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secondhandchain 03-30-2019 09:29 PM

Stevie at RHOF "MY band that is still together."
 
Says everything you need to know about this person. UGH UGH UGH.

HomerMcvie 03-30-2019 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1251434)
Says everything you need to know about this person. UGH UGH UGH.

$he's a real you know what. 4 or 5 letters. Your choice!

mitzo 03-30-2019 09:38 PM

She is in the RRHOF to great acclaim and FM is on a hugely successful world tour.

button-lip 03-30-2019 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1251434)
Says everything you need to know about this person. UGH UGH UGH.

Love the audience cheering when HS mentioned Lindsey. :D

TheWildHeart67 03-30-2019 11:41 PM

This is a terrific weekend 😍😍😍.
All the bitter posts make me laugh!😘

BombaySapphire3 03-31-2019 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1251436)
She is in the RRHOF to great acclaim and FM is on a hugely successful world tour.

and with not a note of new music from either:shrug: I thought that is what you really wanted.

secondhandchain 03-31-2019 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by button-lip (Post 1251437)
Love the audience cheering when HS mentioned Lindsey. :D

I won't listen so can you explain what happened? I'm sure the audience knew what they were doing?

sue 03-31-2019 02:03 AM

I haven’t listened to all of her acceptance speech.
But I thought she was referring to her solo band, the one she tours with.
Waddy, Jimmy, Sharon, Lori.
As I say I haven’t heard all of it (way too long)....so I could of missed
something..

MissJanet 03-31-2019 03:05 AM

I don't see the problem with "my band". What else could she say, it is HER band, as it is Christine's, Mick's and John's band. They all own the b(r)and.

button-lip 03-31-2019 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1251447)
I won't listen so can you explain what happened? I'm sure the audience knew what they were doing?

I haven’t watched it either. Just read comments that people were cheering when Harry Styles mentioned Lindsey. I bet Nicks was ecstatic :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by sue (Post 1251448)
I haven’t listened to all of her acceptance speech.
But I thought she was referring to her solo band, the one she tours with.
Waddy, Jimmy, Sharon, Lori.
As I say I haven’t heard all of it (way too long)....so I could of missed
something..

She was talking about FM when she said “my band”.

button-lip 03-31-2019 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MissJanet (Post 1251449)
I don't see the problem with "my band". What else could she say, it is HER band, as it is Christine's, Mick's and John's band. They all own the b(r)and.

That’s clearly not the problem here. Her band is not still together and that’s because of her, right? She was taking a dig at Lindsey.

Christine and Mick confirmed it so there’s nothing much to say.

michelej1 03-31-2019 02:03 PM

She sounded crazy. We’re used to reading between her lines. Besides, we have heard most of her anecdotes already and we can easily fill in the information gaps between her inchoate sentences, but what did it sound like to the rest of the audience? Meandering doesn’t describe it.

And death to all potheads.

Feather Blade 03-31-2019 02:06 PM

It may not be in the configuration some here might wish for, but the band IS still together. Still active, still touring, still hopefully recording someday, still in existence. As far as "my band" goes, one doesn't assume that everytime you hear someone say "my church", "my office", "my school"; that the person literally owns those things. Goodness, give the search for evil intent in every comment a rest.

sodascouts 03-31-2019 02:07 PM

She just had to get her dig in, didn't she? I was ready to be happy for her in spite of everything, but this spoiled it.

Feather Blade 03-31-2019 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1251474)
She sounded crazy. We’re used to reading between her lines. Besides, we have heard most of her anecdotes already and we can easily fill in the information gaps between her inchoate sentences, but what did it sound like to the rest of the audience? Meandering doesn’t describe it.

And death to all potheads.

I wondered if she was a little tipsy. Maybe a little backstage celebrating going on?

bwboy 03-31-2019 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Feather Blade (Post 1251475)
It may not be in the configuration some here might wish for, but the band IS still together. Still active, still touring, still hopefully recording someday, still in existence. As far as "my band" goes, one doesn't assume that everytime you hear someone say "my church", "my office", "my school"; that the person literally owns those things. Goodness, give the search for evil intent in every comment a rest.

Well said, Feather Blade. That was how I took it, too. Freud would have a field day on this forum, the way every remark or comment is analyzed by some people just looking for a nasty intent. Glad to see that none of the numerous articles mentioned it, because they knew it was much ado about nothing.

Reminds me of when Blondie was inducted, and one of the former members asked Debbie Harry (during his speech) if he could join the band when they performed, and Debbie said something like "my band has already rehearsed" and he had a hissy fit and responded "Oh, it's your band now?"

iamnotafraid 03-31-2019 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Feather Blade (Post 1251477)

I wondered if she was a little tipsy. Maybe a little backstage celebrating going on?

No, that's just our little Stevie. She was just drunk
on her ego.

Last night when I heard her say "my band...", I thought of
making a thread here about it. But then I knew I wouldn't
need to because someone else would.

I'm embarrassed for her every time she makes a speech.

button-lip 03-31-2019 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feather Blade (Post 1251475)
It may not be in the configuration some here might wish for, but the band IS still together. Still active, still touring, still hopefully recording someday, still in existence. As far as "my band" goes, one doesn't assume that everytime you hear someone say "my church", "my office", "my school"; that the person literally owns those things. Goodness, give the search for evil intent in every comment a rest.

Well, she fired Lindsey for smirking, so I guess we’re learning from the best.

Street_Dreamer 03-31-2019 04:09 PM

I've never heard Lindsey refer to Fleetwood Mac as being "his band". I don't remember anyone else in the group, even Mick and John refer to Fleetwood Mac as being their band.

button-lip 03-31-2019 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1251481)
No, that's just our little Stevie. She was just drunk
on her ego.

Last night when I heard her say "my band...", I thought of
making a thread here about it. But then I knew I wouldn't
need to because someone else would.

I'm embarrassed for her every time she makes a speech.

Thank God she was the first act (because you leave the best for last :woohoo: ), so she could go home and sleep her drunkenness. Or more like her pillness…. ;)

luminol 03-31-2019 05:03 PM

I don't read a lot into that particular comment (as someone already stated, people say "my church" etc), however, I agree that I don't recall any of the others referring to it as "my band." It's classic Stevie... everything revolves around her and her perspective. This particular night WAS about her (and the other inductees) and so she had the right to be giddy (though it was embarrassing for me to watch what I saw). But I won't slam her for being excited on a night like that.

(Though the fact that this was about her solo work and not FM also makes the comment all the more unnecessary and does inevitably twist the knife.)

jwd 03-31-2019 07:03 PM

Honestly, I can't take her anymore. She's a ditz. That rambling, idiotic speech! I saw Harry smirk behind her. :distress:

cbBen 03-31-2019 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jwd (Post 1251494)
I saw Harry smirk behind her.

And there go his chances to be the next Neil Finn.

HomerMcvie 03-31-2019 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feather Blade (Post 1251475)
It may not be in the configuration some here might wish for, but the band IS still together. Still active, still touring, still hopefully recording someday, still in existence. As far as "my band" goes, one doesn't assume that everytime you hear someone say "my church", "my office", "my school"; that the person literally owns those things. Goodness, give the search for evil intent in every comment a rest.

She is a delusional IDIOT. WHO ELSE could disrespect the person inducting them so? Only a f**king IDIOT, could make that mistake.


The most AMAZING thing in her career is how she managed to do ANYTHING. What a twat biscuit!

SteveMacD 03-31-2019 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Street_Dreamer (Post 1251483)
I've never heard Lindsey refer to Fleetwood Mac as being "his band".

“I will stand with my band
Stand with my band”

BombaySapphire3 04-01-2019 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1251501)
She is a delusional IDIOT. WHO ELSE could disrespect the person inducting them so? Only a f**king IDIOT, could make that mistake.


The most AMAZING thing in her career is how she managed to do ANYTHING. What a twat biscuit!

Actually the far more ditzy mistake was saying that she wrote Leather and Lace for Merle Haggard and Jessi Colter ..WTF?!

Storms123 04-01-2019 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1251504)
Actually the far more ditzy mistake was saying that she wrote Leather and Lace for Merle Haggard and Jessi Colter ..WTF?!

And I am sure it was mentioned somewhere earlier, but she also said Harry was a member of NSync

MissJanet 04-01-2019 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Street_Dreamer (Post 1251483)
I've never heard Lindsey refer to Fleetwood Mac as being "his band". I don't remember anyone else in the group, even Mick and John refer to Fleetwood Mac as being their band.

Mick does it in all his books, though.

bwboy 04-01-2019 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1251502)
“I will stand with my band
Stand with my band”

Notice that no one who had a hissy fit about Stevie saying "my band" will reply to your example of Lindsey saying the same thing.

What a twat biscuit, huh?

aleuzzi 04-01-2019 10:12 AM

The speech was entertaining in the way it was expected to be entertaining--a rambling mess of improvised stuff. I bear no ill will on her honor, nor on her calling FM "her band" (they've all done that).

But I DID have some problems with the speech:

1. Lindsey is only mentioned in a passive-aggressively demeaning way: the pot smoking boyfriend who stayed home and worked on music while she waited on tables. (And in Harry's intro, his tenure as Fritz's bassist is mentioned but not his exceptional guitar abilities that developed post-Fritz.)

2. Waddy Watchell isn't mentioned at all.

3. For a woman who has rightfully made a lot of noise about her being the first woman to be inducted twice, I bristled at the end of her speech when she spoke of her woman manager and how hard it is for her to take direction from anyone, "especially another girl."

4. Sandy Stewart is not mentioned.

5. Mike Campbell is not mentioned.

6. Rick Knowels (sp?) is not mentioned.

7. In terms of producers, only Jimmy Iovine is mentioned. No mention of, say, Dave Stuart.

8. Rulebook: sleep with men who will take you places.

……………..

I feel everyone of Stevie's albums has value so I was also disappointed to see that only songs from her first two albums were performed.

TrueFaith77 04-01-2019 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1251510)
Notice that no one who had a hissy fit about Stevie saying "my band" will reply to your example of Lindsey saying the same thing.

What a twat biscuit, huh?

I actually came in to drop those lyrics myself.

And I among those repulsed by her use of the phrase.

Lindsey's point is that he will do whatever it takes to keep the band, the fireflies, together. (That's the SENTIMENT of the song.)

When she refers to it as "MY band" in the context of all that has happened, it does it indeed sound like a coup. Because! It is no longer "her band" as we knew it (the 5); it's now quite literally "HER band".

jbrownsjr 04-01-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1251517)
The speech was entertaining in the way it was expected to be entertaining--a rambling mess of improvised stuff. I bear no ill will on her honor, nor on her calling FM "her band" (they've all done that).

But I DID have some problems with the speech:

1. Lindsey is only mentioned in a passive-aggressively demeaning way: the pot smoking boyfriend who stayed home and worked on music while she waited on tables. (And in Harry's intro, his tenure as Fritz's bassist is mentioned but not his exceptional guitar abilities that developed post-Fritz.)

2. Waddy Watchell isn't mentioned at all.

3. For a woman who has rightfully made a lot of noise about her being the first woman to be inducted twice, I bristled at the end of her speech when she spoke of her woman manager and how hard it is for her to take direction from anyone, "especially another girl."

4. Sandy Stewart is not mentioned.

5. Mike Campbell is not mentioned.

6. Rick Knowels (sp?) is not mentioned.

7. In terms of producers, only Jimmy Iovine is mentioned. No mention of, say, Dave Stuart.

8. Rulebook: sleep with men who will take you places.

……………..

I feel everyone of Stevie's albums has value so I was also disappointed to see that only songs from her first two albums were performed.

I guess the fans weren't mentioned, either. What a surprise.

David 04-01-2019 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1251517)
The speech was entertaining in the way it was expected to be entertaining--a rambling mess of improvised stuff. I bear no ill will on her honor, nor on her calling FM "her band" (they've all done that).

Hi, Tony. Yes, I think they've all done that in various contexts at one time or another. In fact, it reminded me of Stevie's radio interview with Jim Ladd in 1979 where she addresses this "my band" stuff directly.

https://youtu.be/VLpSBzTf3Mw?t=325

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1251517)
But I DID have some problems with the speech:

1. Lindsey is only mentioned in a passive-aggressively demeaning way: the pot smoking boyfriend who stayed home and worked on music while she waited on tables. (And in Harry's intro, his tenure as Fritz's bassist is mentioned but not his exceptional guitar abilities that developed post-Fritz.)

2. Waddy Watchell isn't mentioned at all.

3. For a woman who has rightfully made a lot of noise about her being the first woman to be inducted twice, I bristled at the end of her speech when she spoke of her woman manager and how hard it is for her to take direction from anyone, "especially another girl."

4. Sandy Stewart is not mentioned.

5. Mike Campbell is not mentioned.

6. Rick Knowels (sp?) is not mentioned.

7. In terms of producers, only Jimmy Iovine is mentioned. No mention of, say, Dave Stuart.

8. Rulebook: sleep with men who will take you places.

All good points. But I wouldn't have expected her necessarily to mention Sandy, Campbell, Rick, Dave Stewart, or any of her producers besides the guys who totally got her started: Danny and Paul, who formed Modern primarily to get Stevie started, and Jimmy, who wasn't only her first solo producer but her career sine qua non. The other guys, like Waddy, played major roles but it's really Danny, Paul, and Jimmy who created "Stevie Nicks" the solo act. They were the project managers when the project was launched. I suppose she could have rambled off a list at the end of her speech of a bunch of these other guys (and of course women like Sheryl, without whom there'd probably not be a Shangri La album and tour). But she yacked ad hoc for so long that there just didn't seem to be an opportunity.

I thought her anecdotal "speech" was everything others have said: airheaded and incoherent and fun. (In fact, as is typical for me these days, I like hearing her talk a lot more than I like hearing her sing.) But I don't think it was even her best (or near her best) rambling-style speech. While she's speaking, she seems to vaguely recall having mentioned many of these stories before and so she ellides them almost subconsciously until they make no sense if you aren't already aware of what she's referring to. I would imagine that a huge portion of that audience (which was there to see the Cure and Def Leppard and Roxy Music) was completely lost.

aleuzzi 04-01-2019 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David (Post 1251525)
Hi, Tony. Yes, I think they've all done that in various contexts at one time or another. In fact, it reminded me of Stevie's radio interview with Jim Ladd in 1979 where she addresses this "my band" stuff directly.

https://youtu.be/VLpSBzTf3Mw?t=325

All good points. But I wouldn't have expected her necessarily to mention Sandy, Campbell, Rick, Dave Stewart, or any of her producers besides the guys who totally got her started: Danny and Paul, who formed Modern primarily to get Stevie started, and Jimmy, who wasn't only her first solo producer but her career sine qua non. The other guys, like Waddy, played major roles but it's really Danny, Paul, and Jimmy who created "Stevie Nicks" the solo act. They were the project managers when the project was launched. I suppose she could have rambled off a list at the end of her speech of a bunch of these other guys (and of course women like Sheryl, without whom there'd probably not be a Shangri La album and tour). But she yacked ad hoc for so long that there just didn't seem to be an opportunity.

I thought her anecdotal "speech" was everything others have said: airheaded and incoherent and fun. (In fact, as is typical for me these days, I like hearing her talk a lot more than I like hearing her sing.) But I don't think it was even her best (or near her best) rambling-style speech. While she's speaking, she seems to vaguely recall having mentioned many of these stories before and so she ellides them almost subconsciously until they make no sense if you aren't already aware of what she's referring to. I would imagine that a huge portion of that audience (which was there to see the Cure and Def Leppard and Roxy Music) was completely lost.

I see what you mean, but Dave Stewart is largely responsible for resuscitating her solo career and helping her "brand" herself as the scatterbrained witch we love to see. I'm surprised she didn't recognize him for that.

If she's going to mention Tom Petty, she might as well mention the Petty guitarist who helped her co-write a number of her solo songs AND who is working with her present mothership band. And Sandy Stewart? Well, she's a woman--and since this was supposed to be a woman-positive speech, it would have been cool to recognize one of her successful collaborators.

bwboy 04-01-2019 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1251517)
The speech was entertaining in the way it was expected to be entertaining--a rambling mess of improvised stuff. I bear no ill will on her honor, nor on her calling FM "her band" (they've all done that).

But I DID have some problems with the speech:

1. Lindsey is only mentioned in a passive-aggressively demeaning way: the pot smoking boyfriend who stayed home and worked on music while she waited on tables. (And in Harry's intro, his tenure as Fritz's bassist is mentioned but not his exceptional guitar abilities that developed post-Fritz.)

3. For a woman who has rightfully made a lot of noise about her being the first woman to be inducted twice, I bristled at the end of her speech when she spoke of her woman manager and how hard it is for her to take direction from anyone, "especially another girl."

Frankly, I was thrilled she even acknowledged Lindsey at all, even if it was just in passing. I didn't think her mention of Lindsey was passive aggressive, maybe dismissive is the more appropriate term. But I had no problem with Harry Styles or his speech, including his mention of Lindsey. Steve's induction was not the place where anyone was going to bring up Lindsey's incredible guitar prowess. And I don't recall Stevie saying in her speech Lindsey stayed home smoking pot, but in all fairness I was bored by her speech and may have missed it. If she did say that in her speech, that would be a more appropriate example of passive aggressive.

I really agree with #3. Saying 'girl' instead of 'woman' irritated me, plus the context in which she said it.

michelej1 04-01-2019 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1251504)
Actually the far more ditzy mistake was saying that she wrote Leather and Lace for Merle Haggard and Jessi Colter ..WTF?!

Waylon’s pretty mad about it.

SteveMacD 04-01-2019 01:06 PM

I was a little surprised that Mike didn’t get a mention, since he’s had playing and/or writing credits on all of her solo albums.

michelej1 04-01-2019 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1251517)

3. For a woman who has rightfully made a lot of noise about her being the first woman to be inducted twice, I bristled at the end of her speech when she spoke of her woman manager and how hard it is for her to take direction from anyone, "especially another girl."

Yes, that was a problem. Although Stevie has always been an old-fashioned sexist. It’s her generation, I suppose.

bombaysaffires 04-01-2019 02:58 PM

!!!"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1251517)
The speech was entertaining in the way it was expected to be entertaining--a rambling mess of improvised stuff. I bear no ill will on her honor, nor on her calling FM "her band" (they've all done that).

But I DID have some problems with the speech:

1. Lindsey is only mentioned in a passive-aggressively demeaning way: the pot smoking boyfriend who stayed home and worked on music while she waited on tables. (And in Harry's intro, his tenure as Fritz's bassist is mentioned but not his exceptional guitar abilities that developed post-Fritz.)

2. Waddy Watchell isn't mentioned at all.

3. For a woman who has rightfully made a lot of noise about her being the first woman to be inducted twice, I bristled at the end of her speech when she spoke of her woman manager and how hard it is for her to take direction from anyone, "especially another girl."

4. Sandy Stewart is not mentioned.

5. Mike Campbell is not mentioned.

6. Rick Knowels (sp?) is not mentioned.

7. In terms of producers, only Jimmy Iovine is mentioned. No mention of, say, Dave Stuart.

8. Rulebook: sleep with men who will take you places.

……………..

I feel everyone of Stevie's albums has value so I was also disappointed to see that only songs from her first two albums were performed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by David (Post 1251525)
Hi, Tony. Yes, I think they've all done that in various contexts at one time or another. In fact, it reminded me of Stevie's radio interview with Jim Ladd in 1979 where she addresses this "my band" stuff directly.

https://youtu.be/VLpSBzTf3Mw?t=325

All good points. But I wouldn't have expected her necessarily to mention Sandy, Campbell, Rick, Dave Stewart, or any of her producers besides the guys who totally got her started: Danny and Paul, who formed Modern primarily to get Stevie started, and Jimmy, who wasn't only her first solo producer but her career sine qua non. The other guys, like Waddy, played major roles but it's really Danny, Paul, and Jimmy who created "Stevie Nicks" the solo act. They were the project managers when the project was launched. I suppose she could have rambled off a list at the end of her speech of a bunch of these other guys (and of course women like Sheryl, without whom there'd probably not be a Shangri La album and tour). But she yacked ad hoc for so long that there just didn't seem to be an opportunity.

I thought her anecdotal "speech" was everything others have said: airheaded and incoherent and fun. (In fact, as is typical for me these days, I like hearing her talk a lot more than I like hearing her sing.) But I don't think it was even her best (or near her best) rambling-style speech. While she's speaking, she seems to vaguely recall having mentioned many of these stories before and so she ellides them almost subconsciously until they make no sense if you aren't already aware of what she's referring to. I would imagine that a huge portion of that audience (which was there to see the Cure and Def Leppard and Roxy Music) was completely lost.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1251524)
I guess the fans weren't mentioned, either. What a surprise.

Yes, the people who contributed the most, each in their own way, to her solo career are:

Paul Fishkin
Danny Goldberg
(they together with her formed Modern Records....and Paul especially encouraged her that it was ok to do this outside of FM and they wouldn't get all mad)

Jimmy Iovine

Howard Kaufman -- he negotiated in a VERY hardass way to get her the most money ALWAYS ... I recall LB commenting on the planning of one of their tours (I think post Chris leaving) and saying "You know Howard will always take care of Stevie".... he was also the one who always took her to task when she p*ssed away too much money and worked hard to make sure she had long term investments and planned for the future when her own inclination was to party it all away)

Sharon and Lori -- they ARE, with Waddy, a MAJOR factor in her solo "sound"

Tom Petty -- for giving her her first hit, along with MIKE who also gave her lots of tracks to write to when her own limited musical well dried up

Really all the musicians on her first albums-especially Benmont and Roy Bittan who worked very hard on helping her arrange her songs and turn her plinking piano playing into real songs (Benmont has talked about how Jimmy asked him when prepping for BD to go sit with her and play her songs and work with her on them to get them into a form they could present to the rest of the band)

Karen-- I know she's controversial with a lot of fans, but she gets PAID to be the "bad cop" so Stevie doesn't have to...she has kept this woman going for a very, very long time... who else recalls the interview where Stevie couldn't figure out how to turn the lights on or the tv and bellowed, "KAREN!!!" Like her or not, she's the one that actually manages day to day life for her and works with her managers etc to get her where she needs to be in order to have any success...

Herbie for being the key architect in her visual style and image.

And oh yeah, all those fans who plunked down hard-earned cash for her albums and concerts.. without whom she'd be singing as she cleaned toilets.

Who knows who else......

But she'll want to think she's so genius it was all her.

HomerMcvie 04-01-2019 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1251540)

But she'll want to think she's so genius it was all her.

I doubt, if in the history of the world, that any CREDIBLE person has ever called $tevie Nicks a genius.

The dumbass can't even turn on her TV or lights!:laugh::laugh::laugh:


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