Stevie Nicks is a distraction Fleetwood Mac cannot afford...
 

In the interest of fairness...

Stevie:

- Says there's no money in new music so refuses to make a new album

- Won't get out of bed to rehearse until after 3pm

- Calls Lindsey 'Mr Useless'

We all know that Buckingham/McVie was supposed to be the new Mac album. They could be touring behind it now as a group. So Ms Nicks's attitude is holding the group back from moving on.

Discuss...

I am at a total loss of any kind of explanation. The only thing I can think of is, perhaps, Stevie is wrapping up her solo career and is seeking to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a solo artist. Otherwise, I have absolutely no idea. They could have been on their second or third Fleetwood Mac album by now since the reformation of the the five fireflies in 2014. I still hold hope the upcoming Buckingham solo project slated for early 2018 morphs into the last great Mac album followed by the Farewell Tour. In these strange times, who can say? The world needs a great Fleetwood Mac album, especially now. Yes, I love Buckingham McVie; though, imagine if it was a double album with all five members. What's baffling is there's no explanation from the band.

I love Stevie, but this has been so frustrating to me.

You miss Christine. Christine comes back. Now you don't want to do an album with all 5 members. I understand you want to tour with 24K but you don't want to do an album at all because you say no one will buy it.

But you will do a solo album that won't sell as much as a Mac album would. The biggest frustration is that she wants to tour with the Mac. So lets just go out do the same songs and make millions from us fans, but don't give us new music. I still love her and follow her career but it's not quite the same following this past year.

So the sleeping during the day thing has been what she does since what...1974? This is not a newflash to the members of FM or anyone else. The Mr. Useless comment is being taken way out of context in my opinion and is nothing worse than he has said or done to her in the past. And I suspect that she is just truly over the control freak in the studio so doesnt want to record with him anymore.

She should hire you as her publicist.

Lort knows she could use one, lately.

I guess she had me fooled for awhile. I thought she really showed Christine McVie a lot of respect when Christine retired. But, her attitude and comments over the past several years have really eroded my interest in her. (sans WH and BD remasters... I obsess over those albums because they are just so damn good)

In my opinion, her ignorance is quite staggering. It's not just the useless comment. Her comments about making money in music, and growing old, and body shaming people her age tell me that she has no idea what it would be like to live in a world without mega money and a staff and posse always telling you how amazing you are.

She's lost her mind for making some of the comments that she has. Mr. Useless? The guy that got you in the band that made you the pseudo diva you are today is useless??? The guy that told an already famous band that he's not joining unless Stevie joins too?? Bitch please, have several seats and shut the hell up. You are so full of yourself.

Continue to have people write for you and do another solo album. Collaborate with some young artists and/or soundtrack (the last one was beautiful). And just stop talking. STOP TALKING. Nobody gives a damn that you can't wake up at a reasonable hour to work with the band that got you there. STOP TALKING ABOUT LINDSEY SO MUCH IF YOU DON'T WANT TO WORK WITH HIM. Next time someone wants to interview you, DECLINE!!

and that's just HOW I FEEL... pun intended.

:xoxo::xoxo::xoxo:

She should leave the band and just do her own thing. I think that's what she actually wants to do, anyway.

I wish they had the balls to just go on without her.

I believe this topic was beat to death several months ago when we all finally realized Stevie was not going to go into the studio with the Mac. I admit I was shocked she declined. She was always there for the Mac. But I called out her outrageous and false statements about why she did not join the Mac in the studio. It was bitter for me because the miracle of Christine coming back to the band made me dream of one final Mac album. However, I have accepted this and love the Buck/McVie album although I would have preferred a Mac album. Stevie's latest comments reveal she is jealous or not ok that Lindsey and most of the band went on without her. I also strongly believe if you decline to record with your band then you have officially left the band. I don't understand why she only wants to tour. She has one foot in and one foot out of the band. Its not right
Just imagine if Lindsey said "Stevie was Miss Useless back then. I stayed home, practiced guitar and developed our music career. She just cleaned toilets while I worked on music. Lindsey would be called out for being so harsh. So I think her statement was wrong even though she meant it as a joke. Lindsey worked so hard and that is why he was asked to join the Mac and they made it in music. She is not ok with this latest Lindsey adventure and she is using code language to say it.

Thank you for being a coherent Stevie fans. :wavey:

What irks me the most is how she talked during 16 years about Christine's absence and how much she missed her, and how she reached to her when she wanted to come back, but once she does, and Christine wants to make new music, her hate towards Lindsey prevented her from helping her so-called friend. Forget Lindsey, what she did to Christine is what bothers me the most.

Like I said before I read your comment :D what angers me the most is her attitude towards Christine. You wanted her to come back, she did and how do you pay her? You refused to work with her on her new material, only because you want to be the boss around Lindsey.

Pathetic, and the only thing you're showing here is that you're still in love with him. Because she is. She dumped him 40 years ago and she still wants him around her to worship her. Not anymore, because he has Christine now.

Mr. Useless and Christine f*cking McVie are the new King and Queen of FM, baby!!! :]:]:D

I love you! :angel:

She's doing just fine. Also, Fleetwood Mac hasn't been a "band" since the 80's. Lindsey and Christine certainly took lots of time off. Stevie can as well.

Get those shirts made!!! hahahaha

Then why they continue touring if they are not a band? Because Stevie is certainly ready to tour, but not to record an album.

Stevie can take all the time in the world for herself. So much she can leave the "band" if she wants. But she doesn't. :shrug:

:xoxo:

And I can show them in those Cali concerts! Don't tempt me! :lol: :angel:

I think it is safe to say that we finally agree on something. LOL I too am to the point where I wish she would leave FM. We are only going to get a few more years out of any of them and I prefer to hear her solo.

Stevie DID take a lot of time off from the band, when she quit from 1991-97, and during the extended break the band took from 2004-2009, in which she didn't do anything new. I think her creative well dried up.

And continues to be dried up.

Thank goodness for all those old demos.

Time will tell how that all turns out. You will eat your words.

Stevie wants to have her cake and eat it. Be in the band but not do any of the risky, difficult stuff. She may well have had very valid reasons for not contributing to what was clearly meant to be a group album - and of course there will undoubtedly be things happening within the band that we don't know about - but as many of us have observed, this is holding the band back when there is really not much time left for them to make any new musical work.

It's poignant and frustrating to listen to the sentiments expressed in 'Carnival Begin' and 'On With The Show' when both of those songs were obviously written for a Mac album and would only make proper sense within the context of Fleetwood Mac.

I really wish that they had been able to persuade Stevie to contribute. But it seems crazy for the band to continue touring, all the while trying to pretend that it's business as usual. The rest of the band want to strike out and make new music, and not just be a 'heritage' band playing the old stuff. Christine wants it all - how much does Stevie want?

Personally, I accept Fleetwood Mac as it is, the good and the bad, the dark and the light. The music, the shows, the solo work, the absence of ​regular albums. I don't blame any one member of the band. I see a difficult dynamic with 2 ex-couples, 3 men, 2 women. To me, it just mirrors life, and the difficulties that we all experience in relationships, and that comes through in the music. I think it's amazing they have got this far. Christine needed 16 years away to come back with the enthusiasm that she now has.

I appreciate what music we do have, and I'm not expecting anything from any of them if they don't want to do it.

But that's just me, and I realise other fans will feel differently and feel frustration and disappointment. In a perfect world we'd have regular new albums with all 5, but the world isn't perfect and neither is the band or the people in it.

Stevie is such an easy target for all the blame and anger, but I can not see how the other 4 are totally faultless. We just don't know what is going on behind the scenes, and I wish everyone wasn't so quick to judge.

So THAT'S what she calls it. :lol::eek::lol::eek::lol:

It's the "I don't get out of bed until 3 and he wants me to rehearse at 2" thing that gets me. What on earth? You really don't even wake up until 3 in the afternoon? And you think it's a big deal that someone wants you to go into work at 2 in the afternoon?

You REALLY think that it's not a problem that she doesn't even want to wake up until 3:00 PM and that the rest of the band should just have to deal with that abnormal schedule from her?

And Stevie thinks everyone is a control freak. Not just Lindsey. She's told stories about Don Henley making her do her songs over and over and over until he liked it, she called Kenny Loggins a "slave driver", compared Fleetwood Mac to the army, talked about how harsh Jimmy Iovine was and plenty more. She's overdramatic and has a victim complex. Everything is always everyone else's problem, never her own. The only time she's ever happy in the studio is if she's going solo.

:xoxo::xoxo::nod::xoxo::xoxo:

And I suspect she may also have had her bunch of problems with Dave Stewart....

People care what happened in FM during 1991-97?

I didn't realize FM did anything as band from 2004-2009.

Lindsey Buckingham left the band before they were going on tour. Christine left the band "for good" right after they became somewhat relevant again.

Taking a snooze from FM tours that played such notable venues as Konocti Harbor in the early 90's is hardly comparable.

I don't know if her creative well dried up. I think she was doing what she wanted, the way she's doing now.

I appreciate nostalgia, but when it takes people to the point that they are angrily slinging mud about Stevie Nicks because she doesn't want to participate in a band that stopped being a band in 1987, it's a little nuts. Meanwhile, Buckhingham/McVie has provided a perfectly lovely album and tour, so the anger is that there's no album with some Stevie vocals layered on leading to a greatest hits tour with 2, maybe 3, max of new songs?

You make a very valid point that I hadn't thought of. Could Stevie be seeking a SOLO induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to join the ranks of John Lennon, Eric Clapton, Peter Gabriel, Jimmy Page, Michael Jackson, and more? There are many MEN who have been inducted both with their bands AND solo. She would be one of the few, if any, women. Interesting thought.

Good, because I'm hungry. :lol:

Idk why some people are SO ANGRY. Love is all around, no need to waste it. You can have the town, why don't you take it...

Love is here to stay.... :nod:

It's actually the theme song to The Mary Tyler Moore Show, but you ain't from around these parts...

But thanks for playing! :xoxo:

goat blows one way
time goes
but mcVie is here to stay!

I didn't even know those were the lyrics from a TV theme song. I thought you were just being poetic. :woohoo:

Never watched The Mary Tyler Moore Show. Never watched I love Lucy. :D

I was more like a Mission:Impossible girl. The TV show, of course. And The Avengers. The British TV show, of course. But on reruns. I wasn't even born yet. :p

Haha! Yes! :woohoo:

I might have to pick a BM song and change the lyrics in honor of OGB.... :blob1: So much fun! :thumbsup:

I know.

And I plan on making a Christine F*cking McVie shirt for Louisville. Just for the record!

And when she noticed you, you give her the roses... :]:blob2:

She didn't notice me in Nashville. She was fixated on some damned ginger guy, and was waving at him. :mad::mad::mad:

Then you dye your hair and you try again with the roses, dammit! :xoxo::angel:

When the Red Hair reaches my weave.