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Villavic 02-22-2012 04:28 PM

Do you miss the Eddy Quintela era?
 
According to sources, Christine met Eddy Quintela during her solo album production (circa 1984). They got married in 1986 and divorced in the mid 90s, before The Dance.

He co-wrote several songs with Christine. Little Lies, Isn't it Midnight, Temporary One, Save Me, As long as you follow!!, Sooner or Later..

I love Christine songs from that era. I don't think her divorce was the reason for not keep touring with Fleetwood Mac but probably it influenced her decision to retire and live in England. Eddie-Christine songs are beautiful, and Christine songs from 1984 t0 1997 were, many of them, beautiful too, probably inspired in a happy moment of her life. I miss that era, probably her best.

PenguinHead 02-24-2012 01:14 AM

Interesting. I never knew I missed the Quintela era until you mentioned it. I generally think of Christine's songs as self-penned. But she wrote quite a few songs with collaboraters, Eddy being the most prolific. They worked well together. I suppose they are completely estranged now. Was Christine ever on record for saying why they parted?

I don't know much about him. Was he a musician or established in the music industry before meeting Christine?

HomerMcvie 02-24-2012 01:39 AM

I only know that he played keyboards, too....


He has no article on Wiki, so my guess would be no!:lol:

Matthew 02-24-2012 11:06 AM

I love this era. Definitely best era of Christine´s songs in my opinion. I grew up with songs like Everywhere, Little Lies and As Long As You Follow. And when I heard Behind The Mask or Time for the first time I fell in love with Nigths In Estoril .. or Heart Of Stone is great song too. Her work during this time is my favourite much more than Rumours or so...

vivfox 02-24-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew (Post 1041277)
Definitely best era of Christine´s songs when I heard Behind The Mask or Time for the first time I fell in love with Nigths In Estoril .

It's on her solo album that came out this century, not Behind The Mask which was released in 1990.

bangdrum 02-24-2012 04:31 PM

Actually, it's on Time which came out in 1995. :p

vivfox 02-24-2012 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bangdrum (Post 1041330)
Actually, it's on Time which came out in 1995. :p

Touche. You got me. I had that album and gave it away after one listen.

HomerMcvie 02-24-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1041332)
Touche. You got me. I had that album and gave it away after one listen.

That's how I got my SYW. My friend gave it one listen, hated it, and gave it to me!:laugh:

David 02-24-2012 09:57 PM

I miss the 1974-1976 Christine McVie era.

I had to go look up the Eddy Quintela era.

HomerMcvie 02-24-2012 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1041351)
I miss the 1974-1976 Christine McVie era.

I had to go look up the Eddy Quintela era.

I miss the 1970-1998 Christine era.


And I wouldn't miss Eddy, if he'd only stand still.:laugh:

aleuzzi 02-25-2012 02:48 AM

I like her collaborations more with her nephew. The songs on ITM are a lot catchier, in the spirit of Christine's 70s work, than with the Eddie collaborations. I do love Little Lies, Hollywood, Temporary One, and Save Me--but I feel that, on the whole, her songs are not as interesting with him. The least impressive song (not performance) on ITM is Easy Come-Easy Go, the only Christine-Eddie collaboration.

HomerMcvie 02-25-2012 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1041379)
The least impressive song (not performance) on ITM is Easy Come-Easy Go, the only Christine-Eddie collaboration.

I like her collaborations more with her nephew.

I didn't realize that that was an Eddy co-write. But I agree.

Calumny and Northern Star are absolute perfection. And I think the production on both, are better than anything Lindsey could have done.

chriskisn 02-25-2012 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1041332)
Touche. You got me. I had that album and gave it away after one listen.

You did what? Bad Viv! :mad:


:lol:

aleuzzi 02-25-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1041386)

Calumny and Northern Star are absolute perfection. And I think the production on both, are better than anything Lindsey could have done.

Agreed! Both of those, btw, are Danny Perfect songs. Her vocals on both of them are terrific.

michelej1 02-25-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1041386)
I didn't realize that that was an Eddy co-write. But I agree.

Calumny and Northern Star are absolute perfection. And I think the production on both, are better than anything Lindsey could have done.

Calumny is one of the Top 5 songs in her career, in my estimation. The lyrics are captivating. Her voice is so expressive, worn, pained, craggy, jagged. She's got such masterful control of her tone, giving us the message in each line.

Northern Star is my second favorite song on the album. The production on it is fine, but I do wonder about an FM arrangement, if not on the record, then in concert. This is the one song on that album that I would have liked her to do at a Fleetwood Mac concert. I wouldn't have anyone else but her on vocal, but I would like to hear the rest of the band playing along with her, especially at the song's end.

Michele

aleuzzi 02-26-2012 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1041425)
Northern Star is my second favorite song on the album. The production on it is fine, but I do wonder about an FM arrangement, if not on the record, then in concert.

Michele

Lindsey would've probably used studio gadgetry on her voice, like he did on Tango, like he does for himself. One of the things I love about ITM is the arrangements are spare and feature her voice in its unaltered glory. Not since Tusk did she sound that good in the studio. The no-touring thing agrees with her.

Of all the songs on ITM, the one closest to an FM song is, I think, Giving it Back, which sounds like it could have fallen off Mirage. Great tune!

Rod~A~Little 02-26-2012 09:57 PM

I also seemed to have permently misplaced my Time cd until about a month ago. I rediscovered Nights In Estoril and noticed that Eddy was a co-writer. Then I remembered all the great songs they collaborated on.

It would have been interesting to hear what might have been had they stayed together. Oh well,..

HomerMcvie 02-26-2012 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rod~A~Little (Post 1041589)
I also seemed to have permently misplaced my Time cd until about a month ago. I rediscovered Nights In Estoril and noticed that Eddy was a co-writer. Then I remembered all the great songs they collaborated on.

It would have been interesting to hear what might have been had they stayed together. Oh well,..

Do we really know the reason for the breakup? I don't recall that I've ever heard one.

He must either be a cheater, or an ass....(couldn't be Chris' fault....*sticking fingers into my ears, "la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la"*)

michelej1 02-27-2012 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1041590)
Do we really know the reason for the breakup? I don't recall that I've ever heard one.

He must either be a cheater, or an ass....(couldn't be Chris' fault....*sticking fingers into my ears, "la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la"*)

I remember around The Dance, Stevie said that Eddy said that if Christine toured, he was leaving. That seemed so odd. If Christine shared that ultimatum with Stevie, I don't know why she went public with it. But I don't know why Eddy would take that stand anyway. I would have guessed that she would be more opposed to touring than he would. Touring helped earn the money that would keep him living in the style to which he'd become accustomed.:laugh:.

Michele

michelej1 02-27-2012 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1041587)
Lindsey would've probably used studio gadgetry on her voice, like he did on Tango, like he does for himself.

I was most interested in what FM would do to the song in concert. The ending seemed like something that would be quite rousing on stage.

Michele

HomerMcvie 02-27-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1041602)
I remember around The Dance, Stevie said that Eddy said that if Christine toured, he was leaving. That seemed so odd. If Christine shared that ultimatum with Stevie, I don't know why she went public with it. But I don't know why Eddy would take that stand anyway. I would have guessed that she would be more opposed to touring than he would. Touring helped earn the money that would keep him living in the style to which he'd become accustomed.:laugh:.

Michele

Well I'll put that in the "ass" category! :laugh:

I know, though. Wouldn't he want Momma bringing home some extra big bucks?

I can't imagine Christine caving to anyone's ultimatums.

Rod~A~Little 02-28-2012 06:03 PM

Yes, what an ass!...And seriously? Like he didn't know what he was getting into when he met Christine!

Geez!!!!

Villavic 02-28-2012 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rod~A~Little (Post 1041787)
Yes, what an ass!...And seriously? Like he didn't know what he was getting into when he met Christine!

Geez!!!!

C&E met in 1984, The Dance was in 1997, so definitely he knew. I think there were more reasons than a tour. Don't know about the source that says Stevie said that (or is there a video?) but I can't believe they separated just because of the 1997 Reunion tour. Or maybe Eddie said that within a more complex context.

I just think the relationship was going bad in the last years and they finally broke up.

Richard B 03-01-2012 09:30 AM

I think there was a big age gap between Christine and Eddy, with Christine being older. I know some people think age doesn't matter, but I think it does. Not so much in loving, but in practical daily life it sure does. I will not date anyone younger than 30.

michelej1 03-01-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard B (Post 1041941)
I think there was a big age gap between Christine and Eddy, with Christine being older. I know some people think age doesn't matter, but I think it does. Not so much in loving, but in practical daily life it sure does. I will not date anyone younger than 30.

But it was a long term relationship, even if it eventually ended. I think if they were just bascially ill-suited for each other those kind of things break up in a couple of years. Michele

Hellolovely 05-08-2013 01:31 PM

What ever happened to Mr Q? He seems to have just disappeared.

chiliD 05-08-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellolovely (Post 1092085)
What ever happened to Mr Q? He seems to have just disappeared.

His "15 minutes" was up...probably disappeared back into the Estoril alleyways after the pumpkin carriage turned back into a real pumpkin.


I'd read in some article back around the Dance tour time (can't remember exactly where) that there were some fidelity issues with Eddy while Christine was away during the Dance tour.

Aisling 05-08-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 1092096)
His "15 minutes" was up...probably disappeared back into the Estoril alleyways after the pumpkin carriage turned back into a real pumpkin.

This visual provided me with a much needed laugh today. I see him in that alleyway now, stumbling about, crying into his beer!

michelej1 05-08-2013 07:48 PM

When they divorced, it was really quiet. We didn't hear about the filing like we just did with Mick and Lynn. I wonder if Mr. Quintela asked for any support.

Michele

SteveMacD 05-08-2013 07:59 PM

Maybe EQ had an issue with Christine being in Fleetwood Mac at that point. She retired from the road in 1990 and her "Time" songs made it obvious that she was done with Fleetwood Mac. Suddenly, she started doing session work with Lindsey, Mick and John which morphed into Fleetwood Mac's "Hell Freezes Over" type live reunion album/DVD/TV event. Then there was a short 40-city tour. Not only was she back with Fleetwood Mac, but she was also touring with them? And you know there was a lot of pressure for them to continue that tour. Those things can be tough on a spouse. The industry pressure alone can be too much.

Not defending the guy. Just putting it in a different perspective.

As for his Cinderella story ending, he still gets royalty checks, so he has to be doing pretty well.

michelej1 05-08-2013 08:08 PM

Yes, I did an IMDB search and Eddy's name came up when Little Lies appeared on Dancing with the Stars and in some movie. So, if it ever breaks out again the way Everywhere just did, he can be rolling in the moolah like it was still 1987.

Michele

Hellolovely 05-08-2013 09:16 PM

By all accounts he seemed like a pretty decent guy and they were certainly together for quite a while (14 years). I think it's great that they were able to separate and have it kept very quiet and private without having a tabloid-spun blow by blow in the press; that says a lot about both of them. I know he was into music before he met Chris, and certainly was during their marriage, and I thought I read he moved back to Lisbon - was just curious if he was still in the music business at all.

becca 05-08-2013 10:35 PM

Eddy Quintela was a musician and song writer before crossing paths with Christine. He was very talented in both areas and the songs are great but the heavy-handed, usually boringly synthesized, product that was produced in those years doesn't stand up well I don't feel. People like Buckingham are to blame spending over a year per album polishing and tweaking... it probably really got started with Brian Wilson and John Phillips before him though. I would love to have earlier versions of all those songs!

I gave away the double LP Tusk after one listen in 1979-80, so if someone did the same with Time I can't really fault them on just that. I didn't even buy Time myself until quite some time later. I like and respect Buckingham as a guitarist and singer, but most of Tusk belonged on a solo album of his own.

Dex 05-09-2013 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by becca (Post 1092144)
Eddy Quintela was a musician and song writer before crossing paths with Christine. He was very talented in both areas and the songs are great but the heavy-handed, usually boringly synthesized, product that was produced in those years doesn't stand up well I don't feel.

I can see how people could think that. But heavily-synthed and arguably over-produced Christine songs are actually the ones that work best for me. Maybe because she's never been a singer/songwriter that packs a huge emotional wallop for me (with a few exceptions), I find that sort of treatment suits her songs well in a way that I don't find at all when LB does it to his own writing. With Chris, I don't feel like anything is really lost in the production, and I don't think I'd really appreciate an earlier demo of these songs all that much. The finished products are pure pop perfection to my ears, and in a way I'm sorry that a lot of her best Quintela collabs are on BTM and Time, because a lot of people are really missing out.

I'm actually a bad Mac fan. I just assumed that Everywhere was a Quintela collaboration along with Little Lies, just because of how darn snappy it is. I need to pay more attention to liner notes!

Hellolovely 06-08-2013 09:07 PM

Does anyone else get a chuckle out of the fact that Eddy's daughters name is "Sara"? :laugh:

Ulpian 06-09-2013 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hellolovely (Post 1095419)
Does anyone else get a chuckle out of the fact that Eddy's daughters name is "Sara"? :laugh:

How do we know this? I missed out that he had kid(s).

Hellolovely 06-09-2013 11:59 AM

Unfortunately all I know for sure is that he has a daughter named Sara. She was born sometime after he and Chris divorced, I believe.

michelej1 06-09-2013 02:15 PM

Of course, I don't know what Eddy looks like these days and what kind of shape he is in, but remember back then it was noteworthy that Chris was with a younger man. Today, I'm sure if you saw them together, no one would guess that he was the younger one.

Michele

Ulpian 06-09-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1095460)
Of course, I don't know what Eddy looks like these days and what kind of shape he is in, but remember back then it was noteworthy that Chris was with a younger man. Today, I'm sure if you saw them together, no one would guess that he was the younger one.

Michele

I saw some photos of him circa 2000 and he had a new girlfriend and had become, recently, a US citizen. I still have no idea what he does (or did). He could still be involved in music somehow. Who knows?

Villavic 06-10-2013 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulpian (Post 1095431)
How do we know this? I missed out that he had kid(s).

And Sara's sisters are Greta, Jane and Annabel Lee? ;)


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