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secondhandchain 11-27-2018 02:08 AM

Casual Mac fans find out the hard way
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KChdWmVD_A

HomerMcvie 11-27-2018 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1244600)

That was a pretty spot on piece. Thanks for posting it!

FuzzyPlum 11-27-2018 05:16 PM

I'm getting a bit bored with this feller.
I get the impression he's latched onto Fleetwood Mac for guaranteed hits and subscribers. I appreciate he's a Fleetwood Mac fan but suddenly every other video he makes is a commentary on Fleetwood Mac. He knows what he's doing. And though I agree with a lot of what he says.... he also says a lot of $&!T too.

sodascouts 11-28-2018 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1244622)
I'm getting a bit bored with this feller.
I get the impression he's latched onto Fleetwood Mac for guaranteed hits and subscribers. I appreciate he's a Fleetwood Mac fan but suddenly every other video he makes is a commentary on Fleetwood Mac. He knows what he's doing. And though I agree with a lot of what he says.... he also says a lot of $&!T too.

I got bored with him a long time ago. He's not really that knowledgeable about the band - he acts like he's an expert when he's clearly not. He has no insider knowledge; he has no credibility beyond that of your average YouTube commentator with a webcam (ie, zero). I don't know why people keep creating a thread every time he posts a Mac-related video.

SteveMacD 11-28-2018 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1244622)
I'm getting a bit bored with this feller.
I get the impression he's latched onto Fleetwood Mac for guaranteed hits and subscribers. I appreciate he's a Fleetwood Mac fan but suddenly every other video he makes is a commentary on Fleetwood Mac. He knows what he's doing. And though I agree with a lot of what he says.... he also says a lot of $&!T too.

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Originally Posted by sodascouts (Post 1244649)
I got bored with him a long time ago. He's not really that knowledgeable about the band - he acts like he's an expert when he's clearly not. He has no insider knowledge; he has no credibility beyond that of your average YouTube commentator with a webcam (ie, zero). I don't know why people keep creating a thread every time he posts a Mac-related video.

Completely agree with these.

jmn3 11-28-2018 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1244651)
Completely agree with these.

I’m with all of you on this guy. He posts something about FM daily - sometimes multiple times. For awhile i figured this guy has to be a Ledgie because he talks about the band so much. Now I’m convinced he’s just a hack who gets most of his knowledge from here and via YT comments. Seriously, a thread pops up here and the next day he’s blabbing on and on about the same thing. While I mostly agree with what he’s saying about the present incarnation of the band and what went down with Lindsey’s firing, I’ve grown to immensely dislike this clown and his videos. Dude is obsessed with Fleetwood Mac and Journey (or with the views he gets by continuing to post about them) and just posts random rant videos daily. I followed him for a little while and quickly realized he’s a hack and has no better knowledge of these bands than anyone else with internet access.

jbrownsjr 11-28-2018 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1244622)
I'm getting a bit bored with this feller.
I get the impression he's latched onto Fleetwood Mac for guaranteed hits and subscribers. I appreciate he's a Fleetwood Mac fan but suddenly every other video he makes is a commentary on Fleetwood Mac. He knows what he's doing. And though I agree with a lot of what he says.... he also says a lot of $&!T too.

I concur. :thumbsup:

secondhandchain 11-28-2018 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1244658)
I concur. :thumbsup:

But he's right. MOST casual fans had no idea what they were getting when they went to see FM. That penguin logo with NO pic was a huge indicator of what they were up to. As I said I know a bunch of people who were upset when they went to the concert and discovered there was no LB.

cbBen 11-28-2018 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1244669)
That penguin logo with NO pic was a huge indicator

Yes, even though they list the names (in relatively small type, and in a semi-circle), failing to picture the current band membership is an act of obfuscation and bad faith.

jbrownsjr 11-28-2018 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1244669)
But he's right. MOST casual fans had no idea what they were getting when they went to see FM. That penguin logo with NO pic was a huge indicator of what they were up to. As I said I know a bunch of people who were upset when they went to the concert and discovered there was no LB.

I don't disagree with him. I just think he's a douche bag.

sodascouts 11-28-2018 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1244675)
I don't disagree with him. I just think he's a douche bag.

My thoughts exactly.

cbBen 11-28-2018 10:23 PM

Just My Two Cents
 
I like him.

He's done Fleetwood Mac-related videos in the past, including praising the Buckingham McVie album when it came out. He's even talked about how the first album he ever bought was the 1975 Fleetwood Mac album.

He's not an expert on all the minutiae, but gets the broad strokes more or less right.

jbrownsjr 11-28-2018 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sodascouts (Post 1244676)
My thoughts exactly.

I always love when we agree Nancy.. like once every 3 years.. :xoxo:

$tevie made us allies. :laugh:

DownOnRodeo 11-29-2018 07:52 PM

I don't have a problem with these videos being posted if they're pertinent--just as long as there are some hints in the thread title or at least the post itself about what the video is.

Just personally, this kind of "loud, excited person talking at me through YouTube" thing isn't my cup of tea regardless of the content, but I had to click on this link to find out what the video was at all.

NurseDJackson 12-03-2018 03:20 AM

What's a casual Mac fan? Those people who work for various corporations who buy up boxes in stadiums? The folks who drop HUNDREDS of bucks without really looking at who's playing with a band? The "casual fan" who likes Fleetwood Mac because they scored the best tickets in their subdivision is a casual fan who deserves to be surprised when s/he doesn't know the line-up has changed. Caveat emptor, I guess, though it was mainstream news and social media for WEEKS—dozens of outlets, facebook, twitter, etc... The casual fan who wonders "where the guy is" isn't a real thing. It's utter nonsense what this guy is saying!!

The stuff about there being no melodic rock and how senior citizens are tasked with this "old thing" so many love? SPOT ON. The other part is s t r e t c h e d beyond logic.... Guy's welcome to share his thoughts, but it is interesting/troubling how "Real Music Observer" seems to come up with various permutations of Googling "Fleetwood Mac"—there isn't much fact behind the opinions and they're presented as if legitimate and backed up, as if he's making vaguely legal arguments...hmmmm. Again, that's dude's prerogative...his opinions seem similar to much of this message board and runs counter what what I've been hearing/seeing from a variety of people who've attended recent shows. Go figure.


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