Originally Posted by dreamsunwind (Post 1221575)

I personally disagree; they survived probably the most horrible personal fights. For this to happen I think it was a business conflict and whoever in charge basically showing that they care about money more than loyalty.

Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1221595)

If this is over scheduling solo gigs along with the Mac tour, its outrageous the way Lindsey is being treated. First mistake, NEVER sign and be contractually obligated for a tour 2 years away. That's just dumb.
The band totally caters to Stevie's plans and tours. If Christine or Stevie did this, there would not be any speculation of replacing either of them for a tour. Why is Lindsey treated different and collateral damage?
1987 Lindsey shelved his solo album to bring Mick out of bankruptcy for Tango
2013 Lindsey agreed to another back to back world tour to welcome back Christine
2016/17 Lindsey tired of waiting for Stevie to join them records with Christine and does a tour
2018 Lindsey asks for a little time to promote his solo album? And the band goes on without him? Replace him?
Give me a break. If any of this is true, its obscene :eek:

Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1221589)

I agree with DreamsUnwind and BigAl...this scenario makes a lot of sense. I would add that reviews of the 2 stadium dates FM did last year suggested LB seemed unhappy or frustrated, and he himself acknowledged he only did them because he was contracted to, perhaps because the 2 dates interrupted his Buck/Vie tour. Maybe FM felt his attitude would continue during the tour, with LB happier during his solo tour, and then being unhappy performing with FM? Or maybe LB quit FM like he did in 1987?

I really don't believe it was a case of wanting to simply rearrange a few dates... heck, the other members would probably appreciate a few days off during the tour! True, the band used to be inflexible, such as letting SN only perform a dozen cities for her first solo tour, so she could record Mirage. But then they significantly shortened their Mirage tour for LB, so they did loosen up, especially in the last 20 years, allowing CM to leave and come back. If LB is out, it was not something as simple as rearranging a few tour dates, and it could even be his decision.

Originally Posted by DreamIsOver (Post 1221600)

I know it's hard to give Mick the benefit of the doubt, but it is entirely possible he - and John and Christine - are siding with Lindsey on whatever issue Stevie has which would explain the silence on the tour and Mick's "when words fail" post. Maybe Stevie and her camp have been trying to sell Mick on this Mike Campbell idea for a couple months and now leaked it to try to force Mick's hand.

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1221601)

But all of this came out because Billy said Mick told him he had fired Lindsey. He's subsequently doubled down on this.
The dream is indeed over.

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1221601)

But all of this came out because Billy said Mick told him he had fired Lindsey. He's subsequently doubled down on this.
The dream is indeed over.

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1221601)

But all of this came out because Billy said Mick told him he had fired Lindsey. He's subsequently doubled down on this.
The dream is indeed over.

Originally Posted by In Your Dreams (Post 1221603)

Billy's post doesn't mention he heard this from Mick from what I've seen posted.

I wonder if the reason we haven't heard anything official is because things are trying to be worked out and nothing final has been decided. I thought Chis mentioned awhile back that they all signed on for this tour. So maybe there was some backpedaling by Lindsey around timing and all things are being discussed based on contracts. They are basically covering all possible scenarios if in fact they are contractually obligated to tour this year. This could be a back up plan or worst case scenario that is being discussed in the event things can't be delayed or worked out.

Originally Posted by DreamIsOver (Post 1221604)

By the way, my username is not intended and should not be read as any sort of commentary on this situation. I've used the same handle on music boards like the Steve Hoffman Forum and the Van Halen links for over 15 years.

Originally Posted by Lola (Post 1221607)

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/thread...743787/page-14

This thread is back up in case anyone didn't get a chance to read it before. Trying to think outside the box here--maybe the Heartbreakers will tour with FM instead of it being a Lindsey or Mike situation. I'm sure Stevie and Mike are devastated over Tom's death. This could be a way for them to work together and pay tribute to Tom. Stevie can sing with FM and do a few songs with the Heartbreakers. I don't even know how this would work, just trying to imagine something besides LB was fired.