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Cussion 06-25-2006 07:45 AM
The Munich accident
 
We all know about what may have happened to Peter in Munich 1970..

But, has anyone ever tried to track this people down again? The people from the mansion..
Has anybody went there to check that old house in the Munich woods?

Wouter Vuijk 06-25-2006 05:53 PM
And what about the tapes?????:shrug:

SortaSavageLike 06-25-2006 06:11 PM
I'm pretty sure it didn't involve the Israeli Olympic team.

bretonbanquet 06-26-2006 02:01 PM
How many people actually knew where the house was or who the people were? Peter isn't going to remember, but who else was there? Didn't Dinky Dawson go there?

The tapes must surely be lost or else they would have surfaced by now? Or does someone responsible own them?

becca 06-27-2006 08:05 PM
I was just reading in Nick Mason's big book about Pink Floyd how Syd Barrett was living with people who would spike everything with acid and what a zombie it was turning him into. Later in the book after five years of not seeing him, Syd shows up at the Abbey Road studio and nobody recognizes him. Hair gone, looking like a vagrant without friends, gut protruding... sound familiar? It's like reading about either Peter or Danny. :(

Maybe the acid they had in Europe was bad stuff because Jerry Garcia seemed to be okay more or less and did I asume as much as any musician of the '60s. His playing and mind never deteriorated that I know of.

dino 06-28-2006 12:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by becca
I was just reading in Nick Mason's big book about Pink Floyd how Syd Barrett was living with people who would spike everything with acid and what a zombie it was turning him into. Later in the book after five years of not seeing him, Syd shows up at the Abbey Road studio and nobody recognizes him. Hair gone, looking like a vagrant without friends, gut protruding... sound familiar? It's like reading about either Peter or Danny. :(

Maybe the acid they had in Europe was bad stuff because Jerry Garcia seemed to be okay more or less and did I asume as much as any musician of the '60s. His playing and mind never deteriorated that I know of.
Martin Celmins has a fairly good description of the Munich incident in his book on Peter. Apparently Dinky Dawson was there, and Jeremy Spencer seems to indicate that he was too? And they only stayed one night. It need repeating, that the live tapes of the Mac recorded after Munich features some incredible playing from Peter, as does a lot of the music he recorded during the early 70s. His health problems seems to have had more to with schizophrenia, which lsd can trigger. And the problems surely began earlier than Munich. It'd be nice to hear the tapes, though :]

becca 06-28-2006 12:28 AM
Syd Barrett did two solo albums right after the split with Pink Floyd so I suppose he could function some of the time. Perhaps like Danny later (who I read was at that house in Munich but some say he wasn't) he just didn't want to, which I can relate to as a commecial artist who has practically totally stopped doing what at one time I could never imagine not be doing.

I'm pretty much new to these stories of acid fallout but if you could add in Brian Jones... and I see photos of Peter where he is looking happy and healthy and then like the second Manalishi cover and some of the last tour photos looking really strange, like Syd, starting to stick out with scared looking eyes, and Danny had those eyes as well, Kurt Cobain eyes. Well, all I have to go by is stories people tell and photos. Jim Morrison is another who radically changed for the worse over a fairly short period too, and it's said he would go along with anyone while the rest of the band stayed back.

It would sure be nice to know more about all this.

sharksfan2000 06-28-2006 09:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dino
Martin Celmins has a fairly good description of the Munich incident in his book on Peter. Apparently Dinky Dawson was there, and Jeremy Spencer seems to indicate that he was too? And they only stayed one night.
Actually, it seems pretty certain that only Peter and road manager Dennis Keane (or is it Kean or Keen - I've seen it spelled three ways!!) were at the Munich house that one night. Dinky Dawson accompanied Mick & Clifford Davis to retrieve Peter the next morning (and maybe Dennis too, although the accounts vary on whether or not he may have returned earlier without Peter).

Quote:
Originally Posted by dino
It needs repeating, that the live tapes of the Mac recorded after Munich features some incredible playing from Peter, as does a lot of the music he recorded during the early 70s. His health problems seems to have had more to with schizophrenia, which lsd can trigger. And the problems surely began earlier than Munich. It'd be nice to hear the tapes, though
Couldn't agree more!

I'm hardly an expert on LSD, but it seems like it was harmless enough to most people in the '60s. I'd have to guess that, like Peter, a lot of the people who had problems afterwards may have had some underlying and in some cases entirely hidden health issues that were triggered by the acid (like Peter's schizophrenia). I don't know a lot about Syd Barrett, but perhaps that was an issue with him as well. Skip Spence of Jefferson Airplane and Moby Grape was another well-known performer who may have suffered similar problems. Remember that Dennis Keane was also at the Munich house and presumably took the same acid as Peter did, yet according to Celmins' book that had no adverse affect on him.

mzero 06-28-2006 12:20 PM
sf2k is correct, at least according to mc's book it was dennis that was at the munich house with peter.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sharksfan2000

I'm hardly an expert on LSD, but it seems like it was harmless enough to most people in the '60s. I'd have to guess that, like Peter, a lot of the people who had problems afterwards may have had some underlying and in some cases entirely hidden health issues that were triggered by the acid (like Peter's schizophrenia). I don't know a lot about Syd Barrett, but perhaps that was an issue with him as well. Skip Spence of Jefferson Airplane and Moby Grape was another well-known performer who may have suffered similar problems. Remember that Dennis Keane was also at the Munich house and presumably took the same acid as Peter did, yet according to Celmins' book that had no adverse affect on him.
i do know a fair bit about syd barrett. his case is similar in that he was under tremendous pressure to produce hit records and lead the band. was different in that, by all accounts that i've read, he took much more acid than pete (both intentionally and spiked) and very large quantities other drugs (mandrax). some believe this led to serious brain damage as well as induced mental illness. as i recall both roger waters and david gilmour (who both knew him as teenagers) believe that there were possibly underlying latent mental issues that the drug use brought on. barrett has well recovered to that the degree that he has lived alone and maintained a house for many years now. i believe that barrett does not have schizophrenia although he prefers not to interact with people other than relatives and tends to depression. on the otherhand, again according to what i've read, he paints and gardens,does his own shopping and is on good terms with his neighbors.

skip spence was schizophrenic which was brought on by drug use. the onset of his illness was sudden, coincided with drug use and associating with people with dubious intentions (a self-proclaimed witch). he tried to attack some of his bandmates with a fire-axe and was institutionalized. he never fully recovered but did cut one album immediately after he was released. he, unlike pete, had no family to look after him and no royalties to subsist on. subsequently he spent the next 30 years drifting, much of the time from the mid seventies to early 90's as a transient. still he was active musically off in san jose, santa cruz, and in the santa cruz mtns up around ben lomand. though virtually no material was formally recorded or was released. some of the original doobie brothers were associates of skip's in the early 1970's. and up until the few months before he died skip was making music, also unreleased. according to what i've read, spence was a very unusual person even before the drug use - could pick up new instruments with no training, could compose songs and arrangements in his head etc.

zero

monkeydevil 06-28-2006 01:43 PM
Thanks Zero for this interesting information on Syd and Skip!

I didn´t know that skip Spence was so ill as you describe.

Here are a couple of pictures I found recently of SYD:

Syd in 1969
http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_hi...a/Barrett1.jpg

Syd in 1983
http://lundissimo.info/imgs/barrett/...ardener-83.jpg

Syd in 1989
http://lundissimo.info/imgs/barrett/syd/SydWalk-89.jpg

Syd in 2002
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...rrett_2002.jpg

Syd in 2005
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...arrett2005.jpg

becca 06-28-2006 03:00 PM
Thanks for the insights!

The photo of Syd in Nick Mason's book from 1975 is kind of startling because he looks a lot like that 2002 photo! Having an aversion to the music 'industry' as Peter and Syd had is certainly not only sane but generally healthy. Why anybody wanted to do a lot of acid I have no idea as a little would go a long long way, but like vitamins some people think if a little is good a lot is better and so get vitamin C poisoning or liver damage.

Peter's playing and singing on The Splinter Group recordings are better if anything to me than earlier stuff, but the songwriting certainly seems to have gone or been very dramatically lessened.

dino 06-28-2006 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mzero
sf2k is correct, at least according to mc's book it was dennis that was at the munich house with peter.



i do know a fair bit about syd barrett. his case is similar in that he was under tremendous pressure to produce hit records and lead the band. was different in that, by all accounts that i've read, he took much more acid than pete (both intentionally and spiked) and very large quantities other drugs (mandrax). some believe this led to serious brain damage as well as induced mental illness. as i recall both roger waters and david gilmour (who both knew him as teenagers) believe that there were possibly underlying latent mental issues that the drug use brought on. barrett has well recovered to that the degree that he has lived alone and maintained a house for many years now. i believe that barrett does not have schizophrenia although he prefers not to interact with people other than relatives and tends to depression. on the otherhand, again according to what i've read, he paints and gardens,does his own shopping and is on good terms with his neighbors.

skip spence was schizophrenic which was brought on by drug use. the onset of his illness was sudden, coincided with drug use and associating with people with dubious intentions (a self-proclaimed witch). he tried to attack some of his bandmates with a fire-axe and was institutionalized. he never fully recovered but did cut one album immediately after he was released. he, unlike pete, had no family to look after him and no royalties to subsist on. subsequently he spent the next 30 years drifting, much of the time from the mid seventies to early 90's as a transient. still he was active musically off in san jose, santa cruz, and in the santa cruz mtns up around ben lomand. though virtually no material was formally recorded or was released. some of the original doobie brothers were associates of skip's in the early 1970's. and up until the few months before he died skip was making music, also unreleased. according to what i've read, spence was a very unusual person even before the drug use - could pick up new instruments with no training, could compose songs and arrangements in his head etc.

zero
yes, sorry, it was dennis at the house. and as you say, he did the same lsd and didn't suffer any ill effects. Some people should never take lsd, while others apparently can handle it. But the parallell with syd barret is interesting, whereas he could be termed an "acid casualty", peter is not, at least not in the same sense.
The skip spence album is called "oar", i believe. Hailed as a classic by some critics, has anyone haerd it?

mzero 06-28-2006 10:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dino
yes, sorry, it was dennis at the house. and as you say, he did the same lsd and didn't suffer any ill effects. Some people should never take lsd, while others apparently can handle it. But the parallell with syd barret is interesting, whereas he could be termed an "acid casualty", peter is not, at least not in the same sense.
The skip spence album is called "oar", i believe. Hailed as a classic by some critics, has anyone haerd it?
d- i have 'oar'. in some ways it is very similar to the first barrett solo lp, 'the madcap laughs' in that it is strange, spare, out of its time, and not produced. if anything it is spacier that 'ml'. but it is different in that barrett's was recorded over a serious of sessions of more than a year with different producers and pieced together with little input from syd. skip's was done entirely by himself. he played all the instruments, produced and it was recorded in a matter of days. there is nothing like it. but , knowing what was going on when it was recorded, immediately after, and some of what eventually happened to skip, i have trouble listening to it all the way through without getting completely wiped out.

there is an interesting skip tribute (that i do not have) where the whole oar album is remade by fans (e.g., robert plant (a huge moby grape and champion of skip), tom waits, beck) who you'd never guess were influenced by someone ultimately so obscure and lost.

zero

eclipse 06-29-2006 06:14 AM
Details please
 
I am somewhat new to the "older Mac" stories and history...
Can someone give me a little "Readers Digest" version of "The Munich Accident". I gather, from what I read that Peter was at a mansion in Munich- took lsd and ...what...flipped out?
Was it supposed to be the first time that he encountered the drug...or his last?

Thanks for any background

dino 06-30-2006 04:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eclipse
I am somewhat new to the "older Mac" stories and history...
Can someone give me a little "Readers Digest" version of "The Munich Accident". I gather, from what I read that Peter was at a mansion in Munich- took lsd and ...what...flipped out?
Was it supposed to be the first time that he encountered the drug...or his last?

Thanks for any background
Ok, I'll jump on it...

The "accident" took place in Munich, Germany in March, 1970, probably after the concert on March 22. However , M. Celmins claims that the band were in Munich for 3 days, which doesn't agree with the tour itinerary found on the FM legacy website (March 23 they played in Nurnberg). The men who were there remembers it like this:

Accoring to road manager Dennis Keen:
After the gig Peter was invited to a party by a beautiful girl, so he and road manager Dennis Keen went. They got to a big house (a "hippie" commune) where a party was underway, and drank wine that was spiked with lsd (both of them).

Keen only has one memory of Peter during their 24-hour stay, of him jamming some weird music in the basement. Keen found the atmosphere strange and wanted to leave after some 10 hours, and called Clifford Davis to come and get them.

Peter green:
Peter says they were met at the airport in Munich by a boy and a girl, who came to the hotel after the show and invited them to the "commune". He and dennis went there, he played some exciting music and was put to bed by a girl, tripping and tired. The concert next day he felt "marvelous, fresh and not grubby". He does recall the acid trip as being pretty wild...but he didn't "flip out" afterwards or anything.

It's hard to say what impact the famous acid trip had. Green obviously had thought of leaving the band before Munich. McVie and Fleetwood's reaction the whole Munich thing (shock, anger), at a guess, was maybe coloured by peter leaving the group shortly afterwards. On the other hand, the commune people may have tried to drum something into Peter; rock music was a target for anarchistic youth back then, as was becoming more commercial (higher prices on concert tickets etc.). It doesn't ring true however that that one trip destroyed Peter, he had done acid several times before and did afterwards too, I gather.

sharksfan2000 06-30-2006 08:55 AM
Very nice summary, Dino! And your last paragraph very closely mirrors my view of the impact of the Munich events.

One thing to add - the "Munich trip" has long been blown out of proportion to become one of the great rock'n'roll myths. It's often written that Peter disappeared for a three-day acid binge and was never the same afterwards. As noted above, Peter went to the house in Munich only that one night, and in the company of one of the band's crew. Of course I wasn't there so I can only speculate on what may have happened at the house and if there really was any dramatic change in Peter's personality or behavior afterwards. From whhat I've read, he announced his decision to leave the band the following day, and as Dino mentions, that surely had an effect on how the other band members viewed the events.

Jeremy - if you're reading this thread, it would be great to have your input on what really happened :)

eclipse 06-30-2006 09:45 AM
Thank You
 
Thanks for the background-It makes more sense to me now :cool:
Have I mentioned that I love this place...

So many people with such a broad musical background/knowledge/history!!
Now ...if someone could just explain why gay men love Stevie Nicks so much....I would have all the information I need for a day (smile)

Thanks again
~~eclipse~~

jeremy spencer 06-30-2006 06:54 PM
from the horse!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sharksfan2000
Very nice summary, Dino! And your last paragraph very closely mirrors my view of the impact of the Munich events.

One thing to add - the "Munich trip" has long been blown out of proportion to become one of the great rock'n'roll myths. It's often written that Peter disappeared for a three-day acid binge and was never the same afterwards. As noted above, Peter went to the house in Munich only that one night, and in the company of one of the band's crew. Of course I wasn't there so I can only speculate on what may have happened at the house and if there really was any dramatic change in Peter's personality or behavior afterwards. From whhat I've read, he announced his decision to leave the band the following day, and as Dino mentions, that surely had an effect on how the other band members viewed the events.

Jeremy - if you're reading this thread, it would be great to have your input on what really happened :)



The speculation has been amusing but I was thinking for awhile now, I'll only post a reply if someone asks!! So here you go, Sharksfan.
It's true that we, or more accurately, Pete was met at Munich airport by a very beautiful girl and a strange guy in a black cape. Their focus was definitely Pete for some reason. The rest of us didn't get it, but we discussed the weird vibes. We were invited to their mansion in the Munich forest that night. Pete was already jamming down in the basement, wa wah stuff with congas and stuff when I arrived with Mick. Dennis Keene met us in the driveway, ashen faced and freaking out over the bad vibes and how weird Pete was going. I don't think Dennis was stoned, he just wanted to get out. I tried calming him down with a scripture. I wasn't stoned, maybe I toked some weed that night, but Mick and I stayed and cooked some eggs in the kitchen cos we were famished!
Anyway the house (more like a mansion) was a rich hippy crash pad. And it was spooky. There was some weird stuff going on in the different rooms. Hocus pocus that I don't want to get into here otherwise it'll open up a can of worms.
Mick and I ended up upstairs talking to a girl who was severely affected by the whole thing. It definitely wasn't positive. And if you believe in bad vibes, people wise and music wise, this was it. Mick and I were oh so glad to be out of there. I don't believe we can just blame the acid, it's a convenient scapegoat, but 'beautiful minds' have been around long before acid. (Maybe I should get ready to duck!!)

sharksfan2000 06-30-2006 07:47 PM
Thanks, Jeremy! :)

Like many people here, I've read several differing versions of what happened, and it's fantastic to hear a first-hand account of things straight from you. It sure sounds like it must have been a scary experience. It's sad that Peter was in a state of mind where it sounds like he was easy prey for people trying to take advantage of him.

fanmael 06-30-2006 10:42 PM
Thank you for the response jeremy. Much appreciated.

How i would have loved to be a fly on the wall in that hippie house basement.

I agree with Jeremy that we cannot lay the blame soley on the acid as other well knows factors were in place such as Peter's change in musical direction.

One only needs to listen to The 'End of the Game' and 'Kiln House' to see that the contrast between the two albums are like night and day.

wondergirl9847 06-30-2006 11:53 PM
Wow!
 
I have nothing to add about the Munich thing as I don't really know much about it, but it's so great to see Jeremy posting here! Hi Jeremy! :D

Also, welcome to the Ledge, fanmael. :)

becca 07-01-2006 12:24 AM
I can imagine that the occult people of the time would be well aware of Black Magic Woman and thus it makes sense they would zero in on the writer of it, plus celebrity draws those either wanting to use you or simply effect you in some way to make themselves feel important... often because they're non-creative themselves, like the company executives who try to force changes.

I don't see Peter leaving the group as unusual at all, just his own wrecklessness, unhappiness or aimlessness seems to have begun following the incident. Hate to bring another music icon into this, but it seemed like Jim Morrison's appearance changed rapidly at some point too for example, with the beard, and his eyes being more unfocused, and a generally zombified demeanor... it was like another person, or like the person who was there before had kind of gone to bed and stayed there. That seems how people decribe Peter who was really such a handsome guy and five years later was looking twenty years older. I'm gonna have to find a bit of time to scan this Syd Barret photo of 1975 where his old friends did not recognize him at all and in studio 3 of abbey road yet!

dino 07-01-2006 12:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sharksfan2000
Thanks, Jeremy! :)

Like many people here, I've read several differing versions of what happened, and it's fantastic to hear a first-hand account of things straight from you. It sure sounds like it must have been a scary experience. It's sad that Peter was in a state of mind where it sounds like he was easy prey for people trying to take advantage of him.
Yes, thanks Jeremy :blob1: !
Intriguing, straight from the horse's mouth. Just bought the complete Elmore James Fire/Enjoy recordings, amazing...

becca 07-01-2006 03:05 AM
http://www.islandnet.com/~rebejan/syd75.jpg <--- Syd in 1975

I suppose it plays into a music lover's fantasy to imagine one dramatic crossroads moment, and that maybe things could have turned out so much differently but for that.

It is a major shock to see somebody dramatically older in a time logically too short to have been so profound. Usually it only happens because of serious illness. Little wonder people would want to supply some explaination for what is astonishing their eyes.

eclipse 07-02-2006 09:45 AM
Thanks Jeremy-Fantastic to hear from you.
I undrstand the whole "bad vibes", you described... feelings, atmospheres, energies, whatever you want to call them-in a room/house wherever the negative energies can gather. And it does feel fantastic to leave them behind you...whether you are straight or high.

I have been blessed with an acute 6th sense, so I "feel" many things that other people are just not feeling, and don't understand.
Thanks for your input...and I am glad you left that mansion that night:xoxo:

jeremy spencer 07-02-2006 11:13 PM
thank you, Eclipse.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eclipse
Thanks Jeremy-Fantastic to hear from you.
I undrstand the whole "bad vibes", you described... feelings, atmospheres, energies, whatever you want to call them-in a room/house wherever the negative energies can gather. And it does feel fantastic to leave them behind you...whether you are straight or high.

I have been blessed with an acute 6th sense, so I "feel" many things that other people are just not feeling, and don't understand.
Thanks for your input...and I am glad you left that mansion that night:xoxo:
It's sensitive stuff, a gift of God. But it's a responsibility too.xx

GJK 07-03-2006 05:05 PM
Happy Birthday, Mr. Spencer, from a long-time fan from The Netherlands!

GJK

jeremy spencer 07-03-2006 05:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GJK
Happy Birthday, Mr. Spencer, from a long-time fan from The Netherlands!

GJK
thank you, GJK.

robm 07-05-2006 05:02 AM
Thanks Jeremy for the Info...some insight
 
...hmmm...bad vibes...a mansion in the woods...lsd...staying indoors in a dark place like an old mansion would have given off bad vibes to many people who experienced strong clean lsd...usually better to play/listen to music...or experience outdoor nature...if the lsd is strong...from my experience as a trip guide way back in my college youth days...
Sounds like Peter just experienced some people who were "very" experimental, and had a good time Jamming...he's already Jammed with the Grateful Dead and Allman Brothers a month or so earlier...maybe he wanted to stretch-out those musical abilities? Thanks for the info Mr. Spencer...I look forward to trying to obtain your new album here in Mumbai, India...Blind Pig is an excellent Blues lable...maybe they'll send this way when I order it...I have the Flee releases, and I enjoyed them...so looking forward to hearing the "new" stuff...good health

jeremy spencer 07-07-2006 11:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by robm
...hmmm...bad vibes...a mansion in the woods...lsd...staying indoors in a dark place like an old mansion would have given off bad vibes to many people who experienced strong clean lsd...usually better to play/listen to music...or experience outdoor nature...if the lsd is strong...from my experience as a trip guide way back in my college youth days...
Sounds like Peter just experienced some people who were "very" experimental, and had a good time Jamming...he's already Jammed with the Grateful Dead and Allman Brothers a month or so earlier...maybe he wanted to stretch-out those musical abilities? Thanks for the info Mr. Spencer...I look forward to trying to obtain your new album here in Mumbai, India...Blind Pig is an excellent Blues lable...maybe they'll send this way when I order it...I have the Flee releases, and I enjoyed them...so looking forward to hearing the "new" stuff...good health
Thank you, robm. 'Precious Little' is also currently available direct from Bluestown, Norway. They give prompt and reliable service. It would be nice if it could be released in India, too.

robm 07-08-2006 03:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremy spencer
Thank you, robm. 'Precious Little' is also currently available direct from Bluestown, Norway. They give prompt and reliable service. It would be nice if it could be released in India, too.
Thanks...I'll search them out!:)

sharksfan2000 07-08-2006 09:25 AM
Robm - here's link to the Bluestown website:
http://www.bluestownrecords.com/index_e.htm
Click on the "Catalog" link to order. As Jeremy wrote, the service was excellent.

robm 07-09-2006 12:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sharksfan2000
Robm - here's link to the Bluestown website:
http://www.bluestownrecords.com/index_e.htm
Click on the "Catalog" link to order. As Jeremy wrote, the service was excellent.
Thanks...I sent them an order request yesterday...waiting to hear from them as they will e-mail me an order # so I can paypal...then they will send...look forward to listening to the new stuff.

sharksfan2000 07-11-2006 09:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mzero
i do know a fair bit about syd barrett. his case is similar in that he was under tremendous pressure to produce hit records and lead the band. was different in that, by all accounts that i've read, he took much more acid than pete (both intentionally and spiked) and very large quantities other drugs (mandrax). some believe this led to serious brain damage as well as induced mental illness. as i recall both roger waters and david gilmour (who both knew him as teenagers) believe that there were possibly underlying latent mental issues that the drug use brought on. barrett has well recovered to that the degree that he has lived alone and maintained a house for many years now. i believe that barrett does not have schizophrenia although he prefers not to interact with people other than relatives and tends to depression. on the otherhand, again according to what i've read, he paints and gardens,does his own shopping and is on good terms with his neighbors.
Some sad news to report about Syd Barrett - news reports today say that he passed away a couple of days ago:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060711/...u/obit_barrett

dansven 07-11-2006 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sharksfan2000
Some sad news to report about Syd Barrett - news reports today say that he passed away a couple of days ago:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060711/...u/obit_barrett

So terribly sad......:(

Popmuseum 01-08-2008 02:52 PM
Peter Green & the famous "Highfish Commune" in Munich 1970
 
Hello there,

"Fleetwood Mac"- and "Peter Green"-fans should know that Rainer Langhans, famous former member of well known German communes, writes in an article ("Autobiography"/"Car-Biography") that he and his former girl-friend Uschi Obermaier met Peter Green in Munich, where they invited him to their (then well known) "High-Fish-Commune" (High-Fish = "stoned fish / shark"-commune): http://www.debrebant.de/pdf/auto.pdf

It seems that Langhans and Obermaier were not really interested in Peter Green. - They just wanted to get in contact with Mick Taylor.

Langhans and Obermaier wished to organize a "Bavarian Woodstock". They wanted Jimi Hendrix and "The Rolling Stones" to be the leading stars of their Bavarian open air festival. - They needed the "Green God" just to get in contact with "The Rolling Stones" via Mick Taylor.

Read more about it, in the "Rolling Stone"-Forum (in German):
Peter Greens Trauma-Nacht mit deutschen Kommunarden 1970: http://forum.rollingstone.de/showthread.php?t=29009

By the way: Rainer Langhans' girl-friend Christa Ritter tells she's gonna make a movie about Peter Green's Munich accident: Peter Green’s (Ex-Fleetwood Mac) Trauma-Nacht mit deutschen Kommunarden 1970:
http://zia.pentabarf.org/programm/speakers/29.de.html

Read more about Uschi Obermaier: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uschi_Obermaier

Last, not least: Please excuse my "English". I'm used to listen and read (in) English, but I'm not used to write in English. Sorry.

Regards,
Popmuseum

Wouter Vuijk 01-08-2008 09:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Popmuseum (Post 736403)
Hello there,

"Fleetwood Mac"- and "Peter Green"-fans should know that Rainer Langhans, famous former member of well known German communes, writes in an article ("Autobiography"/"Car-Biography") that he and his former girl-friend Uschi Obermaier met Peter Green in Munich, where they invited him to their (then well known) "High-Fish-Commune" (High-Fish = "stoned fish / shark"-commune): http://www.debrebant.de/pdf/auto.pdf

It seems that Langhans and Obermaier were not really interested in Peter Green. - They just wanted to get in contact with Mick Taylor.

Langhans and Obermaier wished to organize a "Bavarian Woodstock". They wanted Jimi Hendrix and "The Rolling Stones" to be the leading stars of their Bavarian open air festival. - They needed the "Green God" just to get in contact with "The Rolling Stones" via Mick Taylor.

Read more about it, in the "Rolling Stone"-Forum (in German):
Peter Greens Trauma-Nacht mit deutschen Kommunarden 1970: http://forum.rollingstone.de/showthread.php?t=29009

By the way: Rainer Langhans' girl-friend Christa Ritter tells she's gonna make a movie about Peter Green's Munich accident: Peter Green’s (Ex-Fleetwood Mac) Trauma-Nacht mit deutschen Kommunarden 1970:
http://zia.pentabarf.org/programm/speakers/29.de.html

Read more about Uschi Obermaier: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uschi_Obermaier

Last, not least: Please excuse my "English". I'm used to listen and read (in) English, but I'm not used to write in English. Sorry.

Regards,
Popmuseum
It would be nice if Christa would also be able to lay a hand on the recordings made, and get them published. :]

And, like I mentioned elsewhere: do not apologise for your "poor" English. At least you get further than most native English speaking get with German or whatever other language.:lol:

sharksfan2000 01-08-2008 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Wouter Vuijk (Post 736457)
At least you get further than most native English speaking get with German or whatever other language.:lol:
I'm sure you're correct, Wouter, although I could understand "wir haben getrippt und gejammt" ;) Pretty cool info from Popmuseum - thanks!

Popmuseum 01-09-2008 04:16 AM
Habedieehre,

herzlichen Dank für die freundliche Begrüßung (hier). Schön!

Wenn es etwas Neues über München zu berichten gibt, werde ich wieder in Englisch posten.

Bis dahin,
g'schamster Diener,
Popmuseum

Karl-Heinz 01-30-2008 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Popmuseum (Post 736472)
Habedieehre,

herzlichen Dank für die freundliche Begrüßung (hier). Schön!

Wenn es etwas Neues über München zu berichten gibt, werde ich wieder in Englisch posten.

Bis dahin,
g'schamster Diener,
Popmuseum

P.S.: Mit diesem Posting habe ich Wouter Vuijks Wunsch nach einem Wienerischen Beitrag erfüllt und hoffe, dass er das Posting ins Angelsächsische überführt. Danke!
Bist a Weana Strizzi :sorry: oder bist a Fiaker, ein Herr Graf oder ein Herr Doktor. :-) Servus


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