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Macfan4life 02-03-2017 08:57 PM

33 years ago Christine McVie (1984) released
 
Last week January 27 was officially 33 years since Christine released her second solo album that was self titled. I was 13 and was not aware Christine was even working on a solo album (no internet in those days). I remember the day in February that I heard "Got a hold on me" on the radio. Our school had a 2 hour snow delay and when I heard it on the radio, I instantly knew it was Christine and was "so excited" she did a solo album. My birthday was in February and I got her solo album for my birthday. I remember listening to American top 40 waiting for Got a hold on me to debut. Sure enough the week it debuted it was one notch higher than Stevie's "Nightbird."

Fantastic album. It did not get great reviews but it also did not get bad reviews. I love every song on the album.

Happy Belated Birthday Christine McVie (1984).

jbrownsjr 02-04-2017 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1201014)
Last week January 27 was officially 33 years since Christine released her second solo album that was self titled. I was 13 and was not aware Christine was even working on a solo album (no internet in those days). I remember the day in February that I heard "Got a hold on me" on the radio. Our school had a 2 hour snow delay and when I heard it on the radio, I instantly knew it was Christine and was "so excited" she did a solo album. My birthday was in February and I got her solo album for my birthday. I remember listening to American top 40 waiting for Got a hold on me to debut. Sure enough the week it debuted it was one notch higher than Stevie's "Nightbird."

Fantastic album. It did not get great reviews but it also did not get bad reviews. I love every song on the album.

Happy Belated Birthday Christine McVie (1984).

I remember running in the living room when I heard the video playing on MTV. I was in HS and it was so uncool to love Christine McVie or Stevie Nicks... but I didn't care..

aleuzzi 02-04-2017 01:50 PM

I, too, was 13 when the album was released. I had known it was coming for months (thx to a commercial for it on MTV) and waited what seemed like an interminable amount of time for it to come out (some things never change).

I remember thinking all the songs were solid but hated the production, which struck me as glossy and dull like the inside of the JC Penney home section. There were two exceptions--"One in a Million" and "Smile I Live For." I felt both of these songs were not only the strongest on the record but among her best work in any context. Even with the passing of 33 years, I still feel the same way. Today, I'm a little kinder towards the rest of the record. I always liked the catchiness of the verses for "Got a Hold on Me" and was pleasantly surprised at how well it did. I also think "So Excited" and "Ask Anybody" really work, and might have been even better with more imaginative arrangements.

The rest bores me. "Love Will Show Us How" and "Keeping Secrets" are lot like "Got a Hold on Me" insofar as the verses work really well but the choruses don't really catch fire.

But "One In a Million" and "Smile" are exciting to me. They stand a head taller than anything else.

aleuzzi 02-04-2017 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1201039)
I remember running in the living room when I heard the video playing on MTV. I was in HS and it was so uncool to love Christine McVie or Stevie Nicks... but I didn't care..

Oh, yeah, I got razzed at home and by friends for liking them. Everyone was listening to Def Leopard, Journey, and various hair bands like Fastway and Triumph. We knew better, didn't we!

Macfan4life 02-04-2017 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1201056)
I, too, was 13 when the album was released. I had known it was coming for months (thx to a commercial for it on MTV) and waited what seemed like an interminable amount of time for it to come out (some things never change).

I remember thinking all the songs were solid but hated the production, which struck me as glossy and dull like the inside of the JC Penney home section. There were two exceptions--"One in a Million" and "Smile I Live For." I felt both of these songs were not only the strongest on the record but among her best work in any context. Even with the passing of 33 years, I still feel the same way. Today, I'm a little kinder towards the rest of the record. I always liked the catchiness of the verses for "Got a Hold on Me" and was pleasantly surprised at how well it did. I also think "So Excited" and "Ask Anybody" really work, and might have been even better with more imaginative arrangements.

The rest bores me. "Love Will Show Us How" and "Keeping Secrets" are lot like "Got a Hold on Me" insofar as the verses work really well but the choruses don't really catch fire.

But "One In a Million" and "Smile" are exciting to me. They stand a head taller than anything else.

We didn't get MTV until 1986 so you can imagine what a deprived teenager I was :eek: I agree that Smile, Ask Anybody, and One in a Million are the album's best cuts. My local paper liked the album but stated the songs lacked "musical muscle." It said the songs are not wimpy at all but lack some punch. I understand that criticism. The Todd Sharpe interview on youtube was interesting to me. Christine did not want to do a solo album. Warner Brothers must have given her a nice incentive to do it. She was also afraid to do it and relied on good friends...two of them from Mick's 1981 solo outing. Todd would go over to Christine's house with Mick and Christine liked the way he composed for Mick so she invited him to do her solo album with her. My local rock station that did not play much pop rock and was only playing classic rock, hard rock and metal put One In A Million in heavy rotation. I was floored and so happy. I have/had 4 copies of this album. One my parents bought me for my 14th birthday, I won a copy on the radio, I won another copy on the radio and I gave it to my friend who gave it back to me, and I eventually bought the CD.
Love Will Show Us How is a good song. It unique that is only has one verse and also has a long chorus. I think if the song was cleaned up some it would have made a better single for the radio. I love that Christine did not embrace the 80's synth pop and stuck to real drums and guitar. My least favorite song is Who's Dreaming this dream. I love on One in a Million sometimes you forget Stevie Winwood is singing because his voice and Christine's voice are so similar.
To sort of quote Christine... they are not the most adventurous songs in the world but they are pleasing to the ears. I gave up on looking but I always wanted to know if this album was ever certified gold. I don't think it has which is a shame. If Buckingham/McVie tour, I will be in the front row with this solo album. I want to see the look on Christine's face when I hold it up. It drove me nuts to see fans putting copies of Rock A Little in front of Christine to sign :eek: I mean......really!

jbrownsjr 02-04-2017 05:07 PM

I'm so glad I saw this tour. It was amazing. They rocked the house.

aleuzzi 02-04-2017 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1201075)
I'm so glad I saw this tour. It was amazing. They rocked the house.

I would have loved that! To see Christine AND you back then!

aleuzzi 02-04-2017 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1201065)
We didn't get MTV until 1986 so you can imagine what a deprived teenager I was :eek: I agree that Smile, Ask Anybody, and One in a Million are the album's best cuts. My local paper liked the album but stated the songs lacked "musical muscle." It said the songs are not wimpy at all but lack some punch. I understand that criticism. The Todd Sharpe interview on youtube was interesting to me. Christine did not want to do a solo album. Warner Brothers must have given her a nice incentive to do it. She was also afraid to do it and relied on good friends...two of them from Mick's 1981 solo outing. Todd would go over to Christine's house with Mick and Christine liked the way he composed for Mick so she invited him to do her solo album with her. My local rock station that did not play much pop rock and was only playing classic rock, hard rock and metal put One In A Million in heavy rotation. I was floored and so happy. I have/had 4 copies of this album. One my parents bought me for my 14th birthday, I won a copy on the radio, I won another copy on the radio and I gave it to my friend who gave it back to me, and I eventually bought the CD.
Love Will Show Us How is a good song. It unique that is only has one verse and also has a long chorus. I think if the song was cleaned up some it would have made a better single for the radio. I love that Christine did not embrace the 80's synth pop and stuck to real drums and guitar. My least favorite song is Who's Dreaming this dream. I love on One in a Million sometimes you forget Stevie Winwood is singing because his voice and Christine's voice are so similar.
To sort of quote Christine... they are not the most adventurous songs in the world but they are pleasing to the ears. I gave up on looking but I always wanted to know if this album was ever certified gold. I don't think it has which is a shame. If Buckingham/McVie tour, I will be in the front row with this solo album. I want to see the look on Christine's face when I hold it up. It drove me nuts to see fans putting copies of Rock A Little in front of Christine to sign :eek: I mean......really!

What?! Fans put RAL in front of Christine to sign?! Awful!

I like your post. One quibble--"Love Will Show Us How" has two consecutive verses, not one. It is, like you say, an unusual song structure. Very mid-period Beatles. But the blend of voices in the chorus doesn't sound right to my ears. There needed to be someone who could handle the top end of that to give the song a lift.

Macfan4life 02-04-2017 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1201090)
What?! Fans put RAL in front of Christine to sign?! Awful!

I like your post. One quibble--"Love Will Show Us How" has two consecutive verses, not one. It is, like you say, an unusual song structure. Very mid-period Beatles. But the blend of voices in the chorus doesn't sound right to my ears. There needed to be someone who could handle the top end of that to give the song a lift.

One quibble is fine. I can quibble right back. ;) Attached are the lyrics. One verse...then chorus... then chorus again....guitar solo...then chorus again. I do agree the flow is different but I like it because its different. The song also has a country vibe which I found odd for her. I think some keyboard work could have also helped this song. This was a great video. Christine made fun of the ridiculous videos before it was cool to do so. One pet peeve is that Christine had the worst hair cuts for both her videos. She is so beautiful but her hair stylist was bad.

Verse 1
I don't fool around on my baby
And he don't fool around on me
And I know when I need him
He'll be there for me
Ooh and if he asks me some questions
Well, I don't tell him lies
And I don't have the need
The need for alibis

Chorus
I don't know how
Love will survive
But it's all right for now
Still I believe
Love will show us how
There must be a way
To keep it alive
And so keep our vows
And I believe
Love will show us how
Still I believe
Love will show us how

Chorus
I don't know how
Love will survive
But it's all right for now
Still I believe
Love will show us how
There must be a way
To keep it alive
And so keep our vows
And I believe
Love will show us how
Still I believe
Love will show us how

aleuzzi 02-04-2017 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1201092)
One quibble is fine. I can quibble right back. ;) Attached are the lyrics. One verse...then chorus... then chorus again....guitar solo...then chorus again. I do agree the flow is different but I like it because its different. The song also has a country vibe which I found odd for her. I think some keyboard work could have also helped this song. This was a great video. Christine made fun of the ridiculous videos before it was cool to do so. One pet peeve is that Christine had the worst hair cuts for both her videos. She is so beautiful but her hair stylist was bad.

Verse 1
I don't fool around on my baby
And he don't fool around on me
And I know when I need him
He'll be there for me
Ooh and if he asks me some questions
Well, I don't tell him lies
And I don't have the need
The need for alibis

Chorus
I don't know how
Love will survive
But it's all right for now
Still I believe
Love will show us how
There must be a way
To keep it alive
And so keep our vows
And I believe
Love will show us how
Still I believe
Love will show us how

Chorus
I don't know how
Love will survive
But it's all right for now
Still I believe
Love will show us how
There must be a way
To keep it alive
And so keep our vows
And I believe
Love will show us how
Still I believe
Love will show us how

Huh! I'll be damned. Those first eight lines are considered one verse. There's a brief instrumental space between the fourth and fifth lines, and musically the fifth line returns to the bars used for the first line. Christine calls it one verse, so it's one. But if I were writing it out, I'd say two brief verses are repeated.

Macfan4life 02-05-2017 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1201096)
Huh! I'll be damned. Those first eight lines are considered one verse. There's a brief instrumental space between the fourth and fifth lines, and musically the fifth line returns to the bars used for the first line. Christine calls it one verse, so it's one. But if I were writing it out, I'd say two brief verses are repeated.

It also has one very long chorus
It definitely a unique song

BLY 02-05-2017 09:14 AM

I was very excited for this release and by 1984 I was getting use to solo releases instead of a Fleetwood Mac album which to this day I still prefer. Got a Hold on Me was a great single but even after the first listen I thought how amazing it could have been if Lindsey produced and played on it with Buckinhgam/Nicks background vocals. It would have been a great follow to Mirage's Hold Me and Gypsy singles as a Fleetwood Mac track.

nicepace 02-06-2017 01:26 PM

Before 'In the Meantime' was released, I would have said "One in a Million" was the best solo song by any member of Fleetwood Mac. Now I'd have to put some of the ITM songs up there alongside it.

I would love to hear Christine and Lindsey sing "One in a Million" together if they tour to support their upcoming album. How do people like the idea? How does everyone think Lindsey would do with the Steve Winwood vocal part?

jbrownsjr 02-06-2017 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 1201203)
Before 'In the Meantime' was released, I would have said "One in a Million" was the best solo song by any member of Fleetwood Mac. Now I'd have to put some of the ITM songs up there alongside it.

I would love to hear Christine and Lindsey sing "One in a Million" together if they tour to support their upcoming album. How do people like the idea? How does everyone think Lindsey would do with the Steve Winwood vocal part?

I think he would cut it really nicely!

Macfan4life 02-06-2017 05:45 PM

One in a million is a great song and it was particularly cool live because Christine sung it front mic and center stage. Gosh I wish video existed of one of her solo shows other than the Country Club which was filmed almost a half year before her tour.

Macfan4life 02-21-2018 06:26 PM

Turns 34 this year. Got A Hold On Me was burning up the charts this week in 1984 with a top 10 peak date of March 24.

jbrownsjr 02-22-2018 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1220864)
Turns 34 this year. Got A Hold On Me was burning up the charts this week in 1984 with a top 10 peak date of March 24.

I remember you couldn't turn a radio or MTV on without hearing the words Christine McVie.

I'm glad the tour wasn't a blockbuster tour. I got to sit near her piano in a club while she played! :blob2:

StevieandChris 02-23-2018 11:27 PM

One in a Million is my favorite. Such a great album.

Macfan4life 02-24-2018 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by StevieandChris (Post 1220931)
One in a Million is my favorite. Such a great album.

I agree. Its what really made me buy the album. I think I have mentioned this before but I was out celebrating my 14th birthday with family and friends. I was in the department store looking at the album. The stereos in the store were tuned to the local rock station and as I hold the album in my hands they introduced One In A Million and I was blown away. I knew instantly I had to have that album. Violet and Blue was also released about the same time and sometimes they would play these songs back to back.

becca 02-28-2018 05:34 PM

A very solid album at the very least with at least three all-time 'best of' tracks. It does show a little of the '80s production sheen, but I don't think in a bad way at all, not anymore than Steve Winwood or Yes of the same time does. Stevie's Belladonna was so strong because of an excess of material she had in store, so I'd have to rate it higher, but Christine's '80s album isn't too far behind, and I think it's stronger than other Nicks releases of the decade. At the time I was very surprised when there wasn't another solo release from her at some point in the next dozen years.

Macfan4life 03-01-2018 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by becca (Post 1221042)
A very solid album at the very least with at least three all-time 'best of' tracks. It does show a little of the '80s production sheen, but I don't think in a bad way at all, not anymore than Steve Winwood or Yes of the same time does. Stevie's Belladonna was so strong because of an excess of material she had in store, so I'd have to rate it higher, but Christine's '80s album isn't too far behind, and I think it's stronger than other Nicks releases of the decade. At the time I was very surprised when there wasn't another solo release from her at some point in the next dozen years.

Christine stated she never wanted to do a solo album but Warner Brothers heavily persuaded her to do so. That is why she enlisted Todd to write a good bit of songs with her. She did not want to do it alone. You are right, the album does not sound very dated for 1984. I really liked her stepping out with some creativity writing and working with Todd. Looking back however I think the album would have been better if it was only 100% Christine songs. Its a very traditional album. Nothing fancy or high tech for 1984. It could have benefited from a little flash here and there.

aleuzzi 03-04-2018 11:54 AM

I was just listening the album in my car. What impresses me most upon hear it now is how well it was recorded. I too believe more tracks needed to be written by Christine alone. The weakest part of the record (for me) are the three tracks that are sandwhiched between Got a Hold on Me and Smile I Live For.

One in a Million STILL thrills me when I hear it. Smile I Live For was the last track written and, presumably, the last recorded. According to Chris, she wrote it in Switzerland. It’s such a fantastic song—and it reminds me in mood and tempo of Carnival Begin.

Macfan4life 03-04-2018 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1221093)
I was just listening the album in my car. What impresses me most upon hear it now is how well it was recorded. I too believe more tracks needed to be written by Christine alone. The weakest part of the record (for me) are the three tracks that are sandwhiched between Got a Hold on Me and Smile I Live For.

One in a Million STILL thrills me when I hear it. Smile I Live For was the last track written and, presumably, the last recorded. According to Chris, she wrote it in Switzerland. It’s such a fantastic song—and it reminds me in mood and tempo of Carnival Begin.

The Smile I Live For is an amazing song. Its a song that Christine wrote around the title. I forget who but some woman close to Christine was talking about her significant other and there was a picture of him. The woman exclaimed "that is the smile I live for." Christine loved the phrase and asked the woman if she could use it in a song. Then Christine wrote a song around the phrase. Pretty cool stuff. Lindsey on guitar on the song is incredible too!!!!

jbrownsjr 03-30-2018 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1221098)
The Smile I Live For is an amazing song. Its a song that Christine wrote around the title. I forget who but some woman close to Christine was talking about her significant other and there was a picture of him. The woman exclaimed "that is the smile I live for." Christine loved the phrase and asked the woman if she could use it in a song. Then Christine wrote a song around the phrase. Pretty cool stuff. Lindsey on guitar on the song is incredible too!!!!

I play Carnival Begin and The Smile .. back to back.. I love BuckVie... Just incredible music..

aleuzzi 08-23-2022 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1201092)
One quibble is fine. I can quibble right back. ;) Attached are the lyrics. One verse...then chorus... then chorus again....guitar solo...then chorus again. I do agree the flow is different but I like it because its different. The song also has a country vibe which I found odd for her. I think some keyboard work could have also helped this song. This was a great video. Christine made fun of the ridiculous videos before it was cool to do so. One pet peeve is that Christine had the worst hair cuts for both her videos. She is so beautiful but her hair stylist was bad.

Verse 1
I don't fool around on my baby
And he don't fool around on me
And I know when I need him
He'll be there for me
Ooh and if he asks me some questions
Well, I don't tell him lies
And I don't have the need
The need for alibis

Chorus
I don't know how
Love will survive
But it's all right for now
Still I believe
Love will show us how
There must be a way
To keep it alive
And so keep our vows
And I believe
Love will show us how
Still I believe
Love will show us how

Chorus
I don't know how
Love will survive
But it's all right for now
Still I believe
Love will show us how
There must be a way
To keep it alive
And so keep our vows
And I believe
Love will show us how
Still I believe
Love will show us how

I happened upon my Christine McVie (1984) cd today and looked at the lyrics for "Love Will Show Us How." My initial impression (that there are two concise verses before the long chorus, rather than one long verse) is correct. On the lyric sheet there are the first four lines, then a space, then the second four lines--each quatrain is its own stanza. I knew this to be the case because there is a brief instrumental bridge between the two verses.

Not sure what lyric sheet you were consulting. Maybe you were looking at the original album sleeve? If so, the words are arranged differently on the cd package.

aleuzzi 08-23-2022 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1221385)
I play Carnival Begin and The Smile .. back to back.. I love BuckVie... Just incredible music..

That is like nine minutes of heaven right there.

jbrownsjr 08-23-2022 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1277297)
That is like nine minutes of heaven right there.

I finally get to know how the sun feels, every time it shines; but only when I listen to those songs back to back.

aleuzzi 08-23-2022 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1277299)
I finally get to know how the sun feels, every time it shines; but only when I listen to those songs back to back.

Those songs give me freedom in my mouth.

HomerMcvie 08-23-2022 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1277301)
Those songs give me freedom in my mouth.

I'd spit!;)

aleuzzi 08-23-2022 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1277303)
I'd spit!;)

Yeah, freedom has a strange taste.

HomerMcvie 08-23-2022 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1277304)
Yeah, freedom has a strange taste.

The smile I live for.

jbrownsjr 08-25-2022 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1277305)
The smile I live for.

Ask Anybody, I eat pineapple.

HomerMcvie 08-25-2022 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1277343)
Ask Anybody, I eat pineapple.

I'm So Excited!

jbrownsjr 08-25-2022 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1277344)
I'm So Excited!

Freedom is standing next to you
My intentions were clear
I was with him
Everyone knew
Poor little fool:nod:

HomerMcvie 08-25-2022 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1277345)
Freedom is standing next to you
My intentions were clear
I was with him
Everyone knew
Poor little fool:nod:

You lost me on that one....is that $tevie's clunker(well, one of them) on BTM?

jbrownsjr 08-25-2022 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1277349)
You lost me on that one....is that $tevie's clunker(well, one of them) on BTM?

Yes, and there is freedom, all around you, every time that you walk in the room!

David 08-25-2022 02:58 PM

You made me happy, but time has gone by
Please leave me softly, I won’t say goodbye

jbrownsjr 08-25-2022 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1277360)
You made me happy, but time has gone by
Please leave me softly, I won’t say goodbye

Thoughts on a gay day?

HomerMcvie 08-25-2022 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1277363)
Thoughts on a gay day?

No Questions Asked, Don't Tell.

jbrownsjr 08-25-2022 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1277370)
No Questions Asked, Don't Tell.

As Long As You Swallow


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