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Macfan4life 04-18-2017 05:13 PM

Sheryl Crow still wants to join Fleetwood Mac
 
Excellent interview with Sheryl on Howard Stern today. Here is a transcript. She was a friend of Prince which brought out the Stevie Stand Back story with Prince and then Howard asked about her joining Fleetwood Mac.

"You have to seize the moment, every opportunity, to tell the people that you care about that you care about them. And I wish I would have done that more," Sheryl said. She also bought into Howard's theory that Prince's personal injuries might have been caused by jumping around in his signature high heels. Stevie Nicks even once told her about playing basketball with Prince while he wore pumps.
Speaking of Stevie Nicks, Howard asked Sheryl about rumors she almost joined the band Fleetwood Mac. Sheryl revealed she was close to coming on as a new member but things simply didn't line up. "I wish I would've. I wish I could have," she said.
Howard heard it was longtime member Lindsey Buckingham who had a problem with inducting Sheryl into the band. "Well, I felt like if there was gonna be bad blood when I joined, that perhaps maybe I shouldn't. I didn't want to upset something that was already so beautiful," Sheryl said. "I would still love to do it. I'm putting it out there."

Both Robin and Howard joked that bad blood in Fleetwood Mac is not a bad thing since the band seemed to thrive on it :eek:
I would have loved to have seen Stevie play basketball with Prince. She mentioned it happened at Sunset Sound during the recording of Stand Back.

https://www.howardstern.com/show/201...ing-superstar/

24karatstevie 04-18-2017 08:42 PM

Just wondering why Lindsey had a problem with Sheryl joining the band? Is it just because it would be someone new?

BombaySapphire3 04-18-2017 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 24karatstevie (Post 1207438)
Just wondering why Lindsey had a problem with Sheryl joining the band? Is it just because it would be someone new?

She is a close friend of Stevie's.

LB Freakazoid 04-18-2017 08:53 PM

I think it was, "how would it work?" Would FM play Sheryl songs like a backing band? Would she step into Chris's songs? I remember seeing some interview where he could not wrap his head around how you could combine the two entities that were as big as they are.
I agree with him. It would have been clunky.

BLY 04-18-2017 09:13 PM

I love Sheryl but this would never have worked at that point in time. The "Buckingham Nicks " years of the MAC were great now it's time for the "return" of Buckingham McVie.

aleuzzi 04-18-2017 09:16 PM

Sheryl is a talented singer-songwriter and performer, but there's no way she would have worked in FM.

SteveMacD 04-18-2017 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LB Freakazoid (Post 1207441)
I think it was, "how would it work?" Would FM play Sheryl songs like a backing band?

Ask Dave Mason.

And, really, it's not like that would have been new. It's not like they didn't do Stand Back, HAEWAFY, Go Insane, Get Like You Used To Be, I'd Rather Go Blind, and Don't Let Me Down Again.

dreamsunwind 04-18-2017 09:20 PM

It was a terrible idea, I'm glad he and whoever else didn't want it made sure it didn't happen.

SteveMacD 04-18-2017 09:28 PM

Until Christine came back, Colbie Caillat would have been my pick. She had a few of her own hits, her voice could easily cover Christine's songs, and there's a natural connection with the band, although I didn't know how bad relations between Ken and the band had gotten.

Lola 04-18-2017 09:30 PM

Agree 100%

Lola 04-18-2017 09:37 PM

Agree 100 with those who are glad it didn't happen. For some reason my response didn't show where it thought it would.

dreamsunwind 04-18-2017 10:11 PM

After a band breaks it big with a specific lineup and has a string of successes with that lineup, that lineup is seen as classic/definitive. Adding someone else to it, especially someone like Sheryl Crow who was already known for her own career, is bizarre in my opinion and a terrible idea regardless.
While I wasn't around back then, that's basically how I feel about what the band did in the late 80s throughout the 90s prior to The Dance. From my perspective, it was Mick milking the gravy train as far as he could take it.

Macfan4life 04-19-2017 05:14 AM

I understand why Stevie wanted this. Christine had left and she wanted a friend in the band. But thankfully Lindsey's protest came through. I don't think Mick or John would have cared. Long term it would have really hurt the band and Lindsey could have left again and everything could have collapsed.

bwboy 04-19-2017 06:30 AM

In an interview with Lindsey, he said that Stevie was the one who got upset when Sheryl started floating the idea in the media. He even said Stevie's friendship with Sheryl cooled for a while. This interview was collected in the book Fleetwood Mac on Fleetwood Mac by Sean Egan.

Macfan4life 04-19-2017 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1207475)
In an interview with Lindsey, he said that Stevie was the one who got upset when Sheryl started floating the idea in the media. He even said Stevie's friendship with Sheryl cooled for a while. This interview was collected in the book Fleetwood Mac on Fleetwood Mac by Sean Egan.

Lindsey is on the record opposing this from the beginning. He did interviews where he openly objected to this. He even mocked the idea what her role would be... to do Christine songs?
Stevie was best friends with Sheryl. I think you have the story mixed up. It was Lindsey who heard about it in the media and got pissed and shot it down immediately. It was Stevie that offered it to Sheryl without consulting the rest of the band. Then it hit the media and Lindsey responded in the media.
Nice try :)

SisterNightroad 04-19-2017 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1207475)
In an interview with Lindsey, he said that Stevie was the one who got upset when Sheryl started floating the idea in the media. He even said Stevie's friendship with Sheryl cooled for a while. This interview was collected in the book Fleetwood Mac on Fleetwood Mac by Sean Egan.

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1207478)
Lindsey is on the record opposing this from the beginning. He did interviews where he openly objected to this. He even mocked the idea what her role would be... to do Christine songs?
Stevie was best friends with Sheryl. I think you have the story mixed up. It was Lindsey who heard about it in the media and got pissed and shot it down immediately.
Nice try :)

If I remember well I've read that Stevie would have been happy if Sheryl had joined FM, what she (and all of FM for that matter) wasn't very happy with was the fact that Sheryl immediately shared the story with the media before it was actually decided if she would enter or not.
Perhaps that was the bad blood Sheryl was referring to, she must have got a glimpse of what FM internal strives are like then.

bombaysaffires 04-19-2017 01:29 PM

Lindsey's issue was anybody other than Chris singing Chris's songs... he felt it became, in his words, "lounge-y" i.e. like a cover band even though the other 4 people onstage had in fact played on the original songs. He was never a supporter of doing the Queen, Journey, Van Halen et al thing of replacing a singer and having he new person sing on the old hits. So no matter who it was or how they'd do it, to him it would be second-class.

bombaysaffires 04-19-2017 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1207475)
In an interview with Lindsey, he said that Stevie was the one who got upset when Sheryl started floating the idea in the media. He even said Stevie's friendship with Sheryl cooled for a while. This interview was collected in the book Fleetwood Mac on Fleetwood Mac by Sean Egan.

this was because Sheryl wasn't following the rules. Fleetwood Mac has a story they want told about things, and there's a hierarchy in the band... I think Stevie didn't like Sheryl not deferring to the wishes of the more "senior" band members wishes on how to roll the whole idea out. And I'm sure Stevie knows that they'd have to handle it in a way that didn't go contrary to Lindsey's wished. Sheryl opened a can of worms by talking about it before the band had come to consensus about how to frame it, how to spin how this wasn't a lounge act thing to do etc.

Jondalar 04-19-2017 02:06 PM

It's obvious they didn't want to make the band the Sheryl Crow.

bwboy 04-19-2017 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1207478)
Lindsey is on the record opposing this from the beginning. He did interviews where he openly objected to this. He even mocked the idea what her role would be... to do Christine songs?
Stevie was best friends with Sheryl. I think you have the story mixed up. It was Lindsey who heard about it in the media and got pissed and shot it down immediately. It was Stevie that offered it to Sheryl without consulting the rest of the band. Then it hit the media and Lindsey responded in the media.
Nice try :)

Thank you. I'm guessing you haven't read the book Fleetwood Mac on Fleetwood Mac, which reprints the interview with Lindsey Buckingham in which he made those comments about Sheryl and Stevie.

That doesn't negate anything you said Lindsey said, btw. Both stories can be equally true.

elle 04-19-2017 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1207541)
Thank you. I'm guessing you haven't read the book Fleetwood Mac on Fleetwood Mac, which reprints the interview with Lindsey Buckingham in which he made those comments about Sheryl and Stevie.

That doesn't negate anything you said Lindsey said, btw. Both stories can be equally true.

i'm agreeing with bwboy, for once - what's the world coming to?!?!?! :lol: :angel:

i've seen Sheryl live btw, and esd extremely pleasantly surprised - she is a great and dynamic performer, who can actually add to FM if they ever decided to go that way. i think it's actually pretty cool and brave of her to not mind just putting it out there that she'd still love to join the band, whether or not they are interested.

bwboy 04-19-2017 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1207547)
i'm agreeing with bwboy, for once - what's the world coming to?!?!?! :lol: :angel:

i've seen Sheryl live btw, and esd extremely pleasantly surprised - she is a great and dynamic performer, who can actually add to FM if they ever decided to go that way. i think it's actually pretty cool and brave of her to not mind just putting it out there that she'd still love to join the band, whether or not they are interested.

Lol! It's enough to make Murrow Turn Over in His Grave!

Btw, in the April 21 issue of Entertainment Weekly, Sheryl says her next album will be a collaborative effort- "I called Keith Richards... I called Stevie Nicks and Don Henley, Willie Nelson and Emmylou Harris." So clearly, Stevie and Sheryl have made up completely.

elle 04-19-2017 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1207554)
Lol! It's enough to make Murrow Turn Over in His Grave!

Btw, in the April 21 issue of Entertainment Weekly, Sheryl says her next album will be a collaborative effort- "I called Keith Richards... I called Stevie Nicks and Don Henley, Willie Nelson and Emmylou Harris." So clearly, Stevie and Sheryl have made up completely.

Keith, Willie and Emmylou sound promising. but argh, then she took a turn for the worse - Stevie and Henley just ruin it for me. :p

Jondalar 04-19-2017 07:34 PM

Her new single reeks. She needs a career boost.

jbrownsjr 04-19-2017 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1207547)
i'm agreeing with bwboy, for once - what's the world coming to?!?!?! :lol: :angel:

i've seen Sheryl live btw, and esd extremely pleasantly surprised - she is a great and dynamic performer, who can actually add to FM if they ever decided to go that way. i think it's actually pretty cool and brave of her to not mind just putting it out there that she'd still love to join the band, whether or not they are interested.

one of the board rules is that you are not allowed to agree w/ bwboy. Gonna have to ban you. Bye felisha!

bwboy 04-20-2017 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1207562)
one of the board rules is that you are not allowed to agree w/ bwboy. Gonna have to ban you. Bye felisha!

That's it, jbrown, I'm reporting you to the moderator!

Oh wait, never mind Lol! :thumbsup:

Macfan4life 04-20-2017 07:41 AM

IMHO common sense tells you the real story. And its exactly how I remember it when it happened. I totally believe Stevie is going to side with her best friend and not turn on her best friend for Lindsey Buckingham. In those days Sheryl and Stevie were so close and two peas in a pod. Do you really think she is going to side with Lindsey and scold Sheryl for something she asked Sheryl something she wanted to do.

jbrownsjr 04-20-2017 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1207570)
IMHO common sense tells you the real story. And its exactly how I remember it when it happened. I totally believe Stevie is going to side with her best friend and not turn on her best friend for Lindsey Buckingham. In those days Sheryl and Stevie were so close and two peas in a pod. Do you really think she is going to side with Lindsey and scold Sheryl for something she asked Sheryl something she wanted to do.

Yep, it was about power. There were Rumours of bringing in Pete Townsend in the 80's.

Macfan4life 04-20-2017 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1207571)
Yep, it was about power. There were Rumours of bringing in Pete Townsend in the 80's.

How about Don Henley talking about merging the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac in the mid 80's. Don Henley was on the cover of Musician Magazine or Drummer Magazine shortly after Building the Perfect Beast came out. He was raving about Lindsey Buckingham who played on his solo album. He said the two had talked and it would be so cool to merge both bands into some creation or something like that.
It was probably all the cocaine talking but I am sure that magazine article can be found. It was 1985.

HomerMcvie 04-20-2017 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1207581)
How about Don Henley talking about merging the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac in the mid 80's. Don Henley was on the cover of Musician Magazine or Drummer Magazine shortly after Building the Perfect Beast came out. He was raving about Lindsey Buckingham who played on his solo album. He said the two had talked and it would be so cool to merge both bands into some creation or something like that.
It was probably all the cocaine talking but I am sure that magazine article can be found. It was 1985.

If it was Musician, I have it somewhere. I subscribed to it for YEARS, until they went belly up, and have almost every issue, stored in boxes....somewhere!!!:lol:

michelej1 04-20-2017 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1207445)
Sheryl is a talented singer-songwriter and performer, but there's no way she would have worked in FM.

Right, just because you have two appealing acts, doesn't mean they'd be appealing together or mesh.

Michele

michelej1 04-20-2017 11:33 AM

Then we had the whole cover story about Sheryl not wanting to rehearse on Mother's Day being the reason things fell apart.

Michele

jbrownsjr 04-20-2017 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1207585)
Right, just because you have two appealing acts, doesn't mean they'd be appealing together or mesh.

Michele

That was a disaster waiting to happen.

TrueFaith77 04-20-2017 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1207587)
Then we had the whole cover story about Sheryl not wanting to rehearse on Mother's Day being the reason things fell apart.

Michele

I had forgotten about that. :lol: Fleetwood Mac is like war, it doesn't wait for Mother's Day.

That was Stevie's way of saying: I gave up having children for Fleetwood Mac.

She's a hoot.

I miss her.

Crow on the other hand may match Stevie for casting couch acumen, but otherwise would be totally inappropriate as a member of Fleetwood Mac.

Because she's terrible.

And she still wants to join??! Did she miss the memo about Christine being back. (Oh! I get it! She wants to replace Stevie. Back-stabber.)

Macfan4life 04-20-2017 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1207583)
If it was Musician, I have it somewhere. I subscribed to it for YEARS, until they went belly up, and have almost every issue, stored in boxes....somewhere!!!:lol:

Start digging!

HomerMcvie 04-20-2017 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1207592)
Start digging!

Ugh, I know they're underneath my "stairs closet", behind MANY MANY MANY boxes of CRAP!

jbrownsjr 04-20-2017 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 1207591)
I had forgotten about that. :lol: Fleetwood Mac is like war, it doesn't wait for Mother's Day.

That was Stevie's way of saying: I gave up having children for Fleetwood Mac.

She's a hoot.

I miss her.

Crow on the other hand may match Stevie for casting couch acumen, but otherwise would be totally inappropriate as a member of Fleetwood Mac.

Because she's terrible.

And she still wants to join??! Did she miss the memo about Christine being back. (Oh! I get it! She wants to replace Stevie. Back-stabber.)

Haha!! And somehow.... I get labeled the trouble maker!! ;)

HomerMcvie 04-20-2017 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1207595)
Haha!! And somehow.... I get labeled the trouble maker!! ;)

I think we've been type cast!

jbrownsjr 04-20-2017 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1207596)
I think we've been type cast!

It's not my fault she looked ridiculous on AHS. Blame the directors.

Macfan4life 04-20-2017 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1207596)
I think we've been type cast!

Yes you two are the Stevie Nicks and Sheryl Crow of the bunch!


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