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elle 09-07-2018 05:48 PM

did Stevie oust Lindsey to get herself into RNRHOF?
 
some social media speculations - the article states her solo career is not Rock Hall worthy - however if FM effectively becomes SN and friends (as it looked this week) may she have a chance?

https://www.cleveland.com/expo/life-...ml#incart_2box

Stevie Nicks

My arm was twisted by my colleagues to put Pat Benatar in this spot. I wouldn’t budge. While I personally don’t see Stevie Nicks’ solo career as Rock Hall worthy, her ranking near the top of the museum’s new electronic fan vote has to mean something, right?

Miss Vicky 09-07-2018 08:27 PM

I can't stand Stevie but that sounds like a bit of a stretch. I think she ousted him because she hates him and knew she had the power to make it happen - his contributions to the band's sound, her own songs, and his influence on the direction of her career be damned.

I think Stevie's more recent solo recordings are downright terrible, honestly, but I can't deny that her earlier work is pretty damn solid so I wouldn't object to her being inducted as a solo artist.

elle 09-07-2018 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 1235949)
I can't stand Stevie but that sounds like a bit of a stretch. I think she ousted him because she hates him and knew she had the power to make it happen - his contributions to the band's sound, her own songs, and his influence on the direction of her career be damned.

i think so too. everything else that may go with that is just gravy.

BombaySapphire3 09-07-2018 09:31 PM

I don't think her getting rid of Lindsey will increase her chances for induction and I doubt that even crossed her mind but Fleetwood Mac is now Stevie Nicks and friends no doubt or at least Stevie Nicks and her band of merry mercenaries.

Macfan4life 09-08-2018 02:53 AM

I don't see the relation or how it would help her get into the RRHOF

That RAL album is killing her chances
LOL

StreetAngel86 09-08-2018 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 1235949)
I can't stand Stevie but that sounds like a bit of a stretch. I think she ousted him because she hates him and knew she had the power to make it happen - his contributions to the band's sound, her own songs, and his influence on the direction of her career be damned.


hate is not the opposite of love.

lovethemac1 09-08-2018 07:34 AM

You shouldn't be inducted into the RRHOF if you blew up your already inducted band. :shrug:

elle 09-08-2018 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by StreetAngel86 (Post 1235973)
hate is not the opposite of love.

wonder whether the new guys are already sick and tired (and going huh?) of her endless talk about LB and how much she hates him. you know she must be doing that - she cannot resist mentioning him!

Nathan 09-09-2018 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1236032)
wonder whether the new guys are already sick and tired (and going huh?) of her endless talk about LB and how much she hates him. you know she must be doing that - she cannot resist mentioning him!

Lindsey is a big part of the history of the band that they just joined. He or his absence is also central to them having joined at all. And that's to say nothing of the role that he's played in Stevie's life, whatever that's been.

So it makes sense that he would come up in conversation - his guitar parts and his musical contributions, in particular. Although I doubt that Lindsey on a personal level is a main topic. And I also doubt that SN has nothing more salient in her life to share than "endless talk about LB and how much she hates him."

Unless you have personally had a conversation with SN about something other than her music, it seems to me that you might not actually know. Is it possible that you are projecting? Since I don't know either, my guess is that when she's not being interviewed, she has a grab-bag of rich old lady topics to pull from, that includes her investments (or what her advisors told her about them at their last quarterly meeting), the amenities at whatever Santa Monica health or country club she belongs to, weather in LA, weather in Hawaii, shopping, and taxes in California.

When Mike Campbell is in the room, I imagine that Tom Petty, Benmont Tench, and the history that they all share with SN comes up far more frequently than her personal feelings about LB do. With Neil Finn, I would wager that the topic of Australian resorts gets the most play.

DownOnRodeo 09-09-2018 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 1236162)
Unless you have personally had a conversation with SN about something other than her music, it seems to me that you might not actually know. Is it possible that you are projecting? Since I don't know either, my guess is that when she's not being interviewed, she has a grab-bag of rich old lady topics to pull from, that includes her investments (or what her advisors told her about them at their last quarterly meeting), the amenities at whatever Santa Monica health or country club she belongs to, weather in LA, weather in Hawaii, shopping, and taxes in California.

When Mike Campbell is in the room, I imagine that Tom Petty, Benmont Tench, and the history that they all share with SN comes up far more frequently than her personal feelings about LB do. With Neil Finn, I would wager that the topic of Australian resorts gets the most play.

You phrased your speculation with "My guess is" and "I imagine", while Elle phrased hers with "you know she must." :shrug: No one's claiming to have actual knowledge of what is unknown, but we can all make reasonable assumptions. I don't think the question of whether Stevie happens to discuss the weather would have been worth someone making a post about though. :laugh:

Angel75 09-09-2018 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 1236162)
Lindsey is a big part of the history of the band that they just joined. He or his absence is also central to them having joined at all. And that's to say nothing of the role that he's played in Stevie's life, whatever that's been.

So it makes sense that he would come up in conversation - his guitar parts and his musical contributions, in particular. Although I doubt that Lindsey on a personal level is a main topic. And I also doubt that SN has nothing more salient in her life to share than "endless talk about LB and how much she hates him."

Unless you have personally had a conversation with SN about something other than her music, it seems to me that you might not actually know. Is it possible that you are projecting? Since I don't know either, my guess is that when she's not being interviewed, she has a grab-bag of rich old lady topics to pull from, that includes her investments (or what her advisors told her about them at their last quarterly meeting), the amenities at whatever Santa Monica health or country club she belongs to, weather in LA, weather in Hawaii, shopping, and taxes in California.

When Mike Campbell is in the room, I imagine that Tom Petty, Benmont Tench, and the history that they all share with SN comes up far more frequently than her personal feelings about LB do. With Neil Finn, I would wager that the topic of Australian resorts gets the most play.

Interesting, I expect Neil would know vertically nothing about Australian resorts, strange you think this is a subject he would be familiar with :shrug:

mitzo 09-09-2018 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 1236162)
Lindsey is a big part of the history of the band that they just joined. He or his absence is also central to them having joined at all. And that's to say nothing of the role that he's played in Stevie's life, whatever that's been.

So it makes sense that he would come up in conversation - his guitar parts and his musical contributions, in particular. Although I doubt that Lindsey on a personal level is a main topic. And I also doubt that SN has nothing more salient in her life to share than "endless talk about LB and how much she hates him."

Unless you have personally had a conversation with SN about something other than her music, it seems to me that you might not actually know. Is it possible that you are projecting? Since I don't know either, my guess is that when she's not being interviewed, she has a grab-bag of rich old lady topics to pull from, that includes her investments (or what her advisors told her about them at their last quarterly meeting), the amenities at whatever Santa Monica health or country club she belongs to, weather in LA, weather in Hawaii, shopping, and taxes in California.

When Mike Campbell is in the room, I imagine that Tom Petty, Benmont Tench, and the history that they all share with SN comes up far more frequently than her personal feelings about LB do. With Neil Finn, I would wager that the topic of Australian resorts gets the most play.

This. Amazing how the entire universe gets filtered through a prism of Stevie for some here. Maybe she is just a person, you know, and not the antichrist.

Nathan 09-09-2018 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1236166)
You phrased your speculation with "My guess is" and "I imagine", while Elle phrased hers with "you know she must." :shrug: No one's claiming to have actual knowledge of what is unknown, but we can all make reasonable assumptions. I don't think the question of whether Stevie happens to discuss the weather would have been worth someone making a post about though. :laugh:

I don’t “know she must [talk endlesslly about LB and how much she hates him]” and neither does Elle and neither do you.

As I explained in the part of my post that you chose not to quote or address, it just doesn’t make sense for that to be the case.

Anyone who purports to “know,” or suggests that it’s somehow common knowledge that SN is talking “endless[ly]” to her band mates “about LB and how much she hates him” is projecting onto her their own actions here on The Ledge. Because the only place where there is endless hating on a member of Fleetwood Mac, is this board.

DownOnRodeo 09-09-2018 05:52 AM

You must know I'm not wrong
 
I was just making a point about English usage and the notion of lecturing about 'we know nothing' while then indulging in your own speculation (and not to be mean, but I'm with Angel75 on the 'Australian resorts' thing..).

The actual topic at hand itself wasn't of interest to me so I didn't bring it up.

Literalism and epistemological pedantry, on the other hand...

Sorry to derail from the main topic.

HomerMcvie 09-09-2018 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1236172)
This. Amazing how the entire universe gets filtered through a prism of Stevie for some here. Maybe she is just a person, you know, and not the antichrist.

Oh now, don't go there. I'll have to take down my Satanic shrine/dart board.


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