Those on the fence for setlist reasons: what’s your minimum requirements?
 

I know i may come across as mildly excited about this shake up, and in my mind this is no different then every other line up change. But that’s only if it’s done the right way. The more I think about it, the less likely I feel it will be the reality, but stranger things have already happened so I’m not giving up.

If this tour is marketed as a full 50 plus year career retrospective tour (farewell or otherwise, although personally I hope it’s farewell) then this line up works for me. it’s like the concert we’ve talked about many times throughout the years on this board of an all 16 (or at least most of them) member concert. This could be a compromise. I hope Neil Finn primarily is used as a voice to sing peter and bob songs. Lindsey songs should be kept to the bare minimum, since he is still active and Bob/Peter aren’t. Go Your Own Way only. None of those signature uniquely Lindsey songs (Tusk, in fact no tusk songs at all, so afraid, big love) go your own way has always been more about Mick and ajohn to me anyway. It’s just a generic break up song compared to the vast majority of Lindsey’s career. So go your own way should be the sole Lindsey song as a nod to him, but let the man himself handle performing the majority of those songs one his solo tour this year.

I hope if the set is 25 songs long
it looks something like this:

At least 8 songs from pre 1975 (and at least 2 of those from Christine) ebony eyes would qualify for this category.

No more then 1 Neil Finn song

No more then 3 Tom Petty Related songs (sang by Stevie or Neil) this included SDMHA

At least 2 stevie/Christine alone on stage performances

- 1 “new” song a piece from stevie and Christine. Christine plays one of her 5 buckvie songs and stevie a song from In Your Dreams. I think that could tie into the above scenerio. I feel a Christine/stevie only version of Moonlight would steal the show and have even I’d say at least half of the biggest critics of this tour change their minds after witnessing that done right.

- 2 “demo/outtake” versions of songs done. With all the reissues lately,
Pretty much every song has at least 2 officially released versions out there. This could also be a big crossover category since there are many good stevie piano only demos. #1 on the wishlist is the piano demo version of planets of the universe. But even more enticing would be Smile At You done Mirage outtake style.

Or and this is a lot of set space to devote to one song, but I would commit to buying a ticket at any price now if they did:

the Chain Stevie Demo
Keep Me There Christine outtake
the Chain normal version
Not doing the mcvie bass solo, guitar solo twice, just during the Chain.


No Stand Back! This is forgivable if the rest of the set is great, but this the Last solo song i think should be played. First off, musically I think this new band should not be wasted on Stand Back. They should do one her many heartbreaker connected songs. SDMHA is an obvious choice but even Outside the Rain features MC in the original version and features those Dreams drums. The OTR/Dreams combo comes and goes so much now that I wouldn’t hate hearing that transition with Mick at the drums finally.


I have a lot of really specific yet vague broad requests tha can go a lot of different ways and make me happy or unhappy but there are probably 5 specific songs that I want to see enough that any one of their appearance in the set would get me to buy a ticket. They are:

1. Smile At You- close to one of the mirage outtakes style
2. The full chain experience mentioned above
3. Green Manalishi- with stevie giving some kind of wail at the end.
4. Any song that is actually brand new. Slated to go on this new line ups upcoming album.
5. Moonlight as a duet with Christine as Stevie’s solo contribution


So basically what would make me join the haters about this tour and sit this out would be if in this same 25 song setlist scenerio it breaks down more like this:

20 standard hits/concert staples

Neil Finns voice is used primarily to do Lindsey’s parts on songs and the set is still filled with SHN, Monday Morning, NGBA (a song that I now realize is right up neil Finns alley, finally hearing some of his stuff) And he only does
Oh Well from before 1975.

The Deep cuts done are anything done since The Dance:

So Storms and Beautiful Child won’t cut it for me As the depth of theses cuts :laugh: I’m all for hearing at least one of these in the set, especially as a closer instead of Silver Springs, but it’s not worth cutting lindsey and that being the only pay off. These deep cuts must be more plentiful then 5, cover multiple eras of the band, and I want some creative arrangements done. And repeated from above any song that somehow indicates they’ve been considering making an album forgives all the other rules.

I compiled a joke setlist in a previous thread (and no one noticed, or no one cared, lol). A setlist that guarantees my ticket purchase would look something like this:

1. The Chain
2. Green Manalishi
3. Save Me
4. Gold Dust Woman
5. Black Magic Woman
6. As Long As You Follow
7. I Loved Another Woman
8. Say You Love Me
9. Smile At You
10. Love Is Dangerous
11. You Make Loving Fun
12. Bright Fire
13. Hold Me
14. Freedom
15. Hyonotized
16. Spare Me A Little
17. Straight Back
18. Station Man
19. I Need To Know
20. Don't Stop

Encore 1
21. Albatross
22. Oh Well
23. Dreams

Encore 2:
24. Tango In The Night (Neil/Stevie vocal)
25. Songbird

Nothing from Behind the Mask will be played
Nothing from Say You Will will be played
No Lindsey songs will be played (Lindsey singing parts Chain, etc will be sung)
No Bob Welch songs will be played (good grief Bob sued them and the band did not acknowledge him in his last 10 years on earth)

What I expect is 2 pre-Nicks songs to be played
Possible one Heartbreaker song
Stevie solo song
Possible Crowded House song

This tour will crank out the hits more than ever. Since Lindsey songs are gone, the band will rely on Rumours songs. Expect Oh Daddy back in the set. A surprise could be Love in Store. The band will not try to replicate Lindsey. If they wanted to play Behind the Mask, they would have hired Rick and Billy.

I'd put a substantial amount of money on you being totally incorrect, Macfan4life. Songs from Behind the Mask, Say You Will, and even Lindsey songs will absolutely be played. This will be a career retrospective and will be far more interesting than anything they've ever done. I Can't Wait! (maybe they'll even play that, lol). :blob1:

In fact, since this is a wishlist thread, here's a slightly revised setlist, because I always wanted to hear Stevie do this song by Bekka:


1. The Chain
2. Green Manalishi
3. Save Me
4. Gold Dust Woman
5. Black Magic Woman
6. As Long As You Follow
7. I Loved Another Woman
8. Say You Love Me
9. Smile At You
10. Love Is Dangerous
11. You Make Loving Fun
12. Bright Fire
13. Hold Me
14. Freedom
15. Hyonotized
16. Spare Me A Little
17. Straight Back
18. Station Man
19. Winds Of Change (Stevie vocal)
20. Don't Stop

Encore 1
21. Tango In The Night (Neil/Stevie vocal)
22. Oh Well
23. Dreams

Encore 2:
24. Albatross
25. Songbird

I will eat my shoe on Facebook Live if anything from Behind the Mask or Say You Will is played. Those songs are more foreign to the masses than Oh Well or other classic Mac songs. Those albums were not considered commercially successful. I love Street Angel but I know not to expect any songs from the album on Stevie's solo tours.
The band is not going to dig deep into unknown albums. What next? Something from Time? :eek:
;)

If Christine plays Nights in Estoril (Time) I will definitely buy a ticket.
Ain't gonna happen

Well I'm not on the fence as far as going. I could find out they're playing YMLF, Rhiannon, SYLM and Landslide on repeat for two hours and I'd still go, but there are some things I'd really like to hear.

As much as I hope for a shake up, I expect probably a good 2/3rds to 3/4ths of the set will be the songs that they think are *must plays* for the casual Mac/Classic Rock fans. It's the remainder of the set where I hope things get more interesting. I expect some pre-BN era stuff, maybe Oh Well and Station Man (and I'd love Why, but am not holding my breath). Then maybe some more "rare" gems from Stevie and Christine; my dream set would have these be As Long and You Follow, That's Alright/Straight Back and maybe a return of Think About Me and Angel. I expect maybe they'll include something from the new guys, like Don't Dream It's Over and something from the Heartbreakers (You Need to Know), related to the Heartbreakers (Stop Draggin') or in tribute to Tom (Free Fallin'). If it's Stop Draggin'..., maybe no Stand Back (I expect one Stevie solo song).

I'll be pleasantly surprised if they go way out of the box and adventurous with the set list...in the meantime, it's fun to think of the possibilities.

(In a southern US drawl)

Merle, you son of a bitch you promised me Fleetwoo' Mac. This ain' no Fleetwoo' Mac. Whachya gonna do 'bout it Merle?
Don'tcha worry Patty Mae. We're gonna sue that goddamn Mick Fleetwoo's ass off honey-bunny.



(no offence intended y'all).
:wavey:

My wishlist was amended to include a song from Time. ;)

I almost included Nights in Estoril too, but figured Spare Me a Little was more likely. I'd take Why or Behind The Mask or just about any other deep cut from Chris.

I'm just not interested in the same old setlist. I intend to stick to my assessment on this until an actual setlist proves me wrong. I won't eat my shoe if that happens, though, I just won't buy a ticket. :laugh:

I don't know, Macfan4life... FM Greatest Hits is the 2nd best selling FM ever, so As Long As You Follow is probably more familiar to the casual FM fan than you think. And Save Me was their last top 40 hit and it did get a lot of airplay on MTV and VH1, so again, it's probably more familiar to casual fans than Why or Come a Little Bit Closer or even Oh Well.

Hey, I know it's a real long shot, anything's possible!

Stevie mentioned a couple of songs in the Rolling Stone interview, including Oh Well, Rattlesnake Shake, and Station Man. And in the CBS interview, they were seen rehearsing The Chain.

*sigh*

For me, I really don't want to hear a lot of blues songs. That's a different genre. I mean, it's one thing to do a brief homage to their roots, but performing Oh Well, Another Woman, Black Magic Woman, Rattlesnake Shake, and possibly others, has me concerned. Plus, from what others have said, it sounds like Neil's voice would be better served singing songs by Bob Welch or Lindsey.

If they do perform earlier songs, I hope they stick to the well-known ones, like Black Magic Woman, Oh Well, Sentimental Lady, and Hypnotized. If Neil sang those, along with Don't Dream It's Over, Crystal, Blue Letter, Go Your Own Way, and sang on I Don't Want to Know, World Turning, the Chain, Don't Stop, and Hold Me, that seems like a decent mix of old and new, hits and deep tracks.

It just occured to me, maybe Stevie and Neil will sing Whenever I Call You Friend. I kind of think they would be smart to include as many songs as possible that have more than one singer.

As much as I really want to boycott by not attending, I'll probably break down and go. Fleetwood Mac's music is part of the fabric of my life. I have NEVER missed a tour since 1977, including the train wreck of the Behind The Mask/Time Tours. So, I'm sure I'll bite the bullet.

That being said, it's amusing to me that some people are speculating that the band will play tunes like "Freedom" and "Save Me" from that era. Uh, yeah, that's NOT going to happen. What we ARE likely to see is the same greatest hits set list with a few Pre-1975 songs thrown in. Neil will sing Lindsey's parts on "World Turning" and "Don't Stop". If they're really brave, they'll attempt "Go Your Own Way" with Neil and hope that no one throws tomatoes out of ironic anger. Oh, the irony!

The band will plow through "Oh Well" and another blues number like "Black Magic Woman. "Station Man" might make the final cut. I'm sorry, but this band has NO BUSINESS playing Crowded House's "Don't Dream It's Over". That would be a blasphemous lounge act, at best. Also, expect that bland overplayed disco number "Stand Back" to make a dreaded return to the set list.

What WILL be a true gem for me is to hear Christine play "Spare Me A Little of Your Love" and "Why". If they stand ANY chance at pleasing the true fans, I would suggesting pulling out one of these Pre-75 songs. Sharon Celani and the other "background girl singer of Stevie's choice" would add great harmony vocals to both of these tunes.

You only listed one blues song. The only reason I Loved Another Woman was brought out was because John thought Black Magic Woman had become too associated with Santana, and ILAW was kind of similar. But Oh Well and Rattlesnake Shake are boogie-rock songs, not blues songs, and even Black Magic Woman wasn’t exactly a pure blues song.


He’s closest to Danny Kirwan by a mile. I don’t hear a shred of similarity to Bob. Stevie sounds more like Bob Welch.

Totally agree on “Save Me,” but I could see “Freedom” if only because it’s a SN-MC song. It connects MC to the band’s catalogue.

Station Man
Say You Love Me
The Chain
Dreams
Don’t Dream It’s Over
Running Down A Dream (MC)
Everywhere
Rhiannon
Oh Well (MC)
Gypsy
Spare Me A Little
Bare Trees
Landslide
Rattlesnake Shake
Little Lies
Something So Strong
Gold Dust Woman
You Make Loving Fun
Go Your Own Way
-
World Turning
Stop Dragging My Heart Around (SN-MC)
Don’t Stop
-
Songbird

Any certain info about the actual setlist would be truly appreciated!

Stranger things have happened. I'm sorry, I had to go take a sedative. I've been suffering hallucinations ever since the initial shocked settled and this "announcement" is now an undigested reality.

The fact that we're even talking about lackluster material like "Freedom" making it into a 2018 Fleetwood Mac concert set list is harrowing. This dim and wavering wind blown night has me nauseous. Please say this is just a dream!

Lindsey, come back! Ugh, excuse me, restroom break!

Similar to what I am expecting;
"The Chain"
"Dreams"
"Everywhere"
"Rattlesnake Shake"
"Rhiannon"
"Hold Me"
"I Loved Another Woman"
"Station Man"
"Gypsy"
"Say You Love Me"
"Sara"
"Don't Dream Its Over"
"Landslide"
"Over My Head"
"Stop Draggin My Heart Around"
"Little Lies"
"Oh Well"
"Gold Dust Woman"
"You Make Loving Fun"
"Go Your Own Way"
"World Turning"
"Don't Stop"
"Silver Springs"
"Songbird"

What I would personally want to see;
"The Chain"
"Dreams"
"Everywhere"
"Rattlesnake Shake"
"Rhiannon"
"Save Me"
"Black Magic Woman"
"Station Man"
"Gypsy"
"Say You Love Me"
"Angel"
"Why"
"Landslide"
"As Long As You Follow"
"Stop Draggin My Heart Around"
"Little Lies"
"Oh Well"
"Gold Dust Woman"
"You Make Loving Fun"
"Don't Dream Its Over"
"World Turning"
"Don't Stop"
"When I See You Again"
"Songbird"

I think Stevie and Christine singing on Don't Dream It's Over would sound pretty.

Station Man sounds like it's a very real possibility, plus that have performed it before, way back in 1975 or so.

Stevie has already sang all her songs from Tusk live, so I really think she'll add either Straight Back or That's Alright.

Christine will probably add Wish You Were Here, since she did it last year.

I don't love Freedom by any means, I mean it's a totally ok song but not memorable or exceptional. Having said that, it is a way to draw Mike into the band's history, and I do believe it could sound better live than the recorded version. Plus, I would rather hear Freedom than Desert Angel or Whole Lotta Trouble, two Stevie songs I hate.

I've seen the video of Mike singing Running Down a Dream, and he does a great job on it. I would definitely be ok with FM performing this.

No Stop Dragging My Heart Around! Or I Need to Know!

They are going to play Save Me, As Long As You Follow, and probably Freedom too, and you can't stop them, lol. If Billy really was the other audition, that all but confirms that some BTM era stuff is coming back.

As for older stuff, haven't they name-dropped Rattlesnake Shake and Station Man already? And Oh Well? They're going out to please themselves on this tour, the "ten hits" are for the fans. 60 songs on the board to choose from, according to Stevie. Their whole catalog is up for grabs right now. :blob2:

I think people will throw things at them if they attempt Go Your Own Way. I know it's their most popular song and a concert staple but it's the Lindsey song.
And I think my jaw would fall to floor if Stevie ever performed Silver Springs with anyone other than Lindsey on guitar.

Totally agree. Yes GYOW is one of their concert highlights, but they've got plenty of other well known songs that they can fill a set with without playing the song that will most scream "HEY GUYS LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM ISN'T HERE ANYMORE!" I'm a long time FM diehard who has had a "crazy elderly band still doing crazy things" attitude about the whole situation...and even I desperately want them to give GYOW a rest in their Lindsey-less state.

Also agree about Silver Springs. Much as Stevie apparently cannot stand being around Lindsey anymore, she has clung to the "Stevie-Lindsey Shtick" in concerts since The Dance and her Silver Springs performances are kind of the pinnacle of that. I just don't seeing her playing Silver Springs without him. (And as much as Silver Springs is one of my very favorites, and as much as I got tired of the phoniness with Lindsey...I think I'd prefer they don't play it...)

I've been wrong before, but I'm willing to bet a lot money that there's no way in hell that a lackluster tune from a sub par album like "Freedom" will make it into the set list. With many amazing songs that have never been played before to choose from, if "Freedom" is in this set list, I will consider it the final nail in the coffin.

Billy was the other audition, but it was not to play tunes from "Behind The Mask" and "Time"--they considered him for the old blues/Pre-75 stuff, which at least has some artistic credibility.

I don't think Freedom is a lackluster song, or that BTM is all that subpar. But it was also my intro to FM. IF Billy was the other audition, songs from his FM album are definitely in consideration, and that was part of the point. I agree it was also prolly for some older songs, but also for doing Lindsey's songs.

That is pretty much exactly what I would think they would play plus or minus a few songs:
Minus: Bare Trees, Running Down a Dream, Something so Strong,
Plus: Something from Tusk (Beautiful Child or Sara), Stand Back, Over My Head and maybe Hold Me

I would be surprised if they did Go Your Own Way so maybe World Turning would be the closer. I agree with you that Station Man will be the opener with everyone singing that one. I wish they would do Black Magic Woman and a Judas Priest version of Green Manalishi and blow everyone out their seats but I know that wont happen. I also think there will be a new song not recorded but played in concert with this line up. They have so much time. When Rick and Billy joined there was no time to create new songs, they just hit the road.

World Turning would never be the closer for the regular set as it isn't well known enough to non-fans. Most likely, if they choose not to play Go Your Own Way then they'd close the main show with The Chain. I agree Station Man looks as if it would be a suitable song to open with.

I agree World Turning won't be the closer, as it isn't well-known to non-fans. Using that argument though, I can't imagine Station Man opening the show for exactly that same reason.

If that was the case why did the Mac use it as their first encore last tour? Bands usually play big hits or well known songs as their encore. I could not disagree more that World Turning is not know to casual fans. World Turning gets regular play on classic rock stations all over the USA every day. Just like Gold Dust Woman was never a single but a main stay of classic rock stations. I would bet 88% of their concert goers know the song. The band has played it on many of their big tours usually highlighting parts of the concert. In 1987 and 1990 it was the highlight of the mid show with Mick's body playing percussion. Then it came later in the set to then be highlighted as their first encore.
Station Man opened the Mac's first tours with Stevie and Lindsey. You must do the song first to keep the audience's attention. Mid way through its too unknown. The opener has everyone's attention and it features everyone on vocals. I would bet the house it will be the opener just like it was 1975. Or like in 1976 Say You Love Me into Station Man.

There's no problem with it being an encore song. Its just not a song to end the main show on. The last song of the main set needs to be a big one to get the crowd shouting for more. Once the encore starts the clock resets and they can then play something less well known and follow it up with another big one, i.e. Don't Stop.

I agree with Station Man as an opener. The opening song doesn't need to be particularly well known as the audience isn't going to take a leak or get a drink during the first song. Also, as you say its a good one for all the singers to lend their vocals to.

With Mike Campbell in the band, Stop Draggin is guaranteed to be in. He co wrote it with Tom. It'll make a nice opportunity for a Tom tribute/story. It was her first, huge solo hit. Mike sounds like Tom when he sings.

He himself suggested they would do that song in the Sirius interview.

Stevie was adamant in the interview that they would do Don't Dream It's Over. Chris seemed to agree.

I’m with madfan4life. World Turing, Gold Dust Woman, Oh Well are all given as much if not more airplay then Go shout Own Way on at least my hometown classic rock station. Plus it’s a group participation song.

Although with a lot of bands I’ve noticed it’s not so much the best known song that ends the main set but just one of their most kick ass performances of the night to leave the crowd excited. Sometimes rmthats anciver song even in a band like Hearts case.

So I was thinking an epic Green Manaalishi to close the main set. It’s an absolutely epic guitar song and I’m sorry but MC will do a FAR better job then Lindsey ever could on this song. And if stevie even makes the slightest attempt at the wails, this song has set closer written all over it.

In fact I think the last 4 songs of the main set should be:

Little Lies
Gold Dust Woman
Isn’t It Midnight
Green Manalishi

Encore:

Don’t Dream It’s Over (definitley needs to be out of the main set)
Stop Dragging My Heart Around

World Turning
Don’t Stop

Stevie finally came out of her encore set in stone pattern since 1994 (cover song followed by ballad) for the very first time on the 24 karat gold tour. Maybe Fleetwood Mac will change their approach to what songs can go where.

This is based more on likelihood than preference and I doubt it would be this exact order but I imagine it'll be something like

The Chain
Everywhere
Dreams
Oh Well (Mike)
Rattlesnake Shake (Mike)
Station Man (Neil & Chris)
Sentimental Lady
Hypnotised
Black Magic Woman (Mike)
Say You Love Me
Rhiannon
Landslide (better have a guitar solo from Mike instead of cheating and having a keyboard break as in times past)
You Make Loving Fun
Sisters of the Moon
Brown Eyes
Stop Dragging My Heart Around (Stevie & Neil)
Gypsy
Little Lies
Isn't It Midnight
Freedom
Don't Dream It's Over
Go Your Own Way (Neil)

ENCORES

World Turning
Don't Stop
Songbird

"Freedom" in the set? Dear god, no.

And I'd also bet that they'll end up dropping most of the pre-BN stuff. They'll keep Oh Well and maybe one other song or two.