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jbrownsjr 04-06-2017 09:37 PM

When I See You Again...... Will It Be The Same?
 
I wanted to pay a little tribute to this tortured song. (because I've been listening to the re-master deluxe version that was just released...)

Next time you listen to WISYA, hear the "Fleetwood Mac" in it.
Listen to the guitar and keyboards, then combine the backing vocals by Buckingham/McVie. Notice how much contrast they have with this scorned and wounded woman. The sound off angels, as Stevie tries to figure out why she can't make it with the one who owns her heart. andddd (Who just happens to be singing 'beautifully' with a tall blonde british woman.)


Try to listen to it in this manner. Why? because Stevie Nicks nails what this song is about. You may not like her tone or timbre, but it accurately depicts the setting.

When you understand it that way, you can then appreciate the delicate voices, keyboards, and guitar that give way to a chamber of living angst.


............. well at least there is a dream left....

dreamsunwind 04-06-2017 09:41 PM

SERIOUSLY!!!!

The 'whassamattababy' thing is awful and some of those lyrics are really WTF (she stairs at the stares there are so many things to stare at these days?????)

BUT

I can't dislike this song. There's just something haunting about it. The arrangement and music on it are GORGEOUS. And when Lindsey comes in at the end is beautiful.

BLY 04-06-2017 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1205812)
I wanted to pay a little tribute to this tortured song. (because I've been listening to the re-master deluxe version that was just released...)

Next time you listen to WISYA, hear the "Fleetwood Mac" in it.
Listen to the guitar and keyboards, then combine the backing vocals by Buckingham/McVie. Notice how much contrast they have with this scorned and wounded woman. The sound off angels, as Stevie tries to figure out why she can't make it with the one who owns her heart. andddd (Who just happens to be singing 'beautifully' with a tall blonde british woman.)


Try to listen to it in this manner. Why? because Stevie Nicks nails what this song is about. You may not like her tone or timbre, but it accurately depicts the setting.

When you understand it that way, you can then appreciate the delicate voices, keyboards, and guitar that give way to a chamber of living angst.


............. well at least there is a dream left....


....so with you on this. I love the three voices on this track. With all the stuff that was going on during this time its amazing what input came out of these recordings. It's like 1987 all over again listening to this set and I'm happy to be back In the 80's

jbrownsjr 04-06-2017 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamsunwind (Post 1205813)
SERIOUSLY!!!!

The 'whassamattababy' thing is awful and some of those lyrics are really WTF (she stairs at the stares there are so many things to stare at these days?????)

BUT

I can't dislike this song. There's just something haunting about it. The arrangement and music on it are GORGEOUS. And when Lindsey comes in at the end is beautiful.

It's genius... whether they knew it or not, it came out as a strong message.

TheWildHeart67 04-06-2017 10:02 PM

I liked every track on this album when it was new, and to this day.
I even loved "Family Man," which my friend called "The Popeye song" cause of the "Am what I am" part. LOL.

dreamsunwind 04-06-2017 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1205817)
It's genius... whether they knew it or not, it came out as a strong message.

I think Stevie said she had to trick Lindsey to do it or something like that. That he was shy about his voice to sing like that so she told him they'd record it as a duet, then she took her part off so it would sound like a conversation.

TheWildHeart67 04-06-2017 10:43 PM

But how could Stevie trick him into it and take off vocals if he was producing?

dreamsunwind 04-06-2017 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWildHeart67 (Post 1205822)
But how could Stevie trick him into it and take off vocals if he was producing?

Yeah I don't know I wondered that too. Maybe she had an engineer do it and not tell him?

TheWildHeart67 04-06-2017 10:46 PM

True, but wouldn't Lindsey hear the final product before it got released?

secondhandchain 04-06-2017 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1205812)
I wanted to pay a little tribute to this tortured song. (because I've been listening to the re-master deluxe version that was just released...)

Next time you listen to WISYA, hear the "Fleetwood Mac" in it.
Listen to the guitar and keyboards, then combine the backing vocals by Buckingham/McVie. Notice how much contrast they have with this scorned and wounded woman. The sound off angels, as Stevie tries to figure out why she can't make it with the one who owns her heart. andddd (Who just happens to be singing 'beautifully' with a tall blonde british woman.)


Try to listen to it in this manner. Why? because Stevie Nicks nails what this song is about. You may not like her tone or timbre, but it accurately depicts the setting.

When you understand it that way, you can then appreciate the delicate voices, keyboards, and guitar that give way to a chamber of living angst.


............. well at least there is a dream left....

..
Yes I will try....um NO it's terrible. The music is fine but her lyrics are voice are SCARILY BAD!

button-lip 04-06-2017 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWildHeart67 (Post 1205818)
I liked every track on this album when it was new, and to this day.
I even loved "Family Man," which my friend called "The Popeye song" cause of the "Am what I am" part. LOL.

I also love every song in TITN. Some more than others but the love is there for the whole album.
And yes, I also even love Family Man. Just because of the message, of what Lindsey wanted to become, and he succeeded.

jbrownsjr 04-06-2017 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1205825)
..
Yes I will try....um NO it's terrible. The music is fine but her lyrics are voice are SCARILY BAD!

Hahahahahahah...

shackin'up 04-07-2017 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1205825)
..
Yes I will try....um NO it's terrible. The music is fine but her lyrics are voice are SCARILY BAD!

Hauntingly scary. Aweful. To the max.

Phil 04-07-2017 05:33 AM

I maintain that Stevie, as addled and desperate as she was at the time, brought heart to the Tango album, which without her blood and guts, would have been overly synthesised and slick. The stripped back "When I See You Again", flaws and all, helps to balance proceedings - it is in its own way, an unwitting masterstroke, exposing Stevie as devastated and devoid of hope.
I remember her mentioning the trick she played on Lindsey regarding the coda but I have recently been wondering if indeed she had even recorded a vocal for this section? Given the situation, Lindsey may have undertaken the vocal out of necessity. I have heard a poor quality outtake that features Stevie during the fade but it appears to be fan-made with just the opening line of "when I see you again" looped (ie not a harmony vocal).

Macfan4life 04-07-2017 05:46 AM

I really tried but
I'm still staring at the stairs
(sigh)
There are many things to stare at these days


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