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secret love 05-05-2018 06:07 PM

Am I the only one who is really excited to see the new Mac?
 
Am I the only Ledgie who is really excited to see the new line up? I bought a ticket to the Sacramento show. I will be travelling all the way from Sydney Australia and have a seat on Christine's side on the arena floor which cost $280 US or $370 AU. I think it will be worth every cent. I can't wait to hear Neil's renditions of Man of the World and Go Your Own Way. I saw Stevie and Chrissy in Sacramento and Sydney. I will also see the Mac in Sydney if they come to my home town but I didn't want to risk missing out and I love Sacramento and San Francisco.
Obviously like any true fan I would prefer Lindsey to Neil and Mike, but they had reached an impasse. It appears Lindsey did not want to tour without new music, or wanted to delay the tour indefinitely for some other reason. Would you fans honestly have preferred the only other alternative to the band continuing without Lindsey? That is, the band breaking up and never touring or recording again?
I honestly think Lindsey should not have been replaced. They should have tour as a foursome and not done any Lindsey songs that Stevie and Christine could not sing on their own. One of their back up guitarists surely could have stepped up to lead guitar quite capably.
All that said, Neil and Mike have great chops and this is a fantastic new line up I will gladly take a long haul flight to see.

sasja 05-05-2018 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1226788)
Am I the only Ledgie who is really excited to see the new line up?

Maybe? Prolly, if I were the only other Ledgie? I am personally thinking I'd rather go watch grass grow or paint dry. :nod::nod::nod:

I mean there is SUCH good music out there, hundreds of artists I'd rather go see than this ridiculousness.

That's just MOO, though of course. Discuss.

secret love 05-05-2018 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sasja (Post 1226791)
Maybe? Prolly, if I were the only other Ledgie? I am personally thinking I'd rather go watch grass grow or paint dry. :nod::nod::nod:

I mean there is SUCH good music out there, hundreds of artists I'd rather go see than this ridiculousness.

That's just MOO, though of course. Discuss.

We're going to get a hear a bunch of Peter Green and Bob Welch era stuff we haven't heard in decades. That's reason enough to be excited in my book. And apart from Go Your Own Way and his Tusk and Say You Will stuff, there's not a lot of Lindsey songs that thrill me all that much.

secret love 05-05-2018 06:34 PM

Let's put it this way, to all the fans boycotting this tour because there is no Lindsey, did you boycott the Say You Will tour, or the Unleashed tour, or the Live 2013 tour, because there was no Christine? She's had more hits than Lindsey and was in the band longer prior to her departure.
What's the difference? Is it different because she retired not got sacked? Or is it different because she wasn't replaced?
If they didn't replace Lindsey and just toured as a foursome with a fill in guitarist and didn't sing Lindsey songs, would you be less angry?

elle 05-05-2018 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1226788)
Am I the only Ledgie who is really excited to see the new line up?

you are not the only one, tons of people here - http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=57849

bombaysaffires 05-05-2018 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1226802)
Let's put it this way, to all the fans boycotting this tour because there is no Lindsey, did you boycott the Say You Will tour, or the Unleashed tour, or the Live 2013 tour, because there was no Christine? She's had more hits than Lindsey and was in the band longer prior to her departure.
What's the difference? Is it different because she retired not got sacked? Or is it different because she wasn't replaced?
If they didn't replace Lindsey and just toured as a foursome with a fill in guitarist and didn't sing Lindsey songs, would you be less angry?

Because Christine made the choice not to participate. She had a CHOICE. In fact the band were begging her not to go. She wasn't stabbed in the back. Rewarding the money grubbers for their behavior wasn't an issue then. It is now.

secret love 05-05-2018 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1226805)
Because Christine made the choice not to participate. She had a CHOICE. In fact the band were begging her not to go. She wasn't stabbed in the back. Rewarding the money grubbers for their behavior wasn't an issue then. It is now.

Don't be ridiculous. Lindsey had a choice too. If he chose to tour October this year he could have done so. If Lindsey was ready and willing, no way would he have been replaced. Lindsey was always the band's first choice and still always will be. If he changes his mind, you can bet your bottom dollar he will be back on the next tour and Mike and Neil will be given the boot.

wondergirl9847 05-05-2018 06:48 PM

Oy.
 
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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1226802)
What's the difference? Is it different because she retired not got sacked? Or is it different because she wasn't replaced?
If they didn't replace Lindsey and just toured as a foursome with a fill in guitarist and didn't sing Lindsey songs, would you be less angry?

Christine left. She wasn't fired. BIG difference. Same with LB in 1987. He left on his own.

I wasn't a fan of FM back in 87 so I don't know how I would have felt about the Billy/Rick additions.

Yes, that is a totally different situation. Bringing in Tug on keyboards was fine for SYW. If they had gotten someone to do guitar solos and sing LB's GYOW and World Turning, I'd be cool....if LB left ON HIS OWN.

sasja 05-05-2018 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1226805)
Because Christine made the choice not to participate. She had a CHOICE. In fact the band were begging her not to go. She wasn't stabbed in the back. Rewarding the money grubbers for their behavior wasn't an issue then. It is now.

Just so! superbly put. Case and point and there you have it.

elle 05-05-2018 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1226808)
Don't be ridiculous. Lindsey had a choice too. If he chose to tour October this year he could have done so. If Lindsey was ready and willing, no way would he have been replaced.

you should go read some of the threads here. and watch that video of Lindsey refuting band's lies.

Hawkeye 05-05-2018 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1226808)
Don't be ridiculous. Lindsey had a choice too. If he chose to tour October this year he could have done so. If Lindsey was ready and willing, no way would he have been replaced. Lindsey was always the band's first choice and still always will be. If he changes his mind, you can bet your bottom dollar he will be back on the next tour and Mike and Neil will be given the boot.


Agreed and I foresee the concert opener of that tour to be just stevie and Lindsey singing Kumbaya. Mick playing light bangos in between stevie and Lindsey

elle 05-05-2018 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wondergirl9847 (Post 1226809)
Christine left. She wasn't fired. BIG difference. Same with LB in 1987. He left on his own.

I wasn't a fan of FM back in 87 so I don't know how I would have felt about the Billy/Rick additions.

Yes, that is a totally different situation. Bringing in Tug on keyboards was fine for SYW. If they had gotten someone to do guitar solos and sing LB's GYOW and World Turning, I'd be cool....if LB left ON HIS OWN.

i know re your OY. lather. rinse. repeat.

you'd think fans would actually know better to check first. but no.

secret love 05-05-2018 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sasja (Post 1226810)
Just so! superbly put. Case and point and there you have it.

I repeat, Lindsey also had a choice. Those who think he was fired for no reason are living in fantasy land. If Lindsey had got on board with the band's touring schedule, and not tried to squeeze in solo shows in between the band's tour, then they would not have fired him. Do you honestly believe Christine and Stevie and Mick and John would choose Neil and Mike over Lindsey if Lindsey had been willing to tour where and when they wanted him? Give me a break!
Seeds we sow. Lindsey would know.

secret love 05-05-2018 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1226811)
you should go read some of the threads here. and watch that video of Lindsey refuting band's lies.

I have seen that video. I can barely hear or understand what he is saying. But apparently it is proof that he wanted to tour at the same time as everyone else. Apparently this was going to be possible with him doing a solo tour at the exact same time as the band tour.
Elle, do you seriously believe that Lindsey was ready, willing and available to tour when the band wanted him? If so what's the real reason he was fired? I look forward to the conspiracy theories!
I'm so glad I won't have to suffer through yet another tired rendition of I'm So Afraid this November! I'm watching the dance right now and taking a tea break for this never ending song.

elle 05-05-2018 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1226816)
I have seen that video. I can barely hear or understand what he is saying. But apparently it is proof that he wanted to tour at the same time as everyone else. Apparently this was going to be possible with him doing a solo tour at the exact same time as the band tour.
Elle, do you seriously believe that Lindsey was ready, willing and available to tour when the band wanted him? If so what's the real reason he was fired? I look forward to the conspiracy theories!

yes. and now we won't get that. :distress:

you can read thousands of threads of conspiracy theories around here. we don't need yet another one.


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