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ryan4136 05-11-2018 07:57 PM

LB playing live for first time since split
 
LB is playing at a fundraiser tonight. Interesting to see what he goes with.

elle 05-11-2018 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan4136 (Post 1227563)
LB is playing at a fundraiser tonight. Interesting to see what he goes with.

agree! i suspect just a few of his acoustic classics, considering it's not his show.

elle 05-11-2018 08:56 PM

sold out. LB should be on at 8pm, apparently.



elle 05-11-2018 10:00 PM

SUD

The one and only #lindseybuckingham

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bombaysaffires 05-11-2018 10:07 PM

it looks like he's wearing much the same outfit in both the birthday pic and here--- black shirt (and not a V-neck or tee shirt, either!) and black jacket..... symbolic??

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iamnotafraid 05-11-2018 10:38 PM

I thought he was answering with such class.
But then he lost me when he went political.

I know it was a political event. And I expected
him to be liberal like the majority of celebrities
are. Even so, I am disappointed.

I wish I hadn't even watched the video.

wondergirl9847 05-11-2018 10:39 PM

Awesome!!
 
Love hearing from him finally and he did a nice little acoustic set. :thumbsup:

Thank you for posting these! :blob2:

dreamsunwind 05-11-2018 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1227595)


Such a classy statement. SOME band members could take a lesson or two.
And Lindsey's been a democrat forever, his political statements shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone especially considering the nature of this event to begin with.

secondhandchain 05-11-2018 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1227597)
I thought he was answering with such class.
But then he lost me when he went political.

I know it was a political event. And I expected
him to be liberal like the majority of celebrities
are. Even so, I am disappointed.

I wish I hadn't even watched the video.

He's ALOUD TO HAVE A FREAKING OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry he offended you for that. Jesus H Christ!!!! Your statement makes me raging angry! This is a mostly two party system in this country chances are he's going to be one or the other, who gives a CRAP! He didn't even say anything that outrageous. Why don't you stop listening to him now? Stop going to football, stop watching movies, stop listening to liberal guitar players. UGH A certain person lost me when he made fun of the handicapped but I have to see him everyday. And when you makes statements like your post you are BEGGING to piss off half the posters here when you make it seem like being liberal which is HALF THE COUNTRY is a huge disgusting sin, It's not.

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bombaysaffires 05-11-2018 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1227597)
I thought he was answering with such class.
But then he lost me when he went political.

I know it was a political event. And I expected
him to be liberal like the majority of celebrities
are. Even so, I am disappointed.

I wish I hadn't even watched the video.

Really?? John has made political references in the past, like "Oh no, DEFINITELY not Labour" with a face like he just ate a lemon. And he wasn't even at a political event. It sorta surprised me but, you know, it's a free country. I still think he's the greatest bass player ever.

Lindsey was playing at a fundraiser for a democratic candidate. He would need to say SOMETHING to the crowd, and he was on-message for the event. He also made it clear that a big reason he was there was that he was asked by Cameron Crowe, the director, with whom he is good friends and he says "I would do anything for Cameron". You know, loyalty.

dreamsunwind 05-11-2018 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1227614)
Really?? John has made political references in the past, like "Oh no, DEFINITELY not Labour" with a face like he just ate a lemon. And he wasn't even at a political event. It sorta surprised me but, you know, it's a free country. I still think he's the greatest bass player ever.

Lindsey was playing at a fundraiser for a democratic candidate. He would need to say SOMETHING to the crowd, and he was on-message for the event. He also made it clear that a big reason he was there was that he was asked by Cameron Crow, the director, with whom he is good friends and he says "I would do anything for Cameron". You know, loyalty.

Not to mention that Lindsey's made his political views loud and clear before (dedicating Treason to George Bush for example) so really it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that at this political event, he made political statements that revealed his political leanings.

Dr.Brown 05-11-2018 11:43 PM

I'll preface by saying that I'm sure I largely disagree with his politics but Lindsey was speaking at political fundraiser and sharing his views - I respect that. I think he addressed what happened with incredible class, given that he was basically stabbed in the back by a "faction" within the band. I agree that this move has indeed damaged the band's legacy.
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bombaysaffires 05-11-2018 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Brown (Post 1227634)
I'll preface by saying that I'm sure I largely disagree with his politics but Lindsey was speaking at political fundraiser and sharing his views - I respect that. I think he addressed what happened with incredible class, given that he was basically stabbed in the back by a "faction" within the band. I agree that this move has indeed damaged the band's legacy.
.

:nod: :(

lilyfee 05-12-2018 12:26 AM

Am I being too hopeful or did he seem like he’d be forgiving if reconciliation was on the table?

The part that interested me most was how he talked about the “factions” losing their perspective and not rising above to fulfill their destiny... what does he mean by that? I take it to mean that Stevie would rather tour/get money over pursuing creative fulfillment through an album... but that doesn’t really seem to fit with the established narrative given that no Fleetwood Mac album was on the table. Unless he is saying that they tried to suppress his artistic truth because he wanted to use this time for another album, as was reported in the press. This whole thing is so sad.

secret love 05-12-2018 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1227595)


Not surprised Linds is a Democrat! I am too (well, I'm in the Australian Labor Party).

elle 05-12-2018 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by lilyfee (Post 1227658)
Am I being too hopeful or did he seem like he’d be forgiving if reconciliation was on the table?

The part that interested me most was how he talked about the “factions” losing their perspective and not rising above to fulfill their destiny... what does he mean by that? I take it to mean that Stevie would rather tour/get money over pursuing creative fulfillment through an album... but that doesn’t really seem to fit with the established narrative given that no Fleetwood Mac album was on the table. Unless he is saying that they tried to suppress his artistic truth because he wanted to use this time for another album, as was reported in the press. This whole thing is so sad.

i think you are probably overthinking it. i think factions is just saying it was not the whole band but just some people who ousted him. he always talks about them staying together as a band to fulfill their destiny, raising above themselves to be better people, that kind of stuff.


this evening was so cathartic - i never in a million years thought he was gonna address FM issues tonight at that event. i'm so glad he did, and in such an amazing, eloquent, classy way.

#wearenotworthy


and he told several fans who were there that he will be releasing Best Of album and is planning the fall tour, possibly to start in August (or maybe September?). this evening was like a dream come true and clouds finally lifting!

i loved that he also talked about new opportunities.

secret love 05-12-2018 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1227669)
i think you are probably overthinking it. i think factions is just saying it was not the whole band but just some people who ousted him. he always talks about them staying together as a band to fulfill their destiny, raising above themselves to be better people, that kind of stuff.


this evening was so cathartic - i never in a million years thought he was gonna address FM issues tonight at that event. i'm so glad he did, and in such an amazing, eloquent, classy way.

#wearenotworthy


and he told several fans who were there that he will be releasing Best Of album and is planning the fall tour, possibly to start in August (or maybe September?). this evening was like a dream come true and clouds finally lifting!

i loved that he also talked about new opportunities.

I feel like such a sucker for buying a Fleetwood Mac ticket. How are they able to go on with people who themselves are ex members of established bands? It tarnishes the legacy of Crowded House and of Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers, not just Fleetwood Mac.
This man is so articulate, sensitive and intelligent.
Shame on Fleetwood Mac.

dreamsunwind 05-12-2018 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1227667)
Not surprised Linds is a Democrat! I am too (well, I'm in the Australian Labor Party).

Lol right???
Everything about him screams Democrat. I can't believe some people were mad about it :laugh:

SteveMacD 05-12-2018 01:05 AM

“Some factions” tells me that he doesn’t blame everyone in the band.

“Losing perspective” is completely open to interpretation. Maybe at this stage, his perspective and theirs were just too far removed. It happens, and it sucks.

Either way, I am sad that it was Lindsey who got booted.

dreamsunwind 05-12-2018 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lilyfee (Post 1227658)
Am I being too hopeful or did he seem like he’d be forgiving if reconciliation was on the table?

The part that interested me most was how he talked about the “factions” losing their perspective and not rising above to fulfill their destiny... what does he mean by that? I take it to mean that Stevie would rather tour/get money over pursuing creative fulfillment through an album... but that doesn’t really seem to fit with the established narrative given that no Fleetwood Mac album was on the table. Unless he is saying that they tried to suppress his artistic truth because he wanted to use this time for another album, as was reported in the press. This whole thing is so sad.

Maybe down the line when enough time has passed and wounds have healed...but they might be too old for that sadly.
And I think he meant it to be a general statement that they got caught up in the conflict/desire for money/easy way out and lost sight of the most important thing-- preserving the legacy of that beautiful band. And he's 150% right that that is the saddest thing about it all. I don't think he's as upset about them screwing him over as he is about the legacy being ruined. It might have been part of his psychoanalysis therapist babble, but I always fully believed that what he said about cycles was true, and that it really meant a lot for him to 'finish' the journey.

SteveMacD 05-12-2018 01:14 AM

Hell, I disagreed with most of one lineup of Guided by Voices politically and agreed completely with another. I rode in vans for weeks at a time with these people, and gladly would again, either way. Politics is only one part of life. People have different outlooks. Doesn’t mean people have to live exclusively through that lense.

dontlookdown 05-12-2018 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1227597)
I thought he was answering with such class.
But then he lost me when he went political.

I know it was a political event. And I expected
him to be liberal like the majority of celebrities
are. Even so, I am disappointed.

I wish I hadn't even watched the video.

The majority of educated Americans who live in big cities tend to be engaged in their communities and politically active. Why is that disappointing?
This is a democracy and thank god there are still people who have a point of view with critical thinking skills intact. There’s a big world out there when you turn off Fox News. Wake the **** up.

FuzzyPlum 05-12-2018 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1227597)
I thought he was answering with such class.
But then he lost me when he went political.

I know it was a political event. And I expected
him to be liberal like the majority of celebrities
are. Even so, I am disappointed.

I wish I hadn't even watched the video.


????? Bit of a strange one.

I can't seem to find it now but I'm sure there was footage of Lindsey a couple of years ago playing guitar (with another musician- cant remember who) at another political fundraiser. Was it for Tim Kaine????

Storms123 05-12-2018 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1227715)
????? Bit of a strange one.

I can't seem to find it now but I'm sure there was footage of Lindsey a couple of years ago playing guitar (with another musician- cant remember who) at another political fundraiser. Was it for Tim Kaine????

Yes, Tim Kaine.

elle 05-12-2018 12:18 PM

LB is a democrat and fans know it, on both sides of the aisle as far as politics goes - and that doesn't defer them from being fans. :nod:

we can stop discussing that particular kind of politics here.

bombaysaffires 05-12-2018 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1227734)
LB is a democrat and fans know it, on both sides of the aisle as far as politics goes - and that doesn't defer them from being fans. :nod:

we can stop discussing that particular kind of politics here.

Right. And John is a conservative, whichever political party in the UK he chooses to align with. He's never said but he's been clear he's strongly not Labour.

And he's in a band with at least one avowed Democrat.

And yet I like them both. Go figure.

bombaysaffires 05-12-2018 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamsunwind (Post 1227675)
Maybe down the line when enough time has passed and wounds have healed...but they might be too old for that sadly.
And I think he meant it to be a general statement that they got caught up in the conflict/desire for money/easy way out and lost sight of the most important thing-- preserving the legacy of that beautiful band. And he's 150% right that that is the saddest thing about it all. I don't think he's as upset about them screwing him over as he is about the legacy being ruined. It might have been part of his psychoanalysis therapist babble, but I always fully believed that what he said about cycles was true, and that it really meant a lot for him to 'finish' the journey.

Exactly!

He even stated what that was-- that their legacy, their "higher calling" whatever... was to rise above the daily grind of the egos and everything else involved in being in a band (broken hearts, anyone?) and soldier on to make good music. He *said* this in his comments.

And now they are *not* rising above the difficulties and disagreements and challenges to find a way forward, and he's saying it's sad that given how often they HAVE managed to do this in the past (breakups, people leaving, etc) they can't pull it out just one last time so they can end on a note of surviving all the vicissitudes of rock success. In the end, in the final hour, they managed to not live up to their own track record and legacy of patching it up and soldiering on for one last tour. Now they'll be remembered for holding it together long enough to fall apart at the very end.

I think the "factions" bit, like people have said, means he recognizes certain people were the instigators and certain other people got swept along in the momentum (e.g., John possibly, and Chris).

elle 05-12-2018 02:58 PM

y'all know that it pains me to have to post Trouble video, but here it is anway, from last night


elle 05-12-2018 03:02 PM

Shut Us Down with intro -


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elle 05-12-2018 04:02 PM

Cameron Crowe introducing LB yesterday - very very nice!



elle 05-12-2018 04:04 PM

vintage Linds



Murrow 05-12-2018 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1227771)

This seems the most poignant of his songs at the moment. He sounded a bit choked on the line "I'm never going back again".

bombaysaffires 05-12-2018 08:51 PM

Do we see a message in his choice of songs? Wasn't it Shut Us Down, Trouble, and Never Going Back Again?

just the titles alone send a sort of message.....

elle 05-12-2018 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1227806)
Do we see a message in his choice of songs? Wasn't it Shut Us Down, Trouble, and Never Going Back Again?

just the titles alone send a sort of message.....

and Big Love.

if you wanna see a message you can, but judging by the short acoustic sets he did at other events that's usually his choice of songs. he did songs that people either know or show off his prowess (SUD). plus other than Big Love, the other 3 songs were opening of BuckVie tour set.


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