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MacShadowsBall 05-31-2013 07:48 PM

Which two albums represent Lindsey's best Fleetwood Mac work?
 
Since I did one for Stevie in honor of her birthday, I thought I'd continue for Lindsey, Christine, and possibly the Pre-Rumours gang.

Pick 2 albums that you feel represent and showcases Lindsey Buckingham at his very best. :cool:

Artemis 06-01-2013 12:04 PM

Rumours and Tango, easily.

HomerMcvie 06-01-2013 12:14 PM

SYW got 3 votes, and '75 NOTHING?
That's bass ackwards!

Ulpian 06-01-2013 12:34 PM

I'm surprised at how well SYW is doing so far. I would've thought it'd have been a fight between Tusk, Rumours and TITN.
:D

gssmith 06-01-2013 12:35 PM

I voted for the white album and rumours. I love all his songs on those! Everyone of them. For Tusk and Mirage I thought his songs were by far the weakest, horrible. He did do a great job producing Stevie's songs for those albums though I guess he does get credit there. Its easy to see how jealousy tore them apart which is typical for a lot of musical relationships it seems. For Tango- Big Love is great and the tittle song is good, but the rest were just ok to blah. Even though I am a bigger Stevie fan for sure, he did carry Say You Will, but even those songs were sub par to the first two albums.

Dex 06-01-2013 12:41 PM

Rumours and '75 are flawless albums, but Tusk and SYW show Lindsey at his most unrestrained and interesting, so they get my vote. Mirage and Tango have just a touch too many clunkers for me. Sorry Oh Diane and Family Man! I know you were minor UK hits, but it's time to admit that you are just not very good songs.

MacShadowsBall 06-01-2013 12:47 PM

I'm curious about how TITN will do as it wasn't in play for Stevie and I imagine will do great for Christine. :cool:

TrueFaith77 06-01-2013 01:18 PM

Two words: Go Your Own Way

also: everything on Tusk

louielouie2000 06-01-2013 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1094728)
SYW got 3 votes, and '75 NOTHING?
That's bass ackwards!

For me, Lindsey's songs from the '75 & Rumours albums are flawless... but those contributions are almost cliche and middle of the road compared to Lindsey's later works.

Mirage is Lindsey's low point, IMO. He's totally thumbing his nose at the backlash from his Tusk experiments by contributing utterly inoffensive & completely boring songs.

Tango is one of Fleetwood Mac's best albums, IMO... it's every bit as good of a pop album as Rumours & Mystery To Me. Oddly enough, when you look at the songwriters individually, they don't hold their own compared to their other albums.

In a strange twist of fate, I think Lindsey's best material is found on the 2 Mac albums where I feel Stevie's resides as well: Tusk & Say You Will. For me, those 2 albums are where Lindsey really flexes his creative muscle, and is probably most himself. Tusk is the band's masterpiece, IMO. In opposition to Mirage, I feel Say You Will is a terrible album, yet when you look at the songwriters individually, it's some of their best works of their careers.

michelej1 06-01-2013 04:55 PM

^ To me, Lindsey's Mirage work is not inoffensive. It's retro weird. For a 1982 audience, I don't think it was meant to be appealing. I think they were meant to find it odd and that it was intended to be noncommercial and uncooperative.

What Warner Bros. wanted from Lindsey was "Trouble" and he decided not to give them that and delivered cliches with a twist instead, but the subversion was less obvious (and less creative) than his Tusk oddness was.

By contrast, I think a song like "Steal Your Heart Away" is innocuous and safe. Inoffensive. Palatable in a way that I don think the Mirage offerings were ever meant to be.

The problem is, While I hear a different type of rebellion in Diane or Eyes, I think they're less complicated and original than his work on Tusk.

Michele

Dex 06-01-2013 05:07 PM

Agreed, Michele. I think people are too quick to make the leap from "I don't like this" to "Lindsey was intentionally kinda sucking" when it comes to Mirage. I think it absolutely was what he wanted to put out. The difference is that it just... wasn't very interesting.

I do have a soft spot for Book of Love though. That was the only not-Stevie Mirage song that I actually enjoyed for a good year into my Mac fandom.

elle 06-01-2013 07:28 PM

i will repeat what i already said here:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpo...1&postcount=49

Quote:

Originally Posted by elle (Post 1094461)
however spectacular SHN and GYOW are (and MM, ISA, and NGBA and not half bad either ;) ), if you look at the body of work / overall creativity Lindsey was at his peak for Tusk and then again for SYW (well SYW peak was really in the late 90s).

and then again now, which started somewhere in 2010.


GypsySorcerer 06-01-2013 10:09 PM

Hmmm....

I don't think the white album represents his best work. "I'm So Afraid" is MUCH better live. "Blue Letter" is my favorite of his on the album, but he didn't write it, so.... Of course, his songs are Rumours are perfect. I think "Go Your Own Way" is their only "hit" I've never grown tired of, at one point or another. I could listen to that song 1000 times in a row, and it would still sound fresh to me.

I love and appreciate all of Lindsey's songs on Tusk. They're his most interesting batch of songs.

I don't think his songs on Mirage are as bad as some seem to think. "Empire State" isn't a favorite, but I like the rest. Even "Oh Diane." :eek:

I've always been partial to Tango. "Big Love" and the title track are great. "Caroline" has insipid lyrics, but I love the music and energy.

Lindsey's songs on SYW are much stronger than Stevie's, IMO. Lyrically, they're definitely among his best (I think "Peacekeeper" and "Red Rover" are especially poetic).

So I'm gong with SYW and Tusk. Rumours and Tango are very, very close.

Neal 06-01-2013 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artemis (Post 1094726)
Rumours and Tango, easily.

Ditto. :thumbsup:

HomerMcvie 06-02-2013 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1094742)
Mirage is Lindsey's low point, IMO. He's totally thumbing his nose at the backlash from his Tusk experiments by contributing utterly inoffensive & completely boring songs.

Tango is one of Fleetwood Mac's best albums, IMO... it's every bit as good of a pop album as Rumours & Mystery To Me. Oddly enough, when you look at the songwriters individually, they don't hold their own compared to their other albums.

In a strange twist of fate, I think Lindsey's best material is found on the 2 Mac albums where I feel Stevie's resides as well: Tusk & Say You Will. For me, those 2 albums are where Lindsey really flexes his creative muscle, and is probably most himself. Tusk is the band's masterpiece, IMO. In opposition to Mirage, I feel Say You Will is a terrible album, yet when you look at the songwriters individually, it's some of their best works of their careers.

Mirage may not be "deep", but I'll never understand the disrespect it gets.
I LOVE Can't Go Back, Book of Love, and even Empire State!!!

Tango just sounds too 80's for me. I mean, I like it, but it doesn't sound like a BAND playing, it sounds like a computer playing the instruments. It's pop perfection, but as a musician, it leaves me cold.

Tusk is the masterpiece, but probably not to the casual fan. Rumours is the album that changed my life...I am who I am, and became who I am, all over being OBSESSED with that album, as a kid. So even though I rarely listen to it anymore, Rumours will always be my favorite.

Say You Will? Just Say You Won't. Too long, too many songs, too many songs that sound like solo songs - not FM songs. And the FM balance of Christine, gone....I think that's why they shouldn't put anything else out(other than maybe EP's).


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