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Ive been listening again recently to her Bella Donna tour concert (1981) and was reminded how much Rhiannon even then had already become very tame and middle-aged. No spark at all; all canned. Yes, I know that wasn't FM, but it's her song and she could have done it anyway she wished without the burden of FM, and she went with a watered down version that really isn't that different to The Dance version. Things spiced up a bit as the coke habit grew more intense, but she had already lost her ability to do Rhiannon as originally done (without mountains of coke) by the early 80s. Even Dreams had grown lame by then too. |
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i'm pointing out that the 2 LB/LBT versions of the Chain - backstage acoustic and then live one - are fantastic. as a response to that you keep saying but but but but but....... there are different wilder better versions out there, by the classic Mac themselves, when they were young, high and free from any scripts. nobody is arguing that or trying to compare all those versions but you. and you are doing that because you cannot argue that LB/LBT version is not fantastic. :) |
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The live versions of all songs were changed during the Dance era. I would not call it "watering" down although I can see why someone would say that. Fleetwood Mac like bands in the late 90s used technology that helped them create a live sound much more similar to the album versions. Stevie's Stop Draggin My Heart Around in 2017 had very little rock edge compared to her early 80's versions. Over My Head used to rock in the 70s when they played it. When the Mac started playing it again in the late 90s, that arena rock sound was gone and we got something similar to the album version.
I have always said I loved arena rock and 1990 was the last of it with the Mac as well as other bands. I much prefer the raw rocking sound compared to the tame technology based sound. |
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I hate it that bands decided they had to sound exactly like the albums. Adding an orchestra of players/playing with tracks. Mirage was the last time they were even close to being an actual BAND. |
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I hate how The Chain was played on the Evening with Fleetwood Mac In Concert Tour. I saw 3 shows. Mike's solo sounded like a high school battle of the bands. Also Neil had no captivating stage activity. He jumped around. So does Nils Lofgren. He got up on Mick's drum platform which was a copy of Lindsey, except he didn't play the cymbals. Maybe Neil didn't crank it up bc they're not his songs. When I saw them do his song I Got You, he did this weird tag game with Stevie and I couldn't wait for the song to end. Some folks on this platform think they're the be all and end all of everything FM. Send in your application to Stubner and sheryl louis already, right? |
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haha re some folks offering themselves up for jobs in mac PR. i had the same thought reading some of those posts, especially when someone is twisting themselves into pretzels and throwing away any shreds of credibility trying to prove something they cannot really believe to be true. |
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My take has been that the bands were older, the audience was older, there were less drugs and the ticket prices were much much higher. Middle-aged (and now senior citizen) baby boomers had, and were willing to shell out, larger dollars to see their heroes and relive a piece of their youth for one night...but were going to be a lot more critical of bands playing loose with the live performances. I don't know if I'm right at all, but just a theory I have had on it. Personally, as someone who was born two months after those last Tusk shows at the Hollywood Bowl, it's a hell of a lot more interesting today listening to bootlegs off of the Tusk Tour with their varied approaches and outputs vs. any bootleg off of the Say You Will or On With the Show Tours with their standardized, sanitized, and consistent performances. Of course, the band isn't really going to a give a crap about me listening on YouTube vs. the paying audience getting their one night at the local hockey rink with their favorite band sounding "just like they did 40 years ago!" Compare Over My Head from Live to the performance on The Dance DVD. Blah to the latter. |
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Totally with you on the mini band too. I think in 89 they added Lisa, Bernard, Chuck. Now, I think they added more horns and they actually have 2 keyboard players. Maybe that was just to play She's a Rainbow:D |
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