Chris and Dennis Wilson, yet again.
 

It's very likely that the following is nothing new for many and has been posted before but while searching for the information on the unreleased Dennis Wilson solo album Bamboo I found this lengthy biography that includes some Mac snippets. From http://www.mountvernonandfairway.de/dennis.htm:

(NOTE: GOSSIP ALERT FOR THE FOLLOWING)
What interests me here especially are the recordings that Dennis and Chris supposedly made together; material that I presume only a few have the access to. I was wondering if anyone had any other info on this work? And since Chris appears on the Beach Boys L.A. (Light Album) could it be that Dennis appears on Tusk? Somewhere in that wall of sound, of course, homogenized into total anonymity. ;)

I've heard that Christine has these recordings herself & are locked away somewhere, I assume forever.

Thanks for all these juicy snippets. :) I hadn't heard about Dennis Wilson & Stevie. I had heard about Dennis & Lindsey's girlfriend though. I think her name was Carol Ann or something like that.

Yeah, Carol Ann Harris. I wish Chris would one day let these recordings out into circulation anyway. Dennis and Chris were both on a creative high at the time; Dennis' Pacific Ocean Blue solo album is probably the best solo album ever made by a Beach Boy (only rivalled by Brian's solo debut). But maybe they're all too personal for her so she doesn't want to share them with anyone. :(

Sheesh, that Dennis, what a piece of work. Stevie, too.

I used to listen to Pacific Ocean Blue all the time, many years back...haven't heard that album in AGES but it was *really* good.

Would love to someday hear what Chris and Dennis had worked on together.

-Lis

How does this person know Dennis and Stevie shacked up? I went to the site, but did not see anything.

Uh, Strand...
 

Carl Wilson's first solo effort also should be mentioned in the same breath as Dennis' POB, as well.

I love Stevie but damn--the girl got around!

Damn, she needed some SUPERGLUE between her knees!!
:p :p :p

LOL - you are so bad.

Interestingly, many think that line is not about Stevie sleeping around, many think it means, LB I do not want to marry you - I just want to live together, hence the term "shakin up" - but who knows.

Again, did this person watch Dennis and Stevie go at it :eek: I mean they assert this without saying how they know it. I hate it when people do that. I am too much of a skeptic I guess :laugh:

Well there is a theory that all of Lindsey's girlfriends after Stevie have all resembled her in a way. ;)

OK, am I the only one who went and dug up Pacific Ocean Blue?

I went down in the basement and put it on the turntable, and within a few minutes i was weepy. Moonshine is SUCH a stunningly beautiful song, there aren't words. I played it like 4 times in a row. Marty actually dragged his @$$ away from the computer for a few minutes and came down and listened too. You just can't help but be moved by that song.

Dennis was a talented man. Living in his brother's shadow could not have been easy. Plus w/ the messed up childhood they had....sigh. I feel guilty for the bad thoughts I had about him today.....but i think I fixed my karma a bit by playing his music. :-)

Had he lived, maybe he would have benefited by some Paxil or Zoloft or something to mellow him out just a tad!

-Lis

The mental image of Stevie and Dennis is well...ewww.

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I think the alcoholism would have killed him. In a way it did. It really is unfortunate. He was the only actual surfer in the band.

Waaaaiiitttt... he proposed to her?!?!? :shocked:

Didn't do that yet but I played tracks from Bamboo instead and it's almost as great. :)
Yup, this book excerpt at BLA confirms it:
http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.ph...x_v2&id=19&c=2

Wow, I read that article. Sounds like Dennis Wilson was a HUGE LOSER - Beach Boy or not! Surprising that Lindsey still wrote a moving song in his honor even after he banged Lindsey's girlfriend. But it seems everyone let Dennis get away with murder. :shrug:

I always thought he was as ugly as they come! (never saw what Chris might've seen)... :shrug:

There were times when he looked mighty endearing, w/ that scruffiness to him.... There's a hot picture of him inside Pacific Ocean Blue that I should get Marty to help me post here. He's shirtless but wearing overalls, and has a really good body. Not that he was gorgeous, but I can see what Chris saw in him. Physically, at least!

-Lis

Yeah I was the one that transcribed that whole thing, yikes was that tedious! That 'cow' comment was pretty awful. I can't imagine that was the type of interaction they had when things were good for them though! I hope not anyway. That interview was done at a really weird time shortly after the splits, but I think it offers a good peek at how things had deteriorated. I think John's other comments about 'being living proof that there is life after death' and 'is there sex after death?' are pretty revealing of how he was hurting at the time.

--Lis

I have that Laura Gross interview on CD. The "cow" comment really surprised me. John was obviously drunk. I don't think he ever would have said that to Chris if he were sober. Actually, John does have quite a bit to say in this interview. Now days, he hardly ever says a word.

Wow, the "cow" comment is really low. That really took me by surprise. He had to be drunk in this interview... John seems too nice to say something like that while sober. Thank God he's all right now.

-Kate

That was just staged. They were poking fun at the tabloid aspect of their reputation at that time, which was building in intensity. John & Christine took the ball & ran with it for a bit; they're both inclined to brittle, depreciating humor (we should spell it humour because it's so definably British). That was Laura's actual impression of it all.

>>>That was just staged. They were poking fun at the tabloid aspect of their reputation at that time, which was building in intensity. John & Christine took the ball & ran with it for a bit; they're both inclined to brittle, depreciating humor (we should spell it humour because it's so definably British). That was Laura's actual impression of it all.>>>

Yeah, I agree w/ everything above. Although you can certainly hear the hurt behind the humour IMO. I don't think John was drunk at all, actually, he was far too well spoken throughout the rest of the interview!

Years later in a 1987 joint interview w/ Stevie and John, Laura reminded them that she had done that interview back in 1976 right after all the splits, and John was so intrigued by that! He kept asking her, "How was it? Do you still have it? How was it?" I wonder if he ever heard it, it seemed like he really wanted a copy LOL.

He actually said something so similar in 1997 regarding the 'shut up' comment-- I think it was at the end of a VH1 Timeline special-- and the 5 of them were sitting there and Chris was saying how years ago 'there was animosity hanging around the two ex-couples' and John interjects in almost a whisper, "Oh, shut up, kid!" and she says, "YOU know what I mean!" while M, L and S all laugh. I think that's just the way John is, a bit rough around the edges sometimes but really a big softie.


-Lis

I approve of very little that Dennis did in his private life but his music was very often tremendously beautiful, either in an uplifting way or in a depressing way. Just listen to the Beach Boys' "Forever" or Pacific Ocean Blue (long out of print, btw) and it's hard to believe a person like that did such music. But as one reviewer once said in his review of POB: "it's one thing to elevate yourself to the level of abstract beauty and Love, and another thing to practice the same on your everyday level. But you knew that, didn't you?". :)

OK, finally got Marty to do this for me, as I am an idiot w/ computers.

The first one I just thought was a hot picture of Dennis. He had a certain something about him. :-)

The other one-- isn't that a riot? Pretty scary in a way. There are certainly similarities betwen John and Dennis; they are literally dressed in the same clothes LOL. Dennis just forgot to put on his suspenders.

-Lis

hi everyone who do you think is the best looking man christine has dated

all the best

I think John had the most attractive face. Very cool features... A little asymmetrical but still appealling. Even now, look at his face on Say You Will, so striking! Great cheekbones, I'm a sucker for cheekbones. And *such* a warm smile and eyes, his whole face softens when he smiles.

Curry....he was OK, but not all that IMO.

Dennis-- He was OK too. Some years he looked better than others. Also had a great smile.

Eddy-- The least attractive, IMO. Quite frankly, I could never see what she saw in him... he always looked sort of greasy and icky.

-Lis

hi i must agree with you on eddy hes not good looking at all
also i think a q and a with george hawkins to be a good as hes last one gave a lot o info
by for now

Here is picture of Eddy with Christine:

http://www.angelfire.com/mt/songbird/chriseddy.jpg

Claudia, that link to the picture of Eddy & Christine isn't showing up. :confused:

By the way, if you happen to have the Tango & BTM tourbooks, there are quite a few pictures of him in both of them. I don't have a scanner, so I can't post them here.

Oops, Just go to http://www.angelfire.com/mt/songbird/songphotos.html on the 1980s section, the first two pictures.

Claudia just posted 2 pictures from the BTM tourbook. There's an additional picture of just Eddy in the BTM tourbook. It's on the first page of 4 pages of pictures. It's just to the right of the very nice picture of John holding his baby daughter. Eddy is shown smoking a cigarette. There are 2 pictures of Eddy in the Tango tourbook. There is one on the first page of 4 pages of pictures. It's at the bottom just to the left of a picture of Chris & Mick's daughter. There is an additional picture of Chris & Eddy on page 2 of the pictures. They are shown holding their 3 dogs. Hope this helps. :)

Resurrecting an old thread, but it seemed the best place to file these anecdotes...I think I would have beat the sh*t out of them, myself...

From: http://brianwilsonfans.com/a_dw.php


Almost as soon as the reception of Pacific Ocean Blue suggested that Dennis might have a meaningful life outside The Beach Boys, it all started to fall apart. In the carefree pre-Manson days, Denny and his pals Gregg Jakobson and Terry Melcher had a self-explantory boys club they called The Golden Penetrators, complete with gold-painted car parked on the Wilson property. And these were married men. Dennis was the cliched male who thought with his cock, and whatever advice it gave he accepted unquestioningly. But as ’60s consciousness exploration and freedom were corrupted by ’70s chemical abuse and indulgence, things took on an increasingly ugly edge. Ed Roach remembers coming to blows with Dennis at Christine McVie’s home when she and The Beach Boy were involved. “It was over a woman,” he admits somewhat sheepishly. “A ridiculous fight all over the house, while Fleetwood Mac were out on the road. Christine had bought an antique piano bench from Tallulah Bankhead, worth $10,000, and Dennis cracked it over my back. I jumped and grabbed the crystal chandelier to kick him like Errol Flynn and the whole thing came crashing down. It was crazy, and the excess fuel in our systems didn’t help.” And, it must be pointed out, the woman they were brawling over was neither Dennis’ girlfriend nor Ed’s domestic partner, but the wife of another Mac member. As the ’70s progressed, the penetrations were no longer so golden.

But the Dennis Wilson who burned Christine McVie’s pool house to the ground – prompting her pointedly dry remark to Gregg Jakobson, “A bit excessive, your friend Dennis, isn’t he?” – was also the same man-child who had a large heart composed of red and white flowers planted in McVie’s garden, where he serenaded her backed by a string quartet. (That Chris ultimately wound up with the bill in no way diminishes the gesture of a man who, when he had it, happily gave away everything he had.)
A decade earlier he had confided to a friend, “I could probably never be happier in my life, could never make things better than I have them right now, yet I know I’m gonna **** it up. It’s not that I think that, I know it. I have to **** it up. I don’t know why. It’s just too perfect, so I’ve gotta **** it up.”

Duh, she shacked up with everyone. Doesn't take a scientist.

Oh my goodness. Dennis is long dead and there's no need for me to heap my scorn on him now, but shaking my fist over that broken piano bench.

Michele

Oh my goodness. Dennis is long dead and there's no need for me to heap my scorn on him now, but shaking my fist over that broken piano bench. Did Dennis even like Christine? Were there times when he supported her and cared about her feelings or showed her any respect? I know you think there must have been, but ...

Just did a search and read Bankhead's will. One bequest is: R. To JESSE W. LEVY, my Baldwin grand piano and bench.


Michele

A 'golden penetrator' meets the 'gold dust woman'? Well, how could anything else have happened... what eedjeets :(

Hmmm, have to think in some ways that would diminish the gesture, but thinking isn't some folks' strong suit... like going diving while extremely intoxicated. Oops. :(

Ha. Oh good heavens, there is no end to what kind of thoughtful, unique and romantic gifts I could give, if I didn't have to pay for them.

Michele

Help !!!!!!
 

I am looking for some help finding a very old made for TV movie... Possibly "80's era??
I cannot tell you the title or the actors... only that it dealt with Dennis Wilson and Chris McVie....

Though a Fleetwood Mac Fan.... I was not aware of the personal relationship so did NOT know it was about Chris...

It has to be out there somewhere.......and there has to be another old foggy that remembers it???

Thanks,
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