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kara 06-19-2012 07:22 PM

Questions About Kristen
 
I have 2 questions. Does anyone know how Lindsey & Kristen meet? & how old is she?

michelej1 06-19-2012 07:34 PM

Lindsey says he met Kristen when his record label hired her to do some publicity photos. She lingered after, he recalls.

There have been other rumors that he met her through her first husband, but all of the interviews say he met her when she was working as a photographer.

Michele

kara 06-19-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1055288)
Lindsey says he met Kristen when his record label hired her to do some publicity photos. She lingered after, he recalls.

There have been other rumors that he met her through her first husband, but all of the interviews say he met her when she was working as a photographer.

Michele


I didn't know Kristen was previously married. I read that they met when she did the photography for The Damce.

michelej1 06-19-2012 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kara (Post 1055293)
I didn't know Kristen was previously married. I read that they met when she did the photography for The Damce.

I don't think she was working on Dance photography, probably for his solo stuff that did not get off the ground at that time.

Michele

kara 06-19-2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1055296)
I don't think she was working on Dance photography, probably for his solo stuff that did not get off the ground at that time.

Michele


Thanks. That's interesting.

CADreaming 06-19-2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kara (Post 1055293)
I didn't know Kristen was previously married.

Apparently, twice. She was credited in a movie as Brittney Hansen and press stated she was Gale Hansen's wife. She was also married to Gary Briggs, who was a WB A&R man, now with New West Records.

michelej1 06-19-2012 10:26 PM

It was discussed here. http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/sh...sen#post806128

Actually, I don't think Gale Hansen was ever married to Kristen. I don't think he'd go out of his way to change his IMDB so emphatically -- so that it calls attention to the marriage issue, even to people who aren't even questioning it -- if there was a public marriage or divorce record of him being espoused to anyone but his current wife.

There's proof that Kristen was married and divorced from Briggs.

Michele

CADreaming 06-20-2012 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1055329)
It was discussed here. http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/sh...sen#post806128

Actually, I don't think Gale Hansen was ever married to Kristen. I don't think he'd go out of his way to change his IMDB so emphatically -- so that it calls attention to the marriage issue, even to people who aren't even questioning it -- if there was a public marriage or divorce record of him being espoused to anyone but his current wife.

There's proof that Kristen was married and divorced from Briggs.

Michele

Well, it's bizarre that she was publicized as Gale's wife if she wasn't, with the same last name, unless they were siblings & if that was the case then somebody's bio is all jacked up. As for not claiming the marriage, I had a brief first marriage that I would just as soon write off my books. I could see how someone might want to erase any record, especially if there was bad taste left - and no kids.

I wasn't aware there was "proof" about the divorce from Briggs, on paper anyway:

http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/sh...&postcount=147

holidayroad 06-20-2012 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kara (Post 1055284)
I have 2 questions. Does anyone know how Lindsey & Kristen meet? & how old is she?

I thought I read somewhere that she was born in either 1970 or 1971. Does that sound accurate to anyone?

CADreaming 06-20-2012 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by holidayroad (Post 1055373)
I thought I read somewhere that she was born in either 1970 or 1971. Does that sound accurate to anyone?

Yeah, I read 1970. Feb. 28th, I think.

WildHearted 06-20-2012 10:13 AM

Holy crap, she's a lot younger than I thought. I thought she was like 50.. not early 40s (nothing to do with the way she looks, just something I assumed).

Ashley 06-20-2012 11:26 AM

So, Kristen was born in 1970. When watching Lindsey's Behind the Music, she sounds so young.

michelej1 06-20-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 1055362)
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I wasn't aware there was "proof" about the divorce from Briggs, on paper anyway:

Yes, the divorce was a normal dissolution matter and on the Los Angeles Superior Court website, with the complete docket listing all filings in the matter and the date the divorce was final.

I think it's rather easy for a press release to say people are married when they are not, whether the error is intentional or otherwise. Sonny and Cher lied about being married for years. The reason they really couldn't marry is that they became famous as a singing duo before his divorce from his first wife was final. So, they didn't marry until 1969. Before that there were hundreds, if not thousands of press accounts saying they were married.

Michele

WildHearted 06-20-2012 12:16 PM

Heck, there are articles naming Lindsey and Stevie as ex-husband and ex-wife.

michelej1 06-20-2012 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 1055362)
Well, it's bizarre that she was publicized as Gale's wife if she wasn't, with the same last name, unless they were siblings & if that was the case then somebody's bio is all jacked up. As for not claiming the marriage, I had a brief first marriage that I would just as soon write off my books. I could see how someone might want to erase any record, especially if there was bad taste left - and no kids.

Gale Hansen is doing more than not claiming the marriage. His bio is unusual for IMDB in that he emphasizes that his current wife has been his ONLY wife since 1986. I think he is saying that claims to the contrary are a big fat lie and I believe him. Marriage, birth and death certificates are a matter of public record and the information is all online these days. Just as name changes and divorces filings are. If the entry in his bio was false that could be easily established by the same people who made him want to clarify the fact that he wasn't married before in the first place.

Now, you'd have to know what state a person was married in to find a marriage record. Maybe he and Brittney or Kristen weren't married in California. Maybe they were married in Tijuana or Alabama, in which case no one would ever think to check for a license there, but there's also no record of divorce. In California.

At any rate, I believe the correction he has emphasized in his bio.

Michele

kara 06-20-2012 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley (Post 1055406)
So, Kristen was born in 1970. When watching Lindsey's Behind the Music, she sounds so young.


If you think about it, she is really young.

CADreaming 06-20-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1055419)
Gale Hansen is doing more than not claiming the marriage. His bio is unusual for IMDB in that he emphasizes that his current wife has been his ONLY wife since 1986. I think he is saying that claims to the contrary are a big fat lie and I believe him. Marriage, birth and death certificates are a matter of public record and the information is all online these days. Just as name changes and divorces filings are. If the entry in his bio was false that could be easily established by the same people who made him want to clarify the fact that he wasn't married before in the first place.

Now, you'd have to know what state a person was married in to find a marriage record. Maybe he and Brittney or Kristen weren't married in California. Maybe they were married in Tijuana or Alabama, in which case no one would ever think to check for a license there, but there's also no record of divorce. In California.

At any rate, I believe the correction he has emphasized in his bio.

Michele

Don't know about all that - just pointed out how weird it is. Brittney Hansen, Gale Hansen - not exactly Smith or Jones. That's all.
I have no real care one way or the other. It's just weird.

But, out of curiosity - can't people seal records where they wouldn't be available to the public?

michelej1 06-20-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 1055422)
Don't know about all that - just pointed out how weird it is. Brittney Hansen, Gale Hansen - not exactly Smith or Jones. That's all.
I have no real care one way or the other. It's just weird.

But, out of curiosity - can't people seal records where they wouldn't be available to the public?

You can seal a divorce, but not its filing. Just the contents of the file. So, I could see that you filed for divorce, but I wouldn't be able to access the other paperwork that was filed after the case commenced.

But I see what you mean. I forgot the Briggs filed for divorce in 1996, but that there was no record of further proceedings.

CADreaming 06-20-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1055426)
You can seal a divorce, but not its filing. Just the contents of the file. So, I could see that you filed for divorce, but I wouldn't be able to access the other paperwork that was filed after the case commenced.

But I see what you mean. I forgot the Briggs filed for divorce in 1996, but that there was no record of further proceedings.

Ok, gotcha. Well, that makes sense. I wondered if everybody's dirty laundry is hanging out there for anyone to see.

WildHearted 06-20-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kara (Post 1055421)
If you think about it, she is really young.

20+ years younger than the rest of the FM crew.

michelej1 06-20-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1055433)
20+ years younger than the rest of the FM crew.

I remember at the Soundstage taping he said his mother-in-law was in the audience and I was thinking that the mother-in-law must be his own age.

Michele

rhiannon22 06-20-2012 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1055495)
I remember at the Soundstage taping he said his mother-in-law was in the audience and I was thinking that the mother-in-law must be his own age.

Michele

I had thought about that recently too! Just thinking about Stevie's mom passing and how sad Linds must have been....and then thinking he and Kristen's mom are likely the same age.

So Linds was 21 when Kristen was born.... wow :cool:

Silver Springs 06-23-2012 04:52 PM

My father is a decade older than my Mother, and I never even thought about it if I'm honest. It doesn't affect their relationship (They leave that to everything else), and it's never affected my brother and I's upbringing. So I don't see an age gap being an issue, really. It isn't as though Lindsey's very affected by his age, after all.

CADreaming 06-23-2012 05:11 PM

^Sometimes the age gap, if large enough, can be a real issue in a relationship. My best friend and her husband have 15 years between them. She said it wasn't a big deal at first, they were building a business and raising children. But, as the years progressed it became more apparent that they didn't share the same interests and had different views of the female role. Even though she loves him and has certainly appreciated the security and stability that attracted her to an older man initially, the generation gap only gets worse with time and in her prime she found herself feeling suffocated, lonely and married to an "old man."

elle 06-23-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Springs (Post 1055859)
My father is a decade older than my Mother, and I never even thought about it if I'm honest. It doesn't affect their relationship (They leave that to everything else), and it's never affected my brother and I's upbringing. So I don't see an age gap being an issue, really. It isn't as though Lindsey's very affected by his age, after all.

completely with you Bee! my parents had an age gap of 30 years, had a great relationship, and i could never imagine better parents. so i guess the same as you i have a bit different perspective - and LB/KB age difference doesn't really look like that much to me.

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 1055861)
^Sometimes the age gap, if large enough, can be a real issue in a relationship. My best friend and her husband have 15 years between them. She said it wasn't a big deal at first, they were building a business and raising children. But, as the years progressed it became more apparent that they didn't share the same interests and had different views of the female role. Even though she loves him and has certainly appreciated the security and stability that attracted her to an older man initially, the generation gap only gets worse with time and in her prime she found herself feeling suffocated, lonely and married to an "old man."

it depends on two people, their interests, characters, outlook, tons of things... although the gap between 2 people may be generational, it seems that people you describe had other differences as well, that may or may not stem from their [really not that large] age difference.

in LB's case, he's an extraordinary man, with more energy than people half his age. i can't know anything about his marriage but he seems to be happy and keeps making and performing amazing music - and that's enough for me.

CADreaming 06-23-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1055863)

it depends on two people, their interests, characters, outlook, tons of things... although the gap between 2 people may be generational, it seems that people you describe had other differences as well, that may or may not stem from their [really not that large] age difference.

In her case, she was a child of the '60's, born in 1950 and her husband being from a totally different generation, the gap is pretty noticeable at times - they don't listen to the same music (sometimes a generational issue), they came from different economic status (not a generational issue). There are times he is more like her father than her husband and treats her as such (totally a generational issue). I believe my generation has more in common and is more similar to hers - she is 20 years older than me. But, I do know it's made me think twice about dating anyone that much older.

And, that's not to say there aren't exceptions like you & Bee have experienced. Living in the South may also have something to do with it, I don't know. But, other problems that exist: the decline in health of the older partner, being in different places in your life than your mate, retirement, slowing down, emotional changes, just being on a different page altogether. It's really challenging for some couples.

Anything and everything is new and exciting when you are getting to know someone. But, listening to Frank Sinatra when you're dating can easily become that thing that drives you insane when you're married and you're wishing he listened to Fleetwood Mac or the Stones...or Bon Jovi & Journey & Whitney Houston. LOL.

iamnotafraid 06-24-2012 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 1055882)
other problems that exist: the decline in health of the older partner...


CAD,
I think you hit the nail on the head.
When Lindsey's fallen and can't get
up, will Kristen be there for him?

holidayroad 06-24-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Springs (Post 1055859)
My father is a decade older than my Mother, and I never even thought about it if I'm honest. It doesn't affect their relationship (They leave that to everything else), and it's never affected my brother and I's upbringing. So I don't see an age gap being an issue, really. It isn't as though Lindsey's very affected by his age, after all.

My husband is 13 years old than I am. It works out well for us. I was always 'older than my age'. The age gap seems nonexistent for us. I rarely even think about the age difference. We both love '70s and '80s music, so that has always been a plus!

I've always leaned toward liking older men, even as a teenager and earlier. No surprise that I would be so into Lindsey! :)

CADreaming 06-24-2012 02:16 PM

By the way, my friend and her husband have been married for 34 years. The differences started causing problems about 15 years into the marriage when he started slowing down as she was hitting her stride. She was his mid-life crisis in a way, then when she hit mid-life she realized she was paying a price not being with someone who was from her generation and had some of the same cultural references, shared experiences, views, etc.

Not that it always makes a difference. I just believe eventually the gap shows or at least it in certain areas. And, that doesn't even mean it will cause huge problems.

CADreaming 06-24-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1055913)
CAD,
I think you hit the nail on the head.
When Lindsey's fallen and can't get
up, will Kristen be there for him?

It's something they will address, sooner or later for sure.

My cousin is 20 years younger than her husband and several years ago he suffered from a condition that left him partially paralyzed on his left side. I know that I would have struggled with resentment had I been in her shoes. She's handled it well, but I know it's hard even though they love each other very much.

And, we never know -- anyone can get ill despite age. It's just more likely to happen to the older partner first.

elle 06-24-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 1055960)
someone who was from her generation and had some of the same cultural references, shared experiences, views, etc.

Not that it always makes a difference. I just believe eventually the gap shows or at least it in certain areas. And, that doesn't even mean it will cause huge problems.

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 1055961)
And, we never know -- anyone can get ill despite age. It's just more likely to happen to the older partner first.

completely agree with your second statement. as Bee also said about her experience, everyone kept saying to my parents that age gap will eventually be a problem, including my mom's mom (who was younger than my dad). but - you never know when you'll be walking down the street and brick may fall on your head.:shrug:


re your first statement about cultural and other differences, views, etc - and to get back to LB: look at Lindsey and Stevie who are the same generation (well he's a bit younger) - since that's probably the subtext for many people in this specific LB/KB age-gap discussion -

they started together in one place and have had so much common history and love together since they were teenagers - and that's something they can still build on and remember as they go on. but do they really have so many shared interests now? he's very liberal, she seems to lean conservative. he listens to Dirty Projectors, she listens to Katy Perry :laugh:. with having a family, he finally grew up and became an adult, her interviews seem to still reveal a mind of a young girl without much adult thinking. his music is very different than her music now - both with the Mac and solo. even Lindsey says how musically they started in the same place and went into 2 completely different directions. (although there's some overlap, no wonder that many people who like LB's music don't necessarily like SN's music and vice versa.)

michelej1 06-24-2012 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1055967)
he's very liberal, she seems to lean conservative.

Lindsey said he never thought of her as all that conservative (though he was talking socially, not politically) and I don't think she is either.

Michele

CADreaming 06-24-2012 10:57 PM

I agree. I don't think Stevie is conservative, either socially or politically. Her father may have been conservative and she may agree with some of the fiscal aspects of that, but then again she said she had no idea what her money was invested in.

Also, I actually think Stevie and Lindsey are probably more alike now than they have ever been. They echo one another's views in interviews more often, use the same phrases and terms. Musically, I think they both have a healthy appreciation for all kinds of music. In their personal interpretations, I remember Lindsey saying that they really weren't that different in what they were conveying, just that Stevie would naturally lean more romantic.

It's hard to know what else they might share in common besides maybe an affinity for a good cup of coffee, reading, art, drawing, and vacations in Hawaii.

I know Stevie has a few things in common with Kristen though -- photography, songwriting, decorating, sequencing. :lol:

bombaysaffires 06-25-2012 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 1056014)

It's hard to know what else they might share in common besides maybe an affinity for a good cup of coffee, reading, art, drawing, and vacations in Hawaii.

A good doob.....;)

CADreaming 06-25-2012 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1056027)
A good doob.....;)

:laugh::laugh:

How could I have forgotten that? :wavey:

michelej1 06-25-2012 01:11 PM

Ken wrote how Stevie used to go into Lindsey's bag to get marijuana.

Michele

CADreaming 06-25-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1056056)
Ken wrote how Stevie used to go into Lindsey's bag to get marijuana.

Michele

:laugh: Awesome.

Haven't read it yet.

kara 06-26-2012 01:14 AM

I think it depends on maturity. I don't agree with someone in their early 20s or younger dating someone with a big age diferennce. I think they should at least be in their mid 20s or older.
Another thing that I've noticed that you see older men with younger women. I find that very interesting

WildHearted 06-26-2012 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kara (Post 1056092)
I think it depends on maturity. I don't agree with someone in their early 20s or younger dating someone with a big age diferennce. I think they should at least be in their mid 20s or older.
Another thing that I've noticed that you see older men with younger women. I find that very interesting

Women mature faster than men.. :shrug:

holidayroad 06-26-2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1056097)
Women mature faster than men.. :shrug:

I agree with this. It seems that it is just now that guys my age are finally maturing to the point where I was 15 years ago!!

I noticed the lack of maturity throughout my dating years. When I was 17, I dated someone who was 25. He acted more like he was the same age I was. When I was 24, I was dating someone who was 28 and it seemed more like he was 15.


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