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cbBen 11-10-2019 01:26 AM

Who Expects This Band To Carry On After This Week?
 
Is this the end of the line?

snroxman 11-10-2019 08:44 AM

Good question. It definitely feels like the end. The last ticketed event is in Las Vegas on 11/16. The next (and AFAIK last) date for the group appears to be on 11/20, for a benefit show, during the Dreamforce 2019 conference.

FM77 11-10-2019 09:18 AM

It is over.

sue 11-10-2019 12:08 PM

I hope so....enough.
Of course a lot depends on the state of Micks’ Bank balance.

sleepless child 11-10-2019 03:37 PM

I wonder also. It's billed as the last concert, but we know how things change. I'm torn over going. I've boycotted over how Lindsey was treated, but a part of me still wants to go. So far I've just looked at tickets online. I have pushed the button yet.

vivfox 11-10-2019 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FM77 (Post 1254835)
It is over.

You were the same person who told us Iovine would present Stevie with her Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame Nomination. What do you know? Not much probably. If it were the last tour FM would have billed it as a Farewell Tour. As long as they all live and are healthy after Stevie finishes her next tour, my best guess is they will have a FM farewell tour. Hopefully will include Lindsey.

Villavic 11-10-2019 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FM77 (Post 1254835)
It is over.

Oh don't say that :distress: . I'm hoping next year they'll re release Rumours in reel-to-reel tape format...
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CbMAA...3Nl/s-l300.jpg
https://img.discogs.com/_eZ_DqyHrH6f...-7291.jpeg.jpg

or at least the 8-track tape format.
https://img.discogs.com/Tqc2k9DToa0K...-8073.jpeg.jpg

And if we are very very lucky, we'll get Mirage Tour Laser Disc by Christmas 2020

https://img.discogs.com/25cpgDwsZyF5...62510.jpeg.jpg

David 11-10-2019 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cbBen (Post 1254832)
Is this the end of the line?

If you’re talking about this lineup, I don’t think there’s anything else they can or need to say. They’ve been doing their Vegasy shows for about a year and a half — unless they want to continue bringing the circus to a “town near you” for years to come, or plant themselves in Vegas for a very long engagement.
Otherwise, they seem to be done. What would they do while Stevie Nicks is on the road for 2020—21?

The only thing I can think of (and I’d rather not) is Fleetwood Mac morphing yet again into another lineup — to do what, I don’t know. You need names to tour big league the way they’ve been doing for two years, so if you’re going to hire more people, you’d better find names. This band seems to have no further interest in a studio life, so all they can do is be year-round entertainers. I used to cringe when they’d saturate the market, but no more — every show they do is a supersaturation point.

Fleetwood Mac is life-supported to the boomers. “Buckingham McVie” doesn’t seem quite the right way to go out for a titan such as Fleetwood Mac. Melodic as it is, that album is kind of inconsequential, breaks no new ground, and musically retreads 1980s high points. Its a genteel little album whose purpose seems to be dipping its dainty little feetsies in a hot tub of nostalgia.

elle 11-11-2019 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cbBen (Post 1254832)
Is this the end of the line?

hope so. they should stop tarnishing their name.

Storms123 11-11-2019 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cbBen (Post 1254832)
Is this the end of the line?

One can only hope. With Stevie off on her own for a year or so (how ever long her alleged solo tour is), Mike and Neil doing their own thing. Mike also has sounded very non commital to anything further with them, John doesn't seem to be taking part in the Peter Green/Early FM gig, which is very odd imo---if and when they decide to perhaps mount something again, Christine could potentially be pushing 80. That's not gonna sound good

Neb-Maat-Re 11-11-2019 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1254843)
Oh don't say that :distress: . I'm hoping next year they'll re release Rumours in reel-to-reel tape format...
https://img.discogs.com/_eZ_DqyHrH6f...-7291.jpeg.jpg

Ah, the greatly speculated lost quad mix ...

Macfan4life 11-12-2019 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1254843)
Oh don't say that :distress: . I'm hoping next year they'll re release Rumours in reel-to-reel tape format...
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CbMAA...3Nl/s-l300.jpg
https://img.discogs.com/_eZ_DqyHrH6f...-7291.jpeg.jpg

or at least the 8-track tape format.
https://img.discogs.com/Tqc2k9DToa0K...-8073.jpeg.jpg

And if we are very very lucky, we'll get Mirage Tour Laser Disc by Christmas 2020

https://img.discogs.com/25cpgDwsZyF5...62510.jpeg.jpg

Now THAT was funny :)

Dragon 11-12-2019 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cbBen (Post 1254832)
Is this the end of the line?

It will be awhile before we see Fleetwood Mac again. Neil Finn is reactivating Crowded House. Mike Campbell is finishing a studio album with his band, the Dirty Knobs.

FM77 11-12-2019 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1254839)
You were the same person who told us Iovine would present Stevie with her Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame Nomination. What do you know? Not much probably. If it were the last tour FM would have billed it as a Farewell Tour. As long as they all live and are healthy after Stevie finishes her next tour, my best guess is they will have a FM farewell tour. Hopefully will include Lindsey.

Please post a link where I stated that as fact. I guessed like everyone else. Please for love of God---give up on LB. I definitely know more than you but that isn't saying much. :laugh:

button-lip 11-12-2019 10:31 PM

It is the end. Stevie finally got what she wanted: on one hand to get rid of Lindsey, and on the other hand to be the only lead of a band she never loved. :nod::nod:

This is the legacy she wants for the band. She couldn't care less about FM fans.

BombaySapphire3 11-12-2019 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cbBen (Post 1254832)
Is this the end of the line?

If it isn't it should be. I have a difficult time imagining that they won't milk the "Farewell Tour " teat as long as they all still draw breath though.

jbrownsjr 11-13-2019 02:34 PM

It all depends on who is alive in Summer of 2021.

missundercover 11-14-2019 11:42 AM

Sad - but true.

Maybe it will lead to enjoying what is and what we got from that band instead of missing what isn't and what we didn't get.

sodascouts 11-18-2019 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1254886)
It all depends on who is alive in Summer of 2021.

And who is on speaking terms.

aleuzzi 11-18-2019 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1254845)
“Buckingham McVie” doesn’t seem quite the right way to go out for a titan such as Fleetwood Mac. Melodic as it is, that album is kind of inconsequential, breaks no new ground, and musically retreads 1980s high points. Its a genteel little album whose purpose seems to be dipping its dainty little feetsies in a hot tub of nostalgia.

You're probably right. More than anything else, "Buckingham McVie" serves as a reminder of one aspect of its participant's legacy--elegant, effervescent pop-songcraft. It is, in part, a tribute to MIRAGE and some portions of TANGO; it is also a testament to the collaborative powers of its two leads. But the overall effect of the album feels boutique-y, deliberately minor in scope and scale, as if through coy modesty two richly talented singer-songwriter-instrumentalists remind the world that they are as hooky and clever as kids 45 years younger. Stevie's refusal to participate and the remaining four's fear to call it Fleetwood Mac in her absence meant the pressure was off and they could simply play together. It's all very creative and fun, but a certain intensity is lacking.

I do think the album might also have felt more substantial had it not really been blending of two distinct projects: the first a collaboration between Lindsey, John, and Mick meant to entice Stevie to return to the studio for a suitable follow up to SAY YOU WILL; the second a near-as-Mac-as-you-can-get suite of Christine songs sans Stevie. Christine's absence on Lindsey five tracks is my only real beef with the project. That, and the "freedom in my mouth" line from the collection's otherwise best song.

jbrownsjr 11-18-2019 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sodascouts (Post 1254916)
And who is on speaking terms.

Maybe Neil Finn since he's "the guy" and best singing partner for her. ;) :distress:

button-lip 11-18-2019 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1254918)
Maybe Neil Finn since he's "the guy" and best singing partner for her. ;) :distress:

Honestly, she has known the guy for a year and all of a sudden he's "the best singing partner" for her? Finn must have internally rolled his eyes so hard! :lol:

So, basically Lindsey meant nothing in her life. Not romantically and not profesionally speaking. Maybe now she will finally stop mentioning him. Finally. :rolleyes:

WatchChain 11-18-2019 11:30 PM

Despite how valid the Lindsey/Stevie feud has been, a small part of me still thinks this entire drama is one huge PR stunt staged by managers with the hope of launching another "The Dance" style REUNION. But, now a pesky little heart attack has left everything in limbo.

Picture it, Lindsey is tired of playing the same old rinse, wash, repeat set list with Fleetwood Mac. He needs a break, but doesn't want to throw away his cash cow forever. Stevie and Mick, ever the cash grabbers, can't stand to just sit home. Stevie's friend Mike, who has just lost his cash cow (Tom Petty), needs to keep busy. Mick's friend Neil (who had two hit songs over 30 years ago) just needs some money. Enter management--let's stage yet another "feud" within a band already known for drama. Lindsey gets a break for solo material from "the small machine", Mick and Stevie get to keep touring and throw in some pre75 tunes, a couple of sidemen make some money----PRESTO! Everyone is happy.

Fast forward to 2022. It's time for a DANCE STYLE REUNION that will double as a FAREWELL TOUR with the 5 members of the Rumours lineup. We can have long, teary eyed speeches about forgiveness, how we are "destined to be in a band together", etc... You know the routine, you've bought tickets to this sh*t show for years.

THEN.........a pesky little heart attack leaves everything in question.

The Catdancer 11-21-2019 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1254918)
Maybe Neil Finn since he's "the guy" and best singing partner for her. ;) :distress:

She said that? OMG, they sound awful.

As for FM, I think it's the end. They're all getting up there. By the time they'll get back together Christine will be pushing 80. Her voice is not what it used to be (and that's putting it mildly), Stevie sounds horrible and there's like what, 15 people on that stage? How many will there be if they get back together? 25? :distress:

SteveMacD 11-24-2019 02:41 AM

I don’t think it’s the end. I don’t know about another year and a half tour, but I think they’ll do festival shows and smaller tours. So long as Mick and Stevie are alive, it will continue.

The Catdancer 11-25-2019 01:07 AM

According to Richard Dashut it is the end. He posted on FB that he has been to the Vegas show:"I will be writing soon about my last night with FM in concert and being backstage at the closing stages of their career. " He said this on the 22nd of November.

bombaysaffires 11-25-2019 01:40 AM

I tend to agree they will find ways to do more stuff. Maybe not big gigantic tours, but shows of some kind. Mick reports that Chris is the one constantly saying "what's next? what's next?" and is fired up to work. She got her 15 years of retirement until she was bored stiff.

Stevie can't seem to stop working and her managers will prop her up and send her out there as long as there's a buck to be made. Corporate gigs are big money for little time investment so I see her still doing those. Or smaller solo tours. She likes being a LEGEND and staying somehow in the public awareness.

Mick will keep finding ways to cash in. If nothing else he'll keep playing at his restaurant and have Chris join him but that's not the same money is it?

The only one I see embracing retirement is John.

But it all depends on health. THey're all officially old now for sure.

Sanne2 11-27-2019 06:15 AM

Crew member Ali Vatter (backstage/catering coördinator? I'm not 100% sure of her job description) sorta kinda confirms this was their last tour:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5UgyBnlNC8/
"Fleetwood Mac Fall US/CAN 2019. Sad to say this could very well be the last pictures from a Fleetwood Mac tour. It’s been a crazy ride since 2013. I have changed a lot, made life long friends, and am grateful to have been able to tour with such a rad band."

button-lip 11-27-2019 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanne2 (Post 1254991)
Crew member Ali Vatter (backstage/catering coördinator? I'm not 100% sure of her job description) sorta kinda confirms this was their last tour:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5UgyBnlNC8/
"Fleetwood Mac Fall US/CAN 2019. Sad to say this could very well be the last pictures from a Fleetwood Mac tour. It’s been a crazy ride since 2013. I have changed a lot, made life long friends, and am grateful to have been able to tour with such a rad band."

Well, that's not exactly a picture from the tour. It's a picture of Stevie from that thing at the Gala.
Noone dares to confirm anything, because it's all up to the 4 of them.

bombaysaffires 11-27-2019 04:21 PM

what the hell.....?? that cape is GHASTLY. Dead baby heads on the shoulders and down on the bottom trim..??

although it shows her exactly where she loves to be --- in the center of attention. She won't go quietly from that.

Sanne2 11-27-2019 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1255005)
what the hell.....?? that cape is GHASTLY. Dead baby heads on the shoulders and down on the bottom trim..??

although it shows her exactly where she loves to be --- in the center of attention. She won't go quietly from that.

She was backstage at the Met Opera and was wearing one of the costumes from a cast member.

Anyway, it was just announced that Stevie will be on the Ellen show on dec 4, she has no reason to be there unless she will make some kind of announcement.

button-lip 11-27-2019 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanne2 (Post 1255006)
She was backstage at the Met Opera and was wearing one of the costumes from a cast member.

Anyway, it was just announced that Stevie will be on the Ellen show on dec 4, she has no reason to be there unless she will make some kind of announcement.

Like what? She said she’s not the boss in FM, so she can’t make any announcement regarding the band.
Probably something about her solo tour, or she was invited to talk about her recent happiness now that Lindsey’s not there anymore.

BombaySapphire3 11-27-2019 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by button-lip (Post 1255007)
or she was invited to talk about her recent happiness now that Lindsey’s not there anymore.

Probably so ..since Lindsey and Ellen shared a girlfriend that might Ellen sympathetic to some LB bashing.

The Catdancer 11-28-2019 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanne2 (Post 1255006)
She was backstage at the Met Opera and was wearing one of the costumes from a cast member.

Anyway, it was just announced that Stevie will be on the Ellen show on dec 4, she has no reason to be there unless she will make some kind of announcement.

She's doing a show on January 17 at a golf tournament

https://www.desertsun.com/story/spor...nt/4273006002/

vivfox 11-29-2019 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanne2 (Post 1255006)
Anyway, it was just announced that Stevie will be on the Ellen show on dec 4, she has no reason to be there unless she will make some kind of announcement.

And on Dec. 5th she'll be on Jimmy Kimmel performing with Sheryl Crow, so something's in the works.

Hawkeye 11-30-2019 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1255034)
And on Dec. 5th she'll be on Jimmy Kimmel performing with Sheryl Crow, so something's in the works.

I agree. When she was on Ellen with Rod Stewart is when she officially announced that tour. I think the odds are really good for a Stevie/Sheryl joint tour announcement!

mitzo 11-30-2019 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye (Post 1255037)
I agree. When she was on Ellen with Rod Stewart is when she officially announced that tour. I think the odds are really good for a Stevie/Sheryl joint tour announcement!

Yuck, let's hope it is a brief tour. Not a fan of Sheryl at all.

elle 11-30-2019 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1255034)
And on Dec. 5th she'll be on Jimmy Kimmel performing with Sheryl Crow, so something's in the works.

looks like i will skip seeing Sheryl live this year. unless she opens for Brandi Carlile instead of SN somewhere close to me. :shrug:

WatchChain 11-30-2019 10:54 PM

Like the previous post, I’m betting on a Stevie Nicks tour with Sheryl Crow as the opener (a la Stevie/Pretenders) to begin as early as May of 2020 and continue throughout the summer. Although Stevie last played arenas, I’m wondering if they’ll hit the outdoor sheds like other dinosaur acts (Heart, Journey, Bob Seger). The Pretenders are opening for Journey next summer playing the sheds. Sheryl has a new duets album out and needs to hit the road to fill her retirement kitty.

David 12-09-2019 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchChain (Post 1255052)
The Pretenders are opening for Journey next summer playing the sheds.

The Pretenders on a bill with Journey? These are obviously the end times.

(You could characterize the Pretenders and their extraordinary legacy as being a sustained critique of everything that Journey ever represented and undoubtedly still represents.)


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