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kak125 08-29-2019 10:44 AM

Mick Fleetwood will be on The Today Show from Australia tomorrow
 
https://twitter.com/TheTodayShow/sta...83948863279104

bombaysaffires 08-29-2019 12:34 PM

He's still the only one out doing press for this tour.... Stevie has remained hidden away since telling untruths on American tv before the tour, and I don't think I've seen or heard Chris being interviewed anywhere either. Just good ole Mick, If you believe your truth, why hide away?? :shrug:

Storms123 08-29-2019 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1253977)
He's still the only one out doing press for this tour.... Stevie has remained hidden away since telling untruths on American tv before the tour, and I don't think I've seen or heard Chris being interviewed anywhere either. Just good ole Mick, If you believe your truth, why hide away?? :shrug:

With the extent to which he stretches the truth and changes the narrative....I think his credibilty is shot....regardless of the forum with which he chooses to express his opinion. Stevie drove this chasm and now stepped away (post that "awesome" CBS interview), and Mick and the band let her. If you look at previous tours, the only person who has never really done press was John. Mick, Stevie and Lindsey, and then Christine for OWTS were front and center. This should have been a banner year for FM as a band, and with Stevie getting RRHOF on top...wind at their backs. This is a shameful way for this band to go out. But Mick can keep spinning it. Maybe NF will actually hire him for CH. One can only hope.

bombaysaffires 08-30-2019 12:17 PM

I hope one of our Aussie members who caught his interview will post something to let us know what he said....or links to watch it. :eek:

kak125 08-30-2019 12:19 PM

I found this article but wish I could find the video.

They should have, could have, and kind of did break up a couple of times over the past 50 years.

Fleetwood Mac, the band that formed in London in the late 1960s and has been through dramas, divorces, affairs and rumours that have tested all involved, most recently the sacking of a key member from their most successful era, Lindsey Buckingham. He was spectacularly let loose and replaced by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers' Mike Campbell and Crowded House main man, Neil Finn.

I've had the pleasure of speaking to the band many times over the years and was anxious to get the lowdown on the latest line-up from at the helm of the band that bares his name, Mick Fleetwood.

It seems the majority of Mac fans the world over are giving the new line-up the thumbs up. It's certainly been a rocky road over the past 50 years, with 18 members passing through the ranks, coming and going for one reason or another.

"There's been some pain involved, you know, getting to where we are and still are. You become aware of all of that and you become very aware of it that people are still enjoying what we do and, as my father would say, that it's all been worth a damn."

"For my conscience, that's a good thing to remember," Fleetwood laughed.

His father's advice has certainly helped Mick calm the waters and fuel the fires to keep his beloved band afloat even in difficult times, even when faced with the prospect of replacing musical director Lindsey Buckingham.

Fleetwood said the conversation, while difficult, was one that simply had to happen. "None of us were happy."

"His talent is a given, as you're well aware, on stage. You can't continue doing something if you're really not happy about what's going on. And that's how we leave it, with the integrity for both Lindsey and ourselves," Fleetwood said.

With goodbye to Lindsay, it was hello to Mike Campbell and Neil Finn. There was so many love and respect between the band members, it really is beautiful to see such harmony on stage.

"Not the irony but the lovely part of that was all around his talent. The ladies, Stevie, Christine, they're the singers, so there were some ideas they will remain nameless. I have to say that in the back of my mind was always this lovely gentleman known as Neil Finn."

According to Fleetwood, Stevie "insisted" the band do a Split Endz song 'I Got You' and Crowded House's signature song 'Don't Dream It's Over.'

But Fleetwood observed they were spoiled for choice. "The original list of what we were doing, including songs from Tom and including more songs - it would be like a Bruce Springsteen concert, five years in the making!"

I told Fleetwood I was there last night with my 24-year-old son, who wasn't the youngest guy in the room and I certainly wasn't the oldest. So what is it about this music that makes it transcend generations?

"I think it's a fascination with looking at something that for sure has survived. But there's a humour about everything that we're doing. And a reaching out for something that is, as I said before, worth a damn.

"The audiences have been great all over the world. And we're grateful."

Fleetwood Mac finished their Sydney shows last night and are now heading to Melbourne for shows at Rod Laver Arena. There are still some tickets available through Ticketek.

https://9now.nine.com.au/today/fleet...0-4f147b6e2f04

kak125 08-30-2019 12:21 PM

Here it is - sorry i tried to embed but it's not working

https://twitter.com/TheTodayShow/sta...96140451680256

lovethemac1 08-30-2019 01:41 PM

Here's my take away from the interview:

1. The interviewer should have just bowed to Mick at the beginning, middle and end, then kissed his feet.........he was soooo sugary sweet and gushing. Clearly he wasn't the person to ask some difficult questions, not that he would have been allowed to.

2. I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND the comment that "we weren't happy." Everyone but Stevie was. So either Mick was lying before when he constantly claimed what a family they were and how they loved each other, or he's lying now about not being happy. Either way, BIG F***ING LIAR MICK.

3."That's how we leave it with both integrity for Lindsay and us..." WTF????? They slammed Lindsay claiming no one in the band likes him, they lie about his solo tour planning, they ghost him and treat him like garbage, the don't contact him after his heart attack. They've lost their integrity to many FM fans, like it or not.

4. Christine was part of the planning to get Neil Finn?????????? I thought she didn't know about any of this until it was done, and the time line shows that they had the replacements ready to go almost immediately. Again, BIG F***ING LIAR MICK.

That's all for now................

bombaysaffires 08-30-2019 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lovethemac1 (Post 1253983)
Here's my take away from the interview:

1. The interviewer should have just bowed to Mick at the beginning, middle and end, then kissed his feet.........he was soooo sugary sweet and gushing. Clearly he wasn't the person to ask some difficult questions, not that he would have been allowed to.

2. I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND the comment that "we weren't happy." Everyone but Stevie was. So either Mick was lying before when he constantly claimed what a family they were and how they loved each other, or he's lying now about not being happy. Either way, BIG F***ING LIAR MICK.

3."That's how we leave it with both integrity for Lindsay and us..." WTF????? They slammed Lindsay claiming no one in the band likes him, they lie about his solo tour planning, they ghost him and treat him like garbage, the don't contact him after his heart attack. They've lost their integrity to many FM fans, like it or not.

4. Christine was part of the planning to get Neil Finn?????????? I thought she didn't know about any of this until it was done, and the time line shows that they had the replacements ready to go almost immediately. Again, BIG F***ING LIAR MICK.

That's all for now................


I also love the line about how Lindsey's talent ONSTAGE is not in dispute. Uh... what about his talent in the studio? You know, making you all those critically acclaimed albums and hit singles??

bombaysaffires 08-30-2019 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kak125 (Post 1253982)
Here it is - sorry i tried to embed but it's not working

https://twitter.com/TheTodayShow/sta...96140451680256

thanks for posting the link!

Stevie sounds awful, and on The Chain it appears she has been coaching Neil to be more like LB, in his delivery of the lines and the whole turning to look at her in the same way LB did. Gross.

When you make your career about your relationship with someone, and all your songs are about them, and people come to see you sing with that person, and then they are gone, you can NOT recreate that dynamic with someone new whom you just met and with whom you've never worked before.

Yet she seems to determined to make it so. Speaks to her total lack of imagination and creativity. Can't you find ways to do those songs that aren't about the personal relationship but just about the quality of the song? Apparently not. It just reveals the whole thing for the giant pantomime that it is and has been forever. If that's the bit Lindsey was unhappy with, I have to side with him on this, even if he was an a-hole behind the scenes in fighting against the whole charade. At least he had integrity.

sue 08-30-2019 04:24 PM

What I donÂ’t get...Buckingham Mcvie release their album of that name in June 2017....so must have been happy during that time, Mick and John are on that album so theyÂ’re presumably happy to perform during 2017 with Lindsey.
Less than a year later, January 2018, Lindsey is sacked.

Fleetwood gives the reason (well at least todayÂ’s reason)...that no one was happy.
This is a load of b*ll*cks

Christine at least must have been happy she toured with Lindsey upto July 2017.
So WTF happened between August 2017 and December 2107....
.......Stevie gave Mick the Ultimatum, me or him.....
NOT , well we were all unhappy, and it couldnÂ’t continue load of rubbish.

cbBen 08-30-2019 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kak125 (Post 1253982)
Here it is - sorry i tried to embed but it's not working

https://twitter.com/TheTodayShow/sta...96140451680256

Is this the whole segment?

jwd 08-30-2019 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kak125 (Post 1253982)
Here it is - sorry i tried to embed but it's not working

https://twitter.com/TheTodayShow/sta...96140451680256


Mick Fleetwood doesn't know what integrity means! He's a douchebag! I've lost all respect for the remaining members of this band. I wonder if Stevie is sucking Mick's dick again? Licking his wooden balls?! They are truly a disgusting lot. Stay far away Lindsey! Never Go Back Again! I'll continue to support LB, but the other ones can **** off!

cbBen 08-30-2019 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1253986)
What I donÂ’t get...Buckingham Mcvie release their album of that name in June 2017....so must have been happy during that time, Mick and John are on that album so theyÂ’re presumably happy to perform during 2017 with Lindsey.
Less than a year later, January 2018, Lindsey is sacked.

Basic tracks were recorded in 2014.

jwd 08-30-2019 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cbBen (Post 1253989)
Basic tracks were recorded in 2014.

Christine said in an interview from this year that she really loves Lindsey. I guess her love for Stevie, fame, and fortune was bigger.

ricohv 08-31-2019 01:31 AM

Every time I see a clip of Stevie singing GYPSY recently with all that weird hand jive & the "hey hey baby" I. JUST. CRINGE. :sorry: Uggh!

sue 08-31-2019 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cbBen (Post 1253989)
Basic tracks were recorded in 2014.

Oh right, thanks..
nevertheless all seemed okey dokey during summer of 2017.

jmn3 08-31-2019 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ricohv (Post 1254000)
Every time I see a clip of Stevie singing GYPSY recently with all that weird hand jive & the "hey hey baby" I. JUST. CRINGE. :sorry: Uggh!

I feel she was able to get Gypsy right once...and that was The Dance. Ever since then, it's been a downward slide toward "hey hey baby." And Mike playing that piano along with her hand thing that you mention just adds to the cringe level.

The Chain 08-31-2019 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1254007)
I feel she was able to get Gypsy right once...and that was The Dance.

I've always felt the same way, it really is a great version. She nails the vocal, Christine's keys are on point and Lindsey actually plays the hook, unlike the half-azzed interpretation on the Mirage tour.. what were they thinking? The way they played it in '82 didn't do the song justice at all, just.. sloppy, lazy. IMO anyway.

Okay, maybe she got it right twice.. that acoustic version w Lindsey from the AZ Heart Benefit thing remains one of my favorite bootleg recordings to this day.

jmn3 08-31-2019 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Chain (Post 1254011)
I've always felt the same way, it really is a great version. She nails the vocal, Christine's keys are on point and Lindsey actually plays the hook, unlike the half-azzed interpretation on the Mirage tour.. what were they thinking? The way they played it in '82 didn't do the song justice at all, just.. sloppy, lazy. IMO anyway.

Okay, maybe she got it right twice.. that acoustic version w Lindsey from the AZ Heart Benefit thing remains one of my favorite bootleg recordings to this day.

Oh yes, you are right - that acoustic version from 2000 was amazing. And while I think the Mirage Tour version has some charm, they really didn't play it well. Certainly a case where extra musicians on stage helps.

bombaysaffires 08-31-2019 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1253986)
What I donÂ’t get...Buckingham Mcvie release their album of that name in June 2017....so must have been happy during that time, Mick and John are on that album so theyÂ’re presumably happy to perform during 2017 with Lindsey.
Less than a year later, January 2018, Lindsey is sacked.

Fleetwood gives the reason (well at least todayÂ’s reason)...that no one was happy.
This is a load of b*ll*cks

Christine at least must have been happy she toured with Lindsey upto July 2017.
So WTF happened between August 2017 and December 2107....
.......Stevie gave Mick the Ultimatum, me or him.....
NOT , well we were all unhappy, and it couldnÂ’t continue load of rubbish.


watch the video of them all (4 of them) in the studio together....hugs and kisses all around, at one point even LB and Mick are hugging and LB says "Love you man" and Mick is concurring "mmm hmmmm"

Hugs and kisses LB and Chris.

Love all around.

Except the one person not happy, who was not there.

jwd 09-01-2019 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1254018)
watch the video of them all (4 of them) in the studio together....hugs and kisses all around, at one point even LB and Mick are hugging and LB says "Love you man" and Mick is concurring "mmm hmmmm"

Hugs and kisses LB and Chris.

Love all around.

Except the one person not happy, who was not there.

I'm sick of the lies and political correctness. Just lay it out there. Stevie's ego blew up and she couldn't stand being shown up by Lindsey and Christine in the studio and she didn't want Lindsey to give anyone else attention but her. She was living the tragic Lindsey/Stevie saga still. Her bubble finally got burst and she flipped. Sorry Lindsey, you're out. SUCKS! Stevie won cause she's the touring cash cow and the other three followed. No integrity.

jbrownsjr 09-03-2019 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ricohv (Post 1254000)
Every time I see a clip of Stevie singing GYPSY recently with all that weird hand jive & the "hey hey baby" I. JUST. CRINGE. :sorry: Uggh!

I saw it live and I honestly had to put my hands over my ears. And a few people around me were doing the same. It was absolutely horrible.

Then she sang GDW and was wonderful. So I'm not sure what she's doing. But, Gypsy is atrocious.

jbrownsjr 09-03-2019 01:52 PM

WE were not happy = $$$$$tevie was not happy.

Mick has to do what $he says.
Christine coming back from a long long absence = zero say
John just doesn't give as ****. And giving he and Christine $$ has always worked.

aleuzzi 09-03-2019 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ricohv (Post 1254000)
Every time I see a clip of Stevie singing GYPSY recently with all that weird hand jive & the "hey hey baby" I. JUST. CRINGE. :sorry: Uggh!

Agreed. It’s gross.

michelej1 09-03-2019 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1254064)
WE were not happy = $$$$$tevie was not happy.

Mick has to do what $he says.
Christine coming back from a long long absence = zero say
John just doesn't give as ****. And giving he and Christine $$ has always worked.

When have they ever been happy? They were all miserable during Rumours and Tusk. The studio and tours were Fight Club Extraordinaire, but no one even thought of kicking Lindsey out then because they had too much to lose if they did.

Peace and happiness, my foot.

bombaysaffires 09-03-2019 06:38 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxVsqngf9yE&t=791s

Where's the unhappiness here??

starting around 5:07.... see how unhappy Mick is. Oh, wait, that was before Stevie refused to participate, which meant he (and John) declined to tour because Queen Bee would be mad and not every tour with them again.

And then even that wasn't enough for her.

jbrownsjr 09-03-2019 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1254070)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxVsqngf9yE&t=791s

Where's the unhappiness here??

starting around 5:07.... see how unhappy Mick is. Oh, wait, that was before Stevie refused to participate, which meant he (and John) declined to tour because Queen Bee would be mad and not every tour with them again.

And then even that wasn't enough for her.

I remember how happy I was watching that. Seeing LB so happy to have her back. Watching this now hurts me.

FuzzyPlum 09-04-2019 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1254070)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxVsqngf9yE&t=791s

Where's the unhappiness here??

starting around 5:07.... see how unhappy Mick is. Oh, wait, that was before Stevie refused to participate, which meant he (and John) declined to tour because Queen Bee would be mad and not every tour with them again.

And then even that wasn't enough for her.

This reminder makes me want to cry. I remember how ecstatic I was when seeing this for the first time- all the anticipation of what could become :(
sigh

jbrownsjr 09-04-2019 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1254078)
This reminder makes me want to cry. I remember how ecstatic I was when seeing this for the first time- all the anticipation of what could become :(
sigh

I saw this and thought: There's no way $tevie can stop them from making music. They look so happy making music and they are happy!!!

Then............... explosion...

"He wouldn't tour.... errrrrrrrrr we just wanted to be happy... errrrrrrr... we thought we were breaking up as a band.... errrrrrrrrrr yeah happy.. I needed to be happy... "

jmn3 09-04-2019 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1254080)
I saw this and thought: There's no way $tevie can stop them from making music. They look so happy making music and they are happy!!!

Then............... explosion...

"He wouldn't tour.... errrrrrrrrr we just wanted to be happy... errrrrrrr... we thought we were breaking up as a band.... errrrrrrrrrr yeah happy.. I needed to be happy... "

Don't forget the key to the whole thing...firing Lindsey so someone could dance around their apartment for a decade.

My God these people are just awful.

stevierocks87 09-04-2019 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ricohv (Post 1254000)
Every time I see a clip of Stevie singing GYPSY recently with all that weird hand jive & the "hey hey baby" I. JUST. CRINGE. :sorry: Uggh!

Same. Esp compared with the Dance version which is just sublime.

jbrownsjr 09-11-2019 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1254083)
Don't forget the key to the whole thing...firing Lindsey so someone could dance around their apartment for a decade.

My God these people are just awful.

Tell me LIES tell a lot of BIG LITTLE LIES>>>>>> TELL ME TELL ME LIES!

button-lip 09-11-2019 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1254067)
When have they ever been happy? They were all miserable during Rumours and Tusk. The studio and tours were Fight Club Extraordinaire, but no one even thought of kicking Lindsey out then because they had too much to lose if they did.

Peace and happiness, my foot.

They had too much money to lose if they fired him back in the 70s and 80s, that's for sure. Now that they don't want to get creative anymore, it was the perfect time to kick him out. :distress::distress:

As painfully as it is to admit it, I think they never truly cared for him. :distress::distress:

lovethemac1 09-11-2019 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by button-lip (Post 1254164)
They had too much money to lose if they fired him back in the 70s and 80s, that's for sure. Now that they don't want to get creative anymore, it was the perfect time to kick him out. :distress::distress:

As painfully as it is to admit it, I think they never truly cared for him. :distress::distress:

Well, one of them for sure doesn't want to be creative, probably because she can't create anymore.
I think the others, given the chance would be happy to create, as we saw with BM.
And I agree with you, it is looking like they never truly cared about Lindsey, and I agree that this feels painful inside my gut.

jbrownsjr 09-11-2019 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lovethemac1 (Post 1254166)
Well, one of them for sure doesn't want to be creative, probably because she can't create anymore.
I think the others, given the chance would be happy to create, as we saw with BM.
And I agree with you, it is looking like they never truly cared about Lindsey, and I agree that this feels painful inside my gut.

Maybe we're lost without a cost
Of stories that we've told

DeepBlueDee 10-24-2019 09:11 AM

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"For my conscience, that's a good thing to remember," Fleetwood laughed.
For his CONSCIENCE ??? :eek: :laugh:

Oh, my- if I were the interviewer I would have taken a LARGE step back after he said that, so that when the hole opened up in the ground and Mr. Fleetwood got sucked down it at the speed of light in his much-deserved handbasket :wavey:, the suction didn't take me with it. :lol:

What a shameless huckster. :distress:

David 10-25-2019 04:17 PM

When you watch the maturity and carefree creativity of the Buckingham McVie studio sessions, all you can do is to pretend that the whole band disappeared in the Bermuda Triangle soon after and that was that for Fleetwood Mac.

Jondalar 10-28-2019 12:41 AM

I can’t stand Mick Fleetwood. The dynamics of the band are screwed up. The least talented people control Fleetwood Mac.

jbrownsjr 10-28-2019 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1254718)
I can’t stand Mick Fleetwood. The dynamics of the band are screwed up. The least talented people control Fleetwood Mac.

Haha! $tevie and Mick :nod:

BLY 10-28-2019 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1254707)
When you watch the maturity and carefree creativity of the Buckingham McVie studio sessions, all you can do is to pretend that the whole band disappeared in the Bermuda Triangle soon after and that was that for Fleetwood Mac.


To this day I wish that album was released under the Fleetwood Mac banner. The making of the album behind the scenes with four of them was classic. They should have just said Stevie decided to sit this one out.


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