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Macfan4life 07-17-2017 12:36 PM

Love it. Really amazing to watch Chris play that piano. That style of piano was a last for the 1982 tour. They had a real piano on the 1987 tour but it was a grand piano. It was an end to an era.

jbrownsjr 07-17-2017 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1213975)
Love it. Really amazing to watch Chris play that piano. That style of piano was a last for the 1982 tour. They had a real piano on the 1987 tour but it was a grand piano. It was an end to an era.

I miss her playing the upright piano..

Macfan4life 07-20-2017 05:49 PM

No one noticed Stevie botched the first verse and sang the 3rd verse first? Actually this was quite common. When I saw her during the Wild Heart tour she also dropped the first verse. It really confused me :eek:

bombaysaffires 07-20-2017 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1214192)
No one noticed Stevie botched the first verse and sang the 3rd verse first? Actually this was quite common. When I saw her during the Wild Heart tour she also dropped the first verse. It really confused me :eek:

and her face when she realizes it is priceless:lol:

TheWildHeart67 07-20-2017 05:59 PM

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No one noticed Stevie botched the first verse and sang the 3rd verse first? Actually this was quite common. When I saw her during the Wild Heart tour she also dropped the first verse. It really confused me
Coke is one hell of a drug!
Seriously though, I don't think this performance is as bad as some are saying.
I do agree it was recorded/mixed very poorly.

TheWildHeart67 07-20-2017 06:11 PM

I'm wondering with the mixing and recording so botched, if we will truly get this official release, we've been promised. And if we DO, I wonder how much better it will sound when professionally remixed and remastered.

On Ice 07-21-2017 08:06 AM

After the "right" and "me" were dropped lower, the entire song suffered and never translated well live since, even so, they played it too fast on the Rumours tour. Stevie has never really put much passion into it either, which has always boggled my mind given its stature. But this is awful and tortuous to this great song, a combination of coke and sloppiness lead to this. I've always thought if they were to continue playing their only #1 single and honouring it instead of rushing through it, it needed a new arrangement. These bad performances of Dreams were really a slap in the face to fans both committed and casual- "one" of the biggest missteps the band has made by allowing her to ruin Dreams. Sorry, had to say it.:(

SisterNightroad 07-21-2017 08:11 AM

I actually like their crude Mirage Tour performances, especially Dreams that is exactly half between the sound of the Bella Donna and Wild Heart Tour performances; the only Dreams performances I like the least are some from the Tusk Tour.

This particular venue is sloppier than others because of the technical problems that in fact were present also the subsequent year, and because the band was performing in a pretty tight schedule.
I remember an interesting interview with Steve Wozniac saying that Fleetwood Mac did just like David Bowie in the 1983 edition, they initially were hesitant to attend because they would have had to sandwich their performance between two close dates of their tour and it would have been difficult to transport them and all the necessary staff and equipment to San Bernardino and then back onto another state in time; ultimately Wozniac offered 2 Millions to convince them and they ended up rescheduling their dates, if I remember well they supposedly arrived with special aircraft, performed and then left again all just in the nick of time and without sleeping anytime in between; apparently it was a pretty nice anecdote but it wasn't so well known because it's been overshadowed by that of Bowie's 3 millions performance of the year after.

However the soundboard audio of these performances is not unreleased, it's actually been circulating for some time and I had posted it here, with the exception of the last two songs that are from an audience recording: http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showth...89#post1173189

Finally, I'm sure the official release will happen because from what I know everything's ready and the director that handles everything is pretty known and serious, from the last communication I've read basically some artists' representants are playing bidding games.

aleuzzi 07-21-2017 10:10 AM

Her singing on the first half sounded warm and very effective. But by the second verse and chorus she's oversinging in the same pitch. The harmonies are a brief, welcome change of color.

That said, she looks fantastic and I'll bet in-person this went down beautifully.

Macfan4life 07-21-2017 10:42 AM

I also admit I love these sloppier performances. There are so many quirks that you would not see/hear today. Its rare for Lindsey to mess up but during Gypsy he misses his back up cue and Christine is backing only for a bit. The Mac closed the US Festival which was a long day. I can only imagine the partying that went on back stage before this concert. Its actually fun to find the quirks in each song.

HomerMcvie 07-21-2017 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1214264)
I also admit I love these sloppier performances. There are so many quirks that you would not see/hear today. Its rare for Lindsey to mess up but during Gypsy he misses his back up cue and Christine is backing only for a bit. The Mac closed the US Festival which was a long day. I can only imagine the partying that went on back stage before this concert. Its actually fun to find the quirks in each song.

Yep. This whole "we don't have warts" mentality we have now, sucks.

It was a whole lot more interesting hearing the occasional mistake, and what 4 musicians could actually play, without karaoke tracks.:mad:

Lola 07-21-2017 02:20 PM

What I'd like to know is what got them to the point where everything is so meticulously rehearsed. I know there's been discussion about filling in the sound with the backup musicians/singers but I remember reading here once about Lindsey having to start Tusk over on the last tour and he had to start in the exact same spot on the stage! These are talented people-they can work around a glitch or two. I'm ok with a few mistakes or ad libs and I think most fans are too.

WatchChain 07-21-2017 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SisterNightroad (Post 1214253)
if I remember well they supposedly arrived with special aircraft, performed and then left again all just in the nick of time and without sleeping anytime in between;

Cool! I wonder where they got the energy and stamina to travel without sleeping and perform another date NON STOP with very little rest? I love the Mac, they are real troopers for their fans!

Macfan4life 07-21-2017 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lola (Post 1214275)
What I'd like to know is what got them to the point where everything is so meticulously rehearsed. I know there's been discussion about filling in the sound with the backup musicians/singers but I remember reading here once about Lindsey having to start Tusk over on the last tour and he had to start in the exact same spot on the stage! These are talented people-they can work around a glitch or two. I'm ok with a few mistakes or ad libs and I think most fans are too.

I would use the word programmed instead of rehearsed. Bands have always rehearsed. Today there are computer monitors with lyrics, back up singers, pre-programmed keyboards, and Lord knows what else.
I have said this before but the Mirage tour was the last Mac tour of just pure and raw arena rock. In 1987 came back up singers, added percussionists, etc. The Dance created a studio sound at their live concerts. Its technology in the modern age of music. But I miss the arena rock and the unpredictability that comes with it. There are so many flubs on this US Festival concert. The opener Chain has almost a complete break down after the bass solo until the band catches its groove back to finish the song. Its almost like being at a rehearsal. This is how rock n roll is supposed to be.

bombaysaffires 07-21-2017 04:39 PM

she clearly is having some difficulty hearing herself as she keeps fiddling with her ear.... they didn't have in-ear monitors then, just the speaker monitors on the floor in front of you, and those often drowned out by all the amplifiers behind you from all the instruments... or you can't hear the other singers.... and you end up straining your voice.

Lola 07-21-2017 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1214284)
I would use the word programmed instead of rehearsed. Bands have always rehearsed. Today there are computer monitors with lyrics, back up singers, pre-programmed keyboards, and Lord knows what else.
I have said this before but the Mirage tour was the last Mac tour of just pure and raw arena rock. In 1987 came back up singers, added percussionists, etc. The Dance created a studio sound at their live concerts. Its technology in the modern age of music. But I miss the arena rock and the unpredictability that comes with it. There are so many flubs on this US Festival concert. The opener Chain has almost a complete break down after the bass solo until the band catches its groove back to finish the song. Its almost like being at a rehearsal. This is how rock n roll is supposed to be.

Programmed instead of rehearsed--you did a better job of describing it. :xoxo:

gldstwmn 07-22-2017 11:35 AM

Hoo boy. The best thing about this is Lindsey's beautifully tailored clothing. What got thrown on stage? Is Stevie wearing an ear monitor? She's high AF. She and Chris look great though.

bombaysaffires 07-22-2017 02:36 PM

"highness" is relative... I mean I tended to think she seemed mostly ok on this one-- she was well aware she mucked up the verses, and I love how she gets that embarrassed "oh ****" look on her face and tries to hide by putting her arms on her head. She didn't get overly distracted (just a bit) by whatever someone threw on the stage toward her....... there are shows where she's just singing gibberish and clearly doesn't even realize it, etc....... she got much, much worse as time went on.....

as for the band "letting" her take some notes lower--- what are they gonna do, put a gun to her head? If she can't reach the notes, she can't reach the notes. Tweak the song to save the show and not have everyone talking afterwards in reviews and such about how badly she missed a high note.

Danielle 08-03-2017 07:54 PM

Rhiannon - US Festival, 1982
 

dreamsunwind 08-03-2017 08:30 PM

The sound on all these videos sucks ass. Upsetting that when they're finally being released it's in this wonky sound quality.

That being said, I love how Mick's drums and Lindsey's guitar sound at the opening of the song. Stevie sounds quite good too, but then idk if it's the sound or her voice cracking or whatever, the ending is kinda rough, sounds more like she's just shouting instead of singing. Christine's harmony tho....yikes.

SisterNightroad 08-04-2017 03:25 PM

I've always wanted to see this video and I'm not disappointed, in its rawness it's still fabulous.

jbrownsjr 08-04-2017 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SisterNightroad (Post 1214874)
I've always wanted to see this video and I'm not disappointed, in its rawness it's still fabulous.

Same here... and the sound is only one speaker....

I don't need it to be perfect. Raw is always better for me. The harmonies on most of these have been off.

TheWildHeart67 08-04-2017 07:32 PM

HELL YES! Thanks for posting!!!!!!!! :xoxo::]:blob2:

jwd 08-04-2017 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Danielle (Post 1214819)

Her voice sounds like ****, as in most of her Us Festival performances. Drugs and booze starting to take their toll.

SisterNightroad 08-05-2017 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1214876)
Raw is always better for me.

https://i.giphy.com/media/XRBl2zuuAa1Z6/giphy.webp

David 08-13-2017 09:42 PM

A friend of mine said these US Festival videos should have been on the Mirage deluxe release.

I said, no, they should have BEEN the Mirage deluxe release.

TheWildHeart67 08-13-2017 09:45 PM

I would have been happy with the HBO show on DVD on the "mirage" deluxe

SisterNightroad 09-22-2017 04:00 PM

New video of Love in Store!
 
New video of Love in Store!


I merged all the threads about the Vevo channel Us festival videos in this one so they can be found more easily.

HomerMcvie 09-22-2017 04:44 PM

^^^

I love it!

Especially without all the overdubs they did for the Mirage video.

Wdm6789 09-22-2017 06:22 PM

Ugh, finally. They are taking forever with these uploads. Great video, but I think I like the Mirage video better. I really want Sara and Hold Me. How long have we been waiting for a Hold Me live video from 1982? And I really want a Sara live from 1982.

bwboy 09-22-2017 07:59 PM

The few clips I've seen from the U.S. festival, I much more prefer over the Mirage concert. But I noticed in both performances of Love in Store just how much Stevie enjoys singing that song, even mouthing the words when she's not at the mike. That's cool to see, and a compliment to Christine, that Stevie liked the song so much.

iamnotafraid 09-23-2017 02:25 AM

SisterNightroad,
How much longer is our wait for the blu ray?

SisterNightroad 09-23-2017 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1216848)
SisterNightroad,
How much longer is our wait for the blu ray?

You can read here the last update about the film release: http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showth...11#post1215011

September is almost over, I wonder now what could have happened to the director to further slow things down.

Macfan4life 09-24-2017 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1216842)
The few clips I've seen from the U.S. festival, I much more prefer over the Mirage concert. But I noticed in both performances of Love in Store just how much Stevie enjoys singing that song, even mouthing the words when she's not at the mike. That's cool to see, and a compliment to Christine, that Stevie liked the song so much.

We all love this song and want it back in the set.
Its such a great sing along song with all 3 vocalists.

TheWildHeart67 09-24-2017 08:14 AM

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We all love this song and want it back in the set.
Its such a great sing along song with all 3 vocalists.
I also LOVE "Love in store." Fantastic in concert. I also have always loved "Eyes of the world" in concert.

Fiver 10-31-2018 02:25 AM

Picture quality not as good as the rest but I'll take it:


jbrownsjr 10-31-2018 07:47 AM

Thanks Fiver! What a great version of Songbird.


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