's higher truth and one's higher destiny."

Buckingham, who weaved his remarks about the Fleetwood Mac firing into a speech supporting Levin, remained diplomatic about the rift with his now-former bandmates, even sidestepping an audience member who yelled "**** Stevie Nicks."

The brief comments were Buckingham's first on the matter since Fleetwood Mac announced in April that the band recruited the Heartbreakers' Mike Campbell and Crowded House's Neil Finn to replace Buckingham, who reportedly didn't want to embark on a Mac tour this year.

"Words like 'fired' are ugly references as far as I'm concerned," Mick Fleetwood told Rolling Stone in April. "Not to hedge around, but we arrived at the impasse of hitting a brick wall. This was not a happy situation for us in terms of the logistics of a functioning band. To that purpose, we made a decision that we could not go on with him. Majority rules in term of what we need to do as a band and go forward."

Watch Buckingham's comments on the Fleetwood Mac situation below:


elle 05-12-2018 12:22 PM

TMZ article
 
TMZ adding to the slew or articles citing Lindsey's speech last night (with the storied "band he founded" inaccuracy):




http://www.tmz.com/2018/05/12/lindse...ac-thrown-out/

LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM
THROWN OUT OF FLEETWOOD MAC ...

Now I Can Go My Own Way

5/12/2018 8:43 AM PDT

Lindsey Buckingham Says He's Been Thrown Out of Fleetwood Mac

Lindsey Buckingham is no longer a part of the band he founded ... and it was not his choice.

Lindsey was performing Friday night at an L.A. backyard fundraiser for California Congressman Mike Levin, when he told the crowd he has not been a part of Fleetwood Mac for 3 months. He made it clear it was not his doing ... he was unceremoniously kicked out by a band member or members.

Lindsey didn't say who was behind the overthrow, but judging from the video it sure seems it was Stevie Nicks.

Buckingham seemed sad, saying the members behind the ouster were tarnishing the group's 43-year legacy.

The group has had a storied history of discord ... discord that in many ways made their songs and performances amazing.

elle 05-12-2018 02:39 PM

Pitchfork
 
https://pitchfork.com/news/lindsey-b...source=dlvr.it

Lindsey Buckingham Responds to Fleetwood Mac Firing: Watch
Buckingham: “It harmed the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build”


Fleetwood Mac’s Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham, photo by Dia Dipasupil/Getty Images

Last month, Fleetwood Mac parted ways with longtime guitarist Lindsey Buckingham. Buckingham addressed the firing publicly for the first time last night while performing at a campaign fundraiser for California Democratic congressional candidate Mike Levin. “This was not something that was really my doing or my choice,” he said in between songs. “I think what you would say is that there were factions within the band that had lost their perspective.”

He continued, claiming the decision negatively affects Fleetwood Mac. “It harmed the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build, and that legacy was really about rising above difficulties in order to fulfill one’s higher truth and one’s high destiny.” Watch his full speech below.


Stevie Nicks recently discussed the decision to replace Buckingham with former Tom Petty guitarist Mike Campbell and Crowded House’s Neil Finn on Fleetwood Mac’s upcoming tour. “Our relationship has always been volatile,” Nicks said. “This is sad for me, but I want the next 10 years of my life to be really fun and happy.” Mick Fleetwood added: “Majority rules in terms of what we need to do as a band and go forward.”

elle 05-12-2018 03:08 PM





http://ultimateclassicrock.com/linds...t-perspective/

LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM SAYS FLEETWOOD MAC ‘LOST THEIR PERSPECTIVE’

DAVE LIFTON

Steven Ferdman, Getty Images

Lindsey Buckingham has finally spoken about his departure from Fleetwood Mac. Last night, he performed at a fundraiser for Mike Levin, a Democratic candidate for California's 49th Congressional District, where he made his first public comments about the band's decision to tour without him, which you can see below.

The video, found by Medium, begins with Buckingham saying, "It’s been an interesting time on a lot of levels. For me, personally, probably some of you know that for the last three months I have sadly taken leave of my band of 43 years, Fleetwood Mac. This was not something that was really my doing or my choice. I think what you would say is that there were factions within the band that had lost their perspective."


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After someone in the crowd shouted, "**** Stevie Nicks," Buckingham diplomatically raised his hand and refused to point a finger of blame. "Well, it doesn’t really matter," he continued. "The point is that they'd lost their perspective, and what that did was to harm – and this is the only thing I'm really sad about; the rest of it becomes an opportunity – it harmed the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build, and that legacy was really about rising above difficulties in order to fulfill one's higher truth and one's higher destiny."

Lindsey Buckingham Publicly Comments on his dismissal from Fleetwood Mac for the first time
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He then pivoted into the reason why he was playing a political fundraiser, citing a similar loss of perspective in Washington with regard to checks and balances. The seat in the U.S. House of Representatives is up for grabs, with Republican Darrell Issa, who has held the seat since 2000, stepping down.

Buckingham, who left the band after 1987's Tango in the Night and rejoined 10 years later, has been replaced by Mike Campbell from Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers and Neil Finn of Crowded House for their upcoming tour. Nicks said that the decision to move on without him was the result of him wanting to wait until next year to go on the road.

Fleetwood Mac's tour begins Oct. 3 at the BOK Center in Tulsa and will continue, over two legs with a six-week break in mid-December and January, through April 5 in Philadelphia. You can check out all the dates here.

elle 05-12-2018 03:32 PM

from Kristen Buckingham's IG - LB's speech in 3 parts -


bombaysaffires 05-12-2018 03:41 PM

https://www.eonline.com/news/934819/...ir-perspective

I don't know how to make a nice link like those above where you can see the video also, but it's the same video anyway. Here' the text:



Lindsey Buckingham Breaks Silence on Fleetwood Mac Firing: ''They Lost Their Perspective''

by MEG SWERTLOW | Sat., May. 12, 2018 11:58 AM



Lindsey Buckingham is breaking his silence on the matter of his exit from Fleetwood Mac.

Buckingham confirmed on stage that leaving the band of 43 years was not his "choice" just over one month after Rolling Stone reported that the rocker had been "fired" due to a disagreement over an upcoming tour and replaced by Mike Campbell of Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers and Neil Finn of Crowded House.

While the band has done some talking on the subject, Lindsey has kept mum—until now.

"It's been an interesting time on a lot of levels for me personally. Probably some of you know, that for the last three months I have taken leave of my band of 43 years, Fleetwood Mac. This was not something that was my doing or my choice," said the guitarist and singer.

He continued, "I think what you would say there were factions that were in the band that had lost their perspective."

An audience member yelled out, "Stevie Nicks!"

Buckingham responded, "It doesn't really matter. The point is that they lost their perspective...and what that did was to harm—and this is the one thing I am really sad about because the rest of it becomes an opportunity—it harmed the 43-year legacy that we worked so hard to build. And that legacy was really about rising above difficulties in order to fulfill someone's higher truth and one's higher destiny."
Fleetwood Mac Drags Lindsey Buckingham After Ousting in Unfiltered Interview

elle 05-12-2018 03:44 PM

vintage LB pulling faces - love this so much!


bombaysaffires 05-12-2018 03:48 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...-Mac-time.html

yeah it's the DM but they have links to various videos and some good photos

'This was not my choice': Lindsey Buckingham addresses firing from Fleetwood Mac for first time as he says band has 'harmed its legacy'
By Ross Mcdonagh For Dailymail.com
PUBLISHED: 14:50 EDT, 12 May 2018 | UPDATED: 15:20 EDT, 12 May 2018


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...#ixzz5FK3eLiFY
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Jondalar 05-12-2018 03:53 PM

Fleetwood Mac is not into growing musically or really even making new music. They only stayed together for 5 albums in the 70s and 80s. Once Stevie became a star she expected everyone else to turn one of her rhymes into a hit. She quit perfecting things. Lindsey was the only person in the band who wanted to push things musically.

elle 05-12-2018 04:55 PM

Lindsey Buckingham shatters silence over Fleetwood Mac ousting
 
very nice article where you can go in and click on the links to most videos from last night plus many other relevant videos if want wants to see all different sides of the situation (doesn't mean it's all correct, but still A for effort!):


https://medium.com/@jeremylr/lindsey...g-f77f41762c8c

Lindsey Buckingham shatters silence over Fleetwood Mac ousting

Jeremy Roberts
Retro pop culture interviews and elusive love feelings sustain this University of Georgia Master of Agricultural Leadership alum.
May 12

“There were factions within the band that had lost their perspective…what that did was to harm the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build.” For the first time, Fleetwood Mac guitar slinger Lindsey Buckingham publicly addresses why he was fired from the diamond-certified ’70s pop rock quintet. Dressed casually in blue jeans, a black T-shirt, and cool black leather jacket in the accompanying still, a sweat-soaked Buckingham screams in ecstasy after soloing on a customized Rick Turner Renaissance guitar. Image Credit: Photography by Jeremy Roberts
Thirty-seven days after a tweet by late ’80s Fleetwood Mac guitarist Billy Burnette ironically divulged that the guy he replaced in the rock quintet, Lindsey Buckingham, had been unceremoniously fired at the insistence of Stevie Nicks and Mick Fleetwood, the idiosyncratic Rumours mastermind finally broke his silence over the shocking revelation.

Not seen in public since January 26 when Fleetwood Mac was bestowed MusiCares Person of the Year by the Recording Academy, Buckingham was videoed Friday evening in between songs at a campaign fundraiser supporting Mike Levin, an environmental attorney and Democratic candidate seeking election to the U.S. House to represent the 49th Congressional District of California.

“It’s been an interesting time on a lot of levels,” said Buckingham from the Los Feliz, California, backyard of fellow Levin donor Erica Rothschild. “For me, personally, probably some of you know that for the last three months I have sadly taken leave of my band of 43 years, Fleetwood Mac. This was not something that was really my doing or my choice.

“I think what you would say is that there were factions within the band that had lost their perspective [a female fan shouts, ‘F — k Stevie Nicks!,’ prompting Buckingham to raise his hand]. Well, it doesn’t really matter. The point is that they’d lost their perspective. What that did was to harm — and this is the only thing I’m really sad about, the rest of it becomes an opportunity — it harmed the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build [another admirer chimes in, ‘That you built, Lindsey’]. That legacy was really about rising above difficulties in order to fulfill one’s higher truth and one’s higher destiny.”

Adroitly drawing a parallel as to why the blue state constituents were in attendance, Buckingham continued, “Now, we also are at a point with our country in Washington where there’s been a loss of perspective. Mr. Dean [John W. Dean, President Richard Nixon’s White House Counsel and Watergate star witness who spoke earlier at the fundraiser] saw it first-hand 45 years ago. I think the difference was that perhaps there were more separations of powers. There was more potential for checks and balances in that loss of perspective. The loss of perspective we see now is indeed threatening to harm the legacy that is the United States.

“In the context of that you’ve gotta think of what needs to be done. It is not gonna come from the top down — it is gonna come from the ground up. This is why we are here. And so, I am most honored and most pleased to have been asked in my own small way to help in that pushback which very, very much needs to happen in order to continue the legacy that we all have come to value. So, thank you for having me.”

Fleetwood Mac replaced Buckingham with two ingenious choices — Australian rock band Crowded House singer-guitarist Neil Finn and Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers chief axeman Mike Campbell, whose frequent studio and stage collaborations with Nicks extend to her debut solo single “Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around” in 1981. The diamond-certified pop rockers are scheduled to begin a prodigious 52-date North American arena tour on October 3 in Tulsa, Oklahoma, which apparently precipitated the split.

On a CBS This Morning April 25 profile moderated by Anthony Mason, the jilted “Landslide” chanteuse was not sorry to part ways with her former paramour. “This team wanted to get out on the road, and one of the members didn’t want to go out on the road for a year,” said Nicks, who was the only Fleetwood Mac member not to join the sessions for last year’s acclaimed Buckingham McVie record. “We just couldn’t agree. When you’re in a band, it’s a team. I have a solo career. I love my solo career, and I’m the boss. But I’m not the boss in this band.”

Fleetwood, the groove-laden drummer and co-founder, seconded the most recognizable group member and only one capable of packing arenas to Rolling Stone’s Andy Greene. “Not to hedge around, but we arrived at the impasse of hitting a brick wall,” admitted Fleetwood. “This was not a happy situation for us in terms of the logistics of a functioning band. To that purpose, we made a decision that we could not go on with him. Majority rules in term of what we need to do as a band and go forward.” Singer-songwriter-keyboardist Christine McVie was at home in London and not told until after the majority vote had been cast.

A fan encounter filmed the day after the MusiCares gala and a few days before Buckingham’s sacking found the multifaceted musician explaining that he wanted to plot solo “small machine” dates in between Fleetwood Mac’s upcoming “big machine” trek. There’s obviously much more to the obfuscating soap opera. Until Buckingham decides to shed further light, his diplomatic, classy rebuttal will have to suffice heartbroken fans.


Video Credit: The Brian Larsen Collection / YouTube

On May 11, 2018, former Fleetwood Mac frontman Lindsey Buckingham poses for a quick selfie with indie rock singer-songwriter and ardent Fleetwood Mac aficionado Brian Larsen during a backyard campaign fundraiser appearance for Mike Levin, an environmental attorney and Democratic candidate seeking election to the U.S. House to represent the 49th Congressional District of California, at the Los Feliz, California, home of Erica Rothschild. Larsen captured the video of Buckingham’s first public comments on being fired from Fleetwood Mac. Image Credit: The Brian Larsen Collection / Twitter

In his first public appearance since Fleetwood Mac’s MusiCares Person of the Year celebration at Radio City Music Hall in New York City on January 26, former Fleetwood Mac member Lindsey Buckingham opts for a Gibson acoustic guitar during an intimate backyard campaign fundraiser appearance for Mike Levin, an environmental attorney and Democratic candidate seeking election to the U.S. House to represent the 49th Congressional District of California, at the Los Feliz, California, home of Erica Rothschild on May 11, 2018. Image Credit: Photography by Talia Osteen Hess / Twitter

“After we flip the house, we’re never going back again!” In his first public appearance since Fleetwood Mac’s MusiCares Person of the Year celebration at Radio City Music Hall in New York City on January 26, former Fleetwood Mac guitarist Lindsey Buckingham plays an intimate acoustic backyard campaign fundraiser appearance for Mike Levin, an environmental attorney and Democratic candidate seeking election to the U.S. House to represent the 49th Congressional District of California, at the Los Feliz, California, home of Erica Rothschild on May 11, 2018. Image Credit: Photography by Randi Mayem Singer / Twitter

In his first public appearance since Fleetwood Mac’s MusiCares Person of the Year celebration at Radio City Music Hall in New York City on January 26, former Fleetwood Mac guitarist Lindsey Buckingham plays an intimate acoustic backyard campaign fundraiser appearance for Mike Levin, an environmental attorney and Democratic candidate seeking election to the U.S. House to represent the 49th Congressional District of California, at the Los Feliz, California, home of Erica Rothschild on May 11, 2018. Image Credit: Photography by Karen Ray / Twitter

An advertisement plugs the campaign fundraiser for Mike Levin, an environmental attorney and Democratic candidate seeking election to the U.S. House to represent the 49th Congressional District of California, at the Los Feliz, California, home of Erica Rothschild. “Rumours” mastermind Lindsey Buckingham, part of Fleetwood Mac’s core lineup for 43 years until being unceremoniously fired in April 2018, made his first public appearance at the backyard May 11 event following the abrupt news. Event co-hosts included actress Alyssa Milano, techno singer-songwriter Moby, and writer-director Cameron Crowe. Image Credit: Photography by Karen Ray / Twitter Image Credit: The Campaign to Elect Mike Levin / Fleetwood Mac News



With hands resting comfortably on his customized Rick Turner Renaissance guitar, Lindsey Buckingham prepares the audience for three new songs in a row by delivering a rehearsed “big machine” [aka Fleetwood Mac] versus “small machine” [the solo stuff] speech during a fantastic solo “Seeds We Sow” concert on October 3, 2011, at the Florida Theatre in Jacksonville, Florida. Image Credit: Photography by Jeremy Roberts

Lindsey Buckingham prepares the audience for three new songs in a row by delivering a rehearsed “big machine” [aka Fleetwood Mac] versus “small machine” [the solo stuff] speech during a fantastic solo “Seeds We Sow” concert on October 3, 2011, at the Florida Theatre in Jacksonville, Florida. Image Credit: Photography by Jeremy Roberts

PoetofRhiannon 05-12-2018 05:03 PM

Just saw the CBS This Morning interview with the "new" Fleetwood Mac, where Mick says that this is "absolutely a new band."
Mike Campbell and Neil Finn say that they are not thinking this is a "temporary gig" and it really just hit me that Fleetwood Mac might never be the same....

elle 05-12-2018 05:07 PM





http://www.showbiz411.com/2018/05/12...ir-perspective


Lindsey Buckingham On Why He Was Nixed from Fleetwood Mac: “There were factions in the band that had lost their perspective”

by Roger Friedman - May 12, 2018 3:11 pm

Lindsay Buckingham has addressed his ouster from Fleetwood Mac. He was fired, it wasn’t a matter of scheduling (we knew that, didn’t we?).

Was it his long time partner Stevie Nicks who nixed him? Someone yells her name at a backyard show where Buckingham was playing. He responds by saying, “It doesn’t matter.”

Well, it does matter. Fleetwood Mac told Lindsey ‘You can go your own way’ after 43 years. That’s not very nice. They replaced him with Neil Finn from Crowded House and Mike Campbell of Tom Petty’s Heartbreakers, but that’s not Fleetwood Mac, jack.

Watch the video:

wondergirl9847 05-12-2018 05:50 PM

Wut?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elle (Post 1227764)
Mick Fleetwood added: “Majority rules in terms of what we need to do as a band and go forward.”

I've tried, but nothing make sense. Majority out of the 5? So, Mick, Stevie and who was the third? John? Christine, who claims she wasn't part of the ouster?

This is so disappointing that either of the McVies went along with this. :distress:

elle 05-12-2018 06:07 PM

http://bestclassicbands.com/lindsey-...d-mac-5-12-18/

Lindsey Buckingham: Mac ‘Lost Their Perspective’
by Best Classic Bands Staff

Nicks and Buckingham in happier times

Lindsey Buckingham spoke out publicly for the first time about his departure from “my band for 43 years.” The now-former Fleetwood Mac member performed Friday night (May 11) at a fundraiser for California Congressman Mike Levin.

“This has been an interesting time on a lot of levels for me, personally,” he said. “Probably some of you know that, for the last three months, I have sadly taken leave of my band for 43 years, Fleetwood Mac. This was not something that was either my doing or my choice. I think what you would say was that there were factions within the band that had lost their perspective.”

As he paused, an audience member shouted: “F*ck Stevie Nicks.” Was his former lover and longtime band mate the main culprit? Buckingham clearly heard it, acknowledging: “Well, it doesn’t really matter. The point is that they’ve lost their perspective and what that did was to harm… and this is the only thing I’m really sad about it… the rest of it becomes an opportunity… but it harmed the 43 year legacy that we built. And that legacy was really about rising above difficulties in order to fulfill one’s higher truth and one’s higher destiny.”


Fleetwood Mac in 2014


Related: Fleetwood Mac discuss their new lineup

He then turned political. “Now we’re also at a point with our country in Washington… where there’s been a loss of perspective. Mr. Dean saw it first-hand 45 years ago,” he said, referring to the Nixon White House Counsel. “I think the difference was that perhaps there were more separation of powers… more potential for checks and balances.

“But the loss of perspective we see now is, indeed, threatening to harm the legacy that is the United States. In the context of that you’ve got to think of what needs to be done. And it is not gonna come from the top down… it is gonna come from the ground up and this is why we are here. I am most honored and most pleased to have been asked, in my own small way, to help in that push back which very, very much needs to happen in order to continue the legacy we have all come to value.”

Tickets for Fleetwood Mac’s 2018-2018 tour are available here and here.

Watch Buckingham’s speech

Dr.Brown 05-12-2018 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wondergirl9847 (Post 1227787)
I've tried, but nothing make sense. Majority out of the 5? So, Mick, Stevie and who was the third? John? Christine, who claims she wasn't part of the ouster?

This is so disappointing that either of the McVies went along with this. :distress:

Probably a snowball effect - the catalyst being Stevie, with Mick just "following the money", then John and Christine probably sticking with Mick out of loyalty. Very disappointed as well that they did not recognize that this is a pretty sh!tty way for the band to end its run. :(

ryan4136 05-12-2018 06:27 PM

After hearing LBs classy comments, I wonder if he gave Christine his blessing to stay, as to not rock the boat too much, keeping open a likelihood of reunion. If she bolted too, it really might’ve been the end for good.

elle 05-12-2018 06:37 PM






https://www.spin.com/featured/fleetw...in-a-timeline/

Fleetwood Mac’s Lindsey Buckingham Goes His Own Way (Again): A Timeline
Written By Stephen Thomas Erlewine April 10 2018, 5:46 PM ET

Just three years ago, when Fleetwood Mac was awash in good vibes after the return of Christine McVie, MOJO Magazine asked Mick Fleetwood if it was the classic lineup or nothing. The drummer, who has anchored the British band with bassist John McVie since 1967, responded: “This is it, to me. Emotionally, if you think of the enormity of what has happened, the surprise of what has happened, the doors that have opened to be walked through…if you were writing a book, you’d go, ‘Isn’t it a shame I can’t end it like this?’ We’ve had the chance to end it like that and I wouldn’t dream of it any other way.”

Dreams never last. It was only a matter of time before Fleetwood’s rosy summary of the future of rock’s most mercurial band shattered, and April 9, 2018 brought the news. Lindsey Buckingham–the guitarist/singer/producer/songwriter who sat at the foundation of Fleetwood Mac since 1975–would not joining the band on its farewell tour later this year. Shortly after the story broke in Variety, it was reported by Rolling Stone that Buckingham was fired over disagreements concerning this tour.

Details remain sketchy but as its surprise reveal fades, Buckingham’s departure seems like the inevitable end to his time in Fleetwood Mac. After all, the group had eight guitarists before he joined and, with this year’s addition of Crowded House’s Neil Finn and Mike Campbell of Tom Petty’s Heartbreakers, there have been six other members that have played with the group once Lindsey left them high and dry. Buckingham may have played a pivotal part of Fleetwood Mac’s story but it was only a part–one that was fraught with so much creative tension, it’s a wonder either of his tenures lasted as long as they did. Here we’ve created a brief history of Buckingham’s time with the band.

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1973: As Fleetwood Mac release Mystery To Me, their fifth album to feature Christine McVie and guitarist Bob Welch, Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks debut with Buckingham Nicks, a sweet, hazy collection of folky Southern Californian soft-rock produced by Ken Olsen. Buckingham Nicks sinks without a trace, leaving the duo nearly destitute and looking for a break.

1974: Fleetwood Mac begins the year battling a former manager who launched a competing band with by the same name, alongside members of a group called Legs, and ends it with Bob Welch quitting the band on the eve of recording an album. Desperate to replace his guitarist, Mick Fleetwood remembers Ken Olsen playing him “Frozen Love,” a song from Buckingham Nicks, earlier that year, so he offers Buckingham the gig without an audition. Lindsey insists that his partner Stevie join as well–a magnanimous gesture, to be sure, but also the first sign he’ll put his own creative interests first.

1975: Despite the reservations of John McVie–“we’re a blues band, this is really far away from the blues,” Olsen recounted–Fleetwood Mac decided to follow the direction of Buckingham and Nicks and refashion themselves on their eponymous 1975 album.

1976: As Fleetwood Mac climbs the charts in the early months of 1976, Rolling Stone reveals in an April 22, 1976 news item that Buckingham and Nicks are the second couple in Fleetwood Mac to be hitting “choppy waters.” This marks the first airing of the interpersonal strife within the band and it’s a double reveal, divulging the divorce of the McVies as well. With all their dirty laundry going public, the group embarks on the stress-filled recording of a new album, which they would call Rumours after all the gossip in the press.

1977: Released in February, Rumours elevates the band to superstardom. The album stays at the top of the Billboard charts for 33 weeks, generating the Top 10 hits “Go Your Own Way,” “Dreams,” “Don’t Stop,” and “You Make Loving Fun.”


1978: Riding high on Rumours, Buckingham and Nicks experience a detente in their personal relationship as they co-produce Walter Egan’s Fundamental Roll, which features the yacht rock standard “Magnet and Steel.” (Nicks would also sing harmonies on “Gold,” a hit Buckingham produced for John Stewart in 1979).

1979: Heading into the studio to record the sequel to Rumours, Lindsey Buckingham was insisting that the Mac make an album that turned their 1977 blockbuster on its head. Christine McVie would tell Creem, “I think if we hadn’t done that album, then Lindsey might’ve left,” but that doesn’t mean the sessions were easy. Nicks recounted in the liner notes to the 2015 reissue of Tusk–the resulting double-LP released at the end of 1979–that Buckingham was so adamant to do something the opposite of previous record “that I think he scared us.”

1980: Despite two Top 10 hits in “Tusk” and “Sara,” Tusk didn’t replicate the success of Rumours, and tensions began to bubble over onto the stage. During the final gig for the supporting tour for Tusk, Buckingham announced “This is our last concert….for a long time,” sparking chatter that the band was about to split.

1981: Lindsey Buckingham, Stevie Nicks and Mick Fleetwood all release solo albums, with Lindsey’s restless Law And Order and its accompanying Top 10 hit “Trouble” overshadowed by Stevie’s Bella Donna, which produced three hits in “Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around,” “Leather and Lace” and “Edge of Seventeen.”

1982: Fleetwood Mac decides to reunite for a new album but, according to Buckingham, they tell the guitarist “we’re not going do that process anymore”–so he swallows his pride and the group makes the cozy, lovely Mirage.

1983: While Mirage floats down the charts, Lindsey Buckingham contributes the nervy “I Want You Back” to I’m Not Me, an album by Mick Fleetwood’s Zoo. (A move that suggests everything is operating smoothly behind the scenes.) Meanwhile, Nicks’s solo career flourishes with The Wild Heart and its hit “Stand Back”.

1984-1986: Upon the 1984 release of his solo set Go Insane, Lindsey Buckingham told Rolling Stone “I’m trying to break down preconceptions of what pop music is” and, like most pioneers, he didn’t see much commercial success for his endeavors. This was the beginning of a rough patch for the Fleetwood Mac universe. Ten years on from their pop reinvention, the group were scattered and working on solo projects. Buckingham in particular was dedicated to his studio work, but he slowly came back aboard. After aborted sessions with Nile Rogers, Buckingham and his co-producer Richard Dashut agreed to helm the new record, which was largely made while Nicks was on a solo tour.


1987: Tango In The Night is released in April of 1987 but, by August, the band splinters over the fact that Buckingham didn’t want to tour the record. He split and is replaced by Billy Burnett—who had previously played with Zoo–and Rick Vito. The new set of performers immediately head out on tour

1990: Fleetwood Mac take a stab at recording a new album with Burnett and Vito but Behind the Mask underperforms, going Gold in the US on sheer name recognition. Meanwhile, Buckingham toils away on his third solo album.

1991-1995: In 1992, Buckingham finally releases Out of the Cradle, but it went no further than a disappointing 128 on Billboard’s charts. His former bandmates aren’t faring much better. Nicks leaves Fleetwood Mac in 1993, and the group soldiers through with Bekka Bramlett and Dave Mason. This lineup produces Time, a 1995 set that is their first album since 1968 to not chart in the US, and Mick Fleetwood announces the group was breaking up.

1996-1998:
The classic ’70s lineup of Fleetwood Mac begins to mend bridges in 1996, with Fleetwood coming in to drum on a Buckingham solo project that would quickly feature John McVie. Elsewhere, Nicks reaches out to Buckingham to produce and sing on her contribution to the Twister soundtrack. By 1997, the Buckingham project morphs into new studio sessions that supplement the live reunion album The Dance, which kicks off a tour that stretches into 1998. Upon its conclusion, Christine McVie leaves the group.

1999-2008: Right after Christine’s departure, Fleetwood Mac stays quiet. They resurface in 2003 with Say You Will, an album consisting entirely of originals written separately by Nicks and Buckingham. Christine McVie does appear on the album, but these are tracks that were originally planned for a Lindsey solo album from the ’90s. Following its release, the band pursue solo projects, with Buckingham swiftly releasing Under The Skin in 2006 and Gift Of Screws in 2008.

2009-2013: Without Christine, the remaining core four reunite for a tour called Unleashed in 2009, but once again both Nicks and Buckingham choose to concentrate on solo albums, not new Fleetwood Mac recordings. This makes the 2013 appearance a surprise: the four-track
Extended Play–the first Mac music in a decade–snuck out without fanfare (or much of a title) but it as the first indication the group is attempting to do something more than play the old tunes. (This wouldn’t last long.)


2014-2015: Christine McVie rejoins the band for a reunion tour dubbed On With The Show. There are rumblings that new recordings would accompany the tour, but Nicks never signs on for a new album, so the band spends two years touring the world.

2016-2017: With Stevie Nicks reluctant to record a new album, Buckingham and Christine McVie decide to finish their own material–including a song called “On With The Show,” which was intended to be the anthem for the mid-2010s tour–much of which is recorded with the rhythm section of Mick Fleetwood and John McVie. The resulting Buckingham McVie appears in June 2017, followed by a tour from the duo. Everything seems fine within the Fleetwood Mac camp as they approach a farewell tour.

Which brings us to now: The plans for the 2018 tour swiftly collapsed after the group accepted the award for MusicCares Person of the Year in January. Not long afterward, something went wrong within the group. The first indication of something possibly being wrong is when Billy Burnette tweeted that “Lindsey Buckingham is out but I’m not in” on April 4–he swiftly deleted the Tweet, but the story was out in the world. Not a week later, Buckingham’s departure was announced simultaneously with the hire of Crowded House’s Neil Finn and Mike Campbell of the Heartbreakers–two heavy-hitters that are guaranteed to help ease the pain of Lindsey’s dismissal.
Whether the Finn and Campbell-infused edition of Fleetwood Mac flourishes or fails, one thing can be certain: it’s almost truer to the band for them to open up a messy new chapter. A tidy ending isn’t one suited for a story as operatic as Fleetwood Mac.

elle 05-12-2018 06:39 PM




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Lindsey Buckingham Breaks Silence on Leaving Fleetwood Mac: It Was Not 'My Doing or My Choice'
5/12/2018 by Ashley Iasimone
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Lindsey Buckingham on stage with Fleetwood Mac.

Just over a month after Fleetwood Mac announced Lindsey Buckingham would not be joining the group on its upcoming tour, the guitarist and singer has addressed parting ways with his bandmates.

"I have sadly taken leave of my band of 43 years, Fleetwood Mac. This was not something that was really my doing or my choice,” Buckingham, said during a performance in Los Feliz, Calif., Friday night (May 11). “I think what you would say is that there were factions within the band that had lost their perspective.”

“It harmed the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build," he said of the group's decision, "and that legacy was really about rising above difficulties in order to fulfill one’s higher truth and one’s higher destiny.”

He refrained from commenting when one audience member yelled "**** Stevie Nicks."

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Buckingham was performing at a campaign fundraiser for Mike Levin, a California Democratic congressional candidate.

On April 9, Fleetwood Mac issued a statement that simply said, "Lindsey Buckingham will not be performing with the band on this tour. The band wishes Lindsey all the best." it was also revealed that he would be replaced by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers' Mike Campbell and Crowded House's Neil Finn on tour.

The remaining members of the band -- Stevie Nicks, Christine McVie, John McVie and Mick Fleetwood -- later said the split happened because of conflicts with tour rehearsal schedules, but were reluctant to use the word "fired." “Not to hedge around, but we arrived at the impasse of hitting a brick wall," Fleetwood told Rolling Stone. "This was not a happy situation for us in terms of the logistics of a functioning band. To that purpose, we made a decision that we could not go on with him. Majority rules in term of what we need to do as a band and go forward.”

Hear Buckingham's comments in the video below.

Jondalar 05-12-2018 06:41 PM

I really don’t want to spend another $ on them without Lindsey.

elle 05-12-2018 06:41 PM




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Lindsey Buckingham Discusses His Departure From Fleetwood Mac
Rob Arcand // May 12, 2018

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Last month, Fleetwood Mac announced an upcoming US tour, and with it that they’d finally be parting ways with longtime guitarist and songwriter Lindsey Buckingham. In conversation with Rolling Stone, the band said that the decision was in response to Buckingham’s objections to the band’s upcoming tour schedule, and that his firing came down to a sort of “majority rules” decision. At the time, Buckingham declined to comment.

But in a performance last night at a campaign fundraiser for California Democratic congressional candidate Mike Levin, Buckingham finally broke his silence on his recent departure from the band. “This was not something that was really my doing or my choice,” he said on stage between songs. “I think what you would say is that there were factions within the band that had lost their perspective.”

Buckingham also added that his firing has negatively affected the band’s career-spanning legacy together. “It harmed the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build, and that legacy was really about rising above difficulties in order to fulfill one’s higher truth and one’s high destiny,” he said. Watch a clip of his remarks below.

aleuzzi 05-12-2018 06:47 PM

In a polite but pointed way, Lindsey is saying exactly what should be said: the band has tarnished its legacy for the sake of a quick buck.

Some factions within the band lost their perspective indeed.

His phrasing suggests Christine was not culpable, but it's hard to square that with her enthusiastic (though obviously canned) comments about the new lineup on the CBS show.

I really do hope they do a Buckingham/McVie II.

ryan4136 05-12-2018 07:08 PM

While I don’t think Chris played an active role, I don’t think it’s fair to say she’s 100% LB on this. More likely she was positioned more in the middle, but has LB confident she didn’t play a part in the ouster. I bet he doesn’t even blame John, Johns not going to go against Mick at the end of the day, and he knows that.

jwd 05-12-2018 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan4136 (Post 1227802)
While I don’t think Chris played an active role, I don’t think it’s fair to say she’s 100% LB on this. More likely she was positioned more in the middle, but has LB confident she didn’t play a part in the ouster. I bet he doesn’t even blame John, Johns not going to go against Mick at the end of the day, and he knows that.


How can she be 100% Lindsey? She's still in the band. Obviously she agrees with what happened, at least to the extent that she still wants to be around "the backstabbers"(I use that term loosely). I'm thinking Lindsey at least gives credit to Christine for wanting to keep the creative aspect of the band continuing by writing new songs and wanting to make a new FM record. This perspective is where Stevie differed from the rest of the band, at least in the context of making new music with Lindsey.

SteveMacD 05-12-2018 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jwd (Post 1227803)
How can she be 100% Lindsey? She's still in the band. Obviously she agrees with what happened, at least to the extent that she still wants to be around "the backstabbers"(I use that term loosely).

Why can’t she have loyalties to both Lindsey and the others? She can disagree with the decision but still stay in the band. Does everything have to be black and white?

jwd 05-12-2018 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1227804)
Why can’t she have loyalties to both Lindsey and the others? She can disagree with the decision but still stay in the band. Does everything have to be black and white?

That's called playing both sides of the fence in my world. If she sees it the way a lot of fans, at least on this forum see it, she would have done something to stop it.....or jumped ship. Otherwise she's agreeing with the bands' decision.

BombaySapphire3 05-12-2018 08:55 PM

Yeah unless they were bringing back Peter Green himself Fleetwood Mac should have disbanded at the moment that they decided to fire one of the five.To carry on now as is is an unfunny joke.

diamondsnake 05-12-2018 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1227807)
.To carry on now as is is an unfunny joke.

In my opinion, it's simply pathetic at their age. It's called retirement sweetie. If this tour wasn't meant to be, then just end the book. Don't start a messy new chapter when your in your 70s!

secondhandchain 05-12-2018 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake (Post 1227809)
In my opinion, it's simply pathetic at their age. It's called retirement sweetie. If this tour wasn't meant to be, then just end the book. Don't start a messy new chapter when your in your 70s!

Right on! How embarrassing. There almost in walkers and they think they are going to start and exciting new band????? :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

SteveMacD 05-12-2018 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jwd (Post 1227805)
That's called playing both sides of the fence in my world. If she sees it the way a lot of fans, at least on this forum see it, she would have done something to stop it.....or jumped ship. Otherwise she's agreeing with the bands' decision.

I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. Life isn’t that black and white.

elle 05-12-2018 11:46 PM

http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2018...as-pushed.html

Lindsey Buckingham Says He Was Pushed Out of Fleetwood Mac But Thinks of It As a "Leave"
12:14 AM -News-, Fleetwood Mac, Lindsey Buckingham
by Paul Cashmere, Noise11

Lindsey Buckingham has spoken about his departure from Fleetwood Mac for the first time calling it “leave” rather than being fired although he also said that he didn’t walk, he was pushed.

Buckingham, a staunch Democrat, was appearing at a fundraiser for California congress candidate Mike Levin on Friday night when he told the audience. “It’s been an interesting time on a lot of levels. For me, personally, probably some of you know that for the last three months I have sadly taken leave of my band of 43 years, Fleetwood Mac. This was not something that was really my doing or my choice.”

Buckingham said that the band has lost its way. “I think what you would say is that there were factions within the band that had lost their perspective,” he said. “The point is that they’d lost their perspective. What that did was to harm – and this is the only I’m really sad about, the rest of it becomes an opportunity – it harmed the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build, and that legacy was really about rising above difficulties in order to fulfil one’s higher truth and one’s higher destiny.”

Lindsey was replaced by two new members, Neil Finn of Split Enz and Crowded House fame and Mike Campbell from Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers.

In 2015 he was adamant that the current Fleetwood Mac tour would be the final Fleetwood Mac tour but then the rest of the band decided to lap the planet one more time.

Buckingham’s “taken leave” comment suggests that at some time in the future he will be back. However age is not on his side for that. Mick Fleetwood is now 70, John McVie is 72, Christine McVie is 74 and Stevie Nicks is 69.

jwd 05-13-2018 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1227818)
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. Life isn’t that black and white.

Okay. I can't make my point any clearer. If you can't, or won't see it, then so be it. Sometimes it IS that black and white.

BombaySapphire3 05-13-2018 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1227820)
http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2018...as-pushed.html

Lindsey Buckingham Says He Was Pushed Out of Fleetwood Mac But Thinks of It As a "Leave"




Buckingham’s “taken leave” comment suggests that at some time in the future he will be back. However age is not on his side for that. Mick Fleetwood is now 70, John McVie is 72, Christine McVie is 74 and Stevie Nicks is 69.

Unless Stevie fails to live up to her prediction that she will live into the triple digits and suddenly croaks( and no I'm not referring to her current vocal range) then I think Lindsey will never be invited back into Fleetwood Mac.

Dr.Brown 05-13-2018 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jwd (Post 1227821)
Okay. I can't make my point any clearer. If you can't, or won't see it, then so be it. Sometimes it IS that black and white.


jwd 05-13-2018 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Brown (Post 1227828)

Yes, you either do or you don't! Love OOTC! Was listening to it this past week. How, or why that album didn't get more recognition is beyond me. I think it's a masterpiece!

dreamsunwind 05-13-2018 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1227825)
Unless Stevie fails to live up to her prediction that she will live into the triple digits and suddenly croaks( and no I'm not referring to her current vocal range) then I think Lindsey will never be invited back into Fleetwood Mac.

Well when he first left after Tango (and this was much closer to the worst times in their history) she was jumping with joy then flash forward a couple of years and she's crying that their relationship is dead and that he no longer speaks to her. So honestly anything is possible, especially with someone like Stevie who changes her mind a lot and is naturally dramatic (I also believe she's not been in a normal headspace since TP died). But it's true that their age isn't helping.

Jondalar 05-13-2018 01:00 AM

I just feel sorry for Lindsey. Creativity is like a river. You have to let it flow to grow. Some band members just didn’t care about the artistry anymore. They stopped the flow. They fell into formula. Lindsey needs to find another group of people who actually care about creativity. This group is really done and has been since the 1980s.

secondhandchain 05-13-2018 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1227836)
I just feel sorry for Lindsey. Creativity is like a river. You have to let it flow to grow. Some band members just didn’t care about the artistry anymore. They stopped the flow. They fell into formula. Lindsey needs to find another group of people who actually care about creativity. This group is really done and has been since the 1980s.

On this we agree 100 percent. LB wanted FM to be creative. You know who just wanted to tour and get adulation and cash. I think if LB wasn't so great to be around the last year or so, THAT was the reason why. He does NOT want to be just an oldies act.

HomerMcvie 05-13-2018 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jwd (Post 1227805)
That's called playing both sides of the fence in my world. If she sees it the way a lot of fans, at least on this forum see it, she would have done something to stop it.....or jumped ship. Otherwise she's agreeing with the bands' decision.

I agree completely. She's THE ONE who could have stopped this sh*t show from happening. I've never been more disappointed in any human being. My lifelong favorite is no longer that.

Where's the bitch that doesn't take any sh*t, that slaps you and chucks a glass of wine in your face, and tells you that you're wearing a stupid, f*cking shirt? What happened to her? Oh yeah, she's old now...but still....she COULD have stopped it.

It'll be too late for another Buck Vie, by the time this crap tour is done. :(

jwd 05-13-2018 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1227840)
I agree completely. She's THE ONE who could have stopped this sh*t show from happening. I've never been more disappointed in any human being. My lifelong favorite is no longer that.

Where's the bitch that doesn't take any sh*t, that slaps you and chucks a glass of wine in your face, and tells you that you're wearing a stupid, f*cking shirt? What happened to her? Oh yeah, she's old now...but still....she COULD have stopped it.

It'll be too late for another Buck Vie, by the time this crap tour is done. :(

I hope you're wrong. If there's one reconciliation Lindsey makes, I hope it's with Chris. They are so good together.

jwd 05-13-2018 02:15 AM

From Lindsey's perspective, I think this sums it up.



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