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BigAl84 04-30-2019 11:23 AM

Next Year
 
Thought I would pass this along, for what it's worth. This is just somebody else's account of what they heard on the radio from Mike Campbell.

"Dirty Knobs update: Get excited people. On my way to work this morning, I heard a new message from Mike Campbell on Tom Petty Radio. He said the Dirty Knobs album, the bulk of which was recorded in a quick two-week session a year ago, is nearly complete. He mentioned that he is working with a voice coach to become more confident with his vocals, and he plans to finish off the record with the band and co-producer George Drakoulias in the next month or so. He is contemplating how to begin rollout of the material this fall after the FM tour wraps up. A CD release will follow before the end of the year, and Mike said next year is entirely reserved for a Dirty Knobs tour!"

Not sure how that affects the possibility of new material from the new band.

aleuzzi 04-30-2019 11:48 AM

In other words: "I made some good money on the Mac tour to fund my real passion."

Meanwhile, the band that fired its chief creative instigator will spend the year buying things.

lovethemac1 04-30-2019 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1252414)
In other words: "I made some good money on the Mac tour to fund my real passion."

Meanwhile, the band that fired its chief creative instigator will spend the year buying things.

Yep and yep.

Feather Blade 04-30-2019 12:38 PM

Devoting an entire year for touring with a project the size of the Dirty Knobs seems like a long time.

secondhandchain 04-30-2019 02:36 PM

If you think this band is recording ANY new music you are seriously fooled. They are together for a cash grab and that's IT. Stevie does not have any more gas in the tank. DONE

BigAl84 04-30-2019 02:48 PM

An entire year for a rinse and repeat tour sure feels like a long time too. To each their own.

I'm glad Mike will have some time to devote to his other projects, I just hope it doesn't get him fired too LMAO....

Storms123 04-30-2019 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1252414)
In other words: "I made some good money on the Mac tour to fund my real passion."

Meanwhile, the band that fired its chief creative instigator will spend the year buying things.

Exactly! So sad really. But good for Mike to still have the creative outlet most musicians of his caliber still aspire too. Good for him!

button-lip 04-30-2019 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1252414)
In other words: "I made some good money on the Mac tour to fund my real passion."

Meanwhile, the band that fired its chief creative instigator will spend the year buying things.

Same goes to Neil Finn. And it's not like the rest of the band didn't know that. It was pure business on both sides. But we're "happier than ever". :rolleyes:

They all screwed up Lindsey big time.

bombaysaffires 04-30-2019 05:12 PM

I hope he didn't take voice coach recommendations from the leader of his new band......

secondhandchain 04-30-2019 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1252423)
I hope he didn't take voice coach recommendations from the leader of his new band......

Stevie on vocal technique "Mike it's easy, just sing your songs within 2 notes of each other and you'll sound great!" "And if you are writing a song do the same and they will be very easy to sing!"

lovethemac1 04-30-2019 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1252423)
I hope he didn't take voice coach recommendations from the leader of his new band......

Hahahahahahahaha, awesome!! Love it!

sleepless child 05-01-2019 07:50 AM

There will never be any new Fleetwood Mac music. All Stevie wants is a touring band.

I guess at this stage all they care about is the money and that's why they chose team Stevie.

sue 05-01-2019 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepless child (Post 1252428)
There will never be any new Fleetwood Mac music. All Stevie wants is a touring band.

I guess at this stage all they care about is the money and that's why they chose team Stevie.


Well Stevie is unable to write any new music..
And without their artistic powerhouse, (Lindsey) I doubt that the other three are capable either.
(I wasn’t counting Neil or Mike in the equation)

So yes, all they are is an oldies touring band.
Shame big big shame.

Storms123 05-01-2019 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1252429)
Well Stevie is unable to write any new music..
And without their artistic powerhouse, (Lindsey) I doubt that the other three are capable either.
(I wasn’t counting Neil or Mike in the equation)

So yes, all they are is an oldies touring band.
Shame big big shame.

Mick Fleetwood’s “Allstar” jamboree

sue 05-01-2019 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1252430)
Mick Fleetwood’s “Allstar” jamboree

Nearly dropped my toad in the hole, then, laughing

Storms123 05-01-2019 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1252414)
In other words: "I made some good money on the Mac tour to fund my real passion."

Meanwhile, the band that fired its chief creative instigator will spend the year buying things.

I’ve been wondering, maybe it’s out there somewhere and I missed it, but do you think the 4 remaining of the Rumours 5 paid out the settlement with Lindsey, or do you think the 6 of them collectively took less to pay him?

secondhandchain 05-02-2019 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1252435)
I’ve been wondering, maybe it’s out there somewhere and I missed it, but do you think the 4 remaining of the Rumours 5 paid out the settlement with Lindsey, or do you think the 6 of them collectively took less to pay him?

To find the answer to that, follow the $$$ in front of Mick and Stevie's nose. EVERYONE.PAID. Mick is probably the worst of them...it's all about $$$.

aleuzzi 05-02-2019 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1252435)
I’ve been wondering, maybe it’s out there somewhere and I missed it, but do you think the 4 remaining of the Rumours 5 paid out the settlement with Lindsey, or do you think the 6 of them collectively took less to pay him?

No idea. But whatever they paid him likely only took a chunk out of a still-sizeable chunk of money all six of them have made. Otherwise, they wouldn't have settled so quickly.

hopingtofly 05-02-2019 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1252441)
No idea. But whatever they paid him likely only took a chunk out of a still-sizeable chunk of money all six of them have made. Otherwise, they wouldn't have settled so quickly.

Doubt they had much choice but to settle. Whatever the amount, Lindsey got what he felt was his rightful share. Getting paid millions for NOT touring? Sweet.

Nicks Fan 05-02-2019 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1252430)
Mick Fleetwood’s “Allstar” jamboree

Yep coming soon to a county fair near you.

vivfox 05-03-2019 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicks Fan (Post 1252444)
Yep coming soon to a county fair near you.

In yer dreams buddy. As long as your fave Gypsy is on that stage, you will be continually irritated knowing they are performing at your local pro basketball arena with a telephone name.

aleuzzi 05-03-2019 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hopingtofly (Post 1252442)
Doubt they had much choice but to settle. Whatever the amount, Lindsey got what he felt was his rightful share. Getting paid millions for NOT touring? Sweet.

They would have had to settle, yes--but the process would have been likely much slower and painful if whatever Lindsey received prevented them from making handsome profits.

Murrow 05-04-2019 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1252418)
If you think this band is recording ANY new music you are seriously fooled. They are together for a cash grab and that's IT. Stevie does not have any more gas in the tank. DONE

All the more reason why she should have just quit the kitchen while she couldn't stand the heat. Her and Mick are really showing their true colours now.

button-lip 05-04-2019 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1252435)
I’ve been wondering, maybe it’s out there somewhere and I missed it, but do you think the 4 remaining of the Rumours 5 paid out the settlement with Lindsey, or do you think the 6 of them collectively took less to pay him?

I think the four a$$holes paid out the settlement. I don't think their two contracted players take any decisions regarding the band. In fact these two made good money for just a couple of concerts and a half FM tour. That's what I call "sweet". :nod::nod:

FuzzyPlum 05-05-2019 04:37 PM

I'd be so annoyed if Lindsey ever went back to a Stevie-involved Fleetwood Mac. Indeed, this would never happen.

However, I can envisage Stevie breaking from FM after this tour. Mike Campbell has his own thing to do. I think Neil Finn is just waiting to get out and do his own this as soon as possible. Thus, I can see Fleetwood Mac disbanding after this tour.

Mick will be sat idol twiddling his thumbs.
If Mick decides he cant wait 2 or 3 years for Stevie to come back to FM I can envisage him reaching out and apologising to Lindsey. I can see Mick seeking a Mick/John/Christine/Lindsey incarnation of the band (Mick:I cant make the same bucks as I can with Stevie, but it would still represent a decent income).

If this happens I'll feel bittersweet...
a) I'd be disappointed in Lindsey if he reconciled.
b) I'd be overwhelmingly happy if Lindsey reconciled.

Storms123 05-05-2019 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1252484)
I'd be so annoyed if Lindsey ever went back to a Stevie-involved Fleetwood Mac. Indeed, this would never happen.

However, I can envisage Stevie breaking from FM after this tour. Mike Campbell has his own thing to do. I think Neil Finn is just waiting to get out and do his own this as soon as possible. Thus, I can see Fleetwood Mac disbanding after this tour.

Mick will be sat idol twiddling his thumbs.
If Mick decides he cant wait 2 or 3 years for Stevie to come back to FM I can envisage him reaching out and apologising to Lindsey. I can see Mick seeking a Mick/John/Christine/Lindsey incarnation of the band (Mick:I cant make the same bucks as I can with Stevie, but it would still represent a decent income).

If this happens I'll feel bittersweet...
a) I'd be disappointed in Lindsey if he reconciled.
b) I'd be overwhelmingly happy if Lindsey reconciled.

Mick needs people who will help him stay relevant. And for as relevant as Stevie makes herself, she's not making new music so she can't "help" him for long. He needs Christine and John, and they need Lindsey, because as many have said, Neil and Mike have priorities, and FM isn't one of them.

button-lip 05-05-2019 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1252484)
I'd be so annoyed if Lindsey ever went back to a Stevie-involved Fleetwood Mac. Indeed, this would never happen.

However, I can envisage Stevie breaking from FM after this tour. Mike Campbell has his own thing to do. I think Neil Finn is just waiting to get out and do his own this as soon as possible. Thus, I can see Fleetwood Mac disbanding after this tour.

Mick will be sat idol twiddling his thumbs.
If Mick decides he cant wait 2 or 3 years for Stevie to come back to FM I can envisage him reaching out and apologising to Lindsey. I can see Mick seeking a Mick/John/Christine/Lindsey incarnation of the band (Mick:I cant make the same bucks as I can with Stevie, but it would still represent a decent income).

If this happens I'll feel bittersweet...
a) I'd be disappointed in Lindsey if he reconciled.
b) I'd be overwhelmingly happy if Lindsey reconciled.


I doubt they will ask Lindsey to rejoin. Not gonna happen.

He probably will be back if they ask him to. Maybe that changed after his heart surgery. Hard to tell since no one is talking.

Stevie won't leave FM. Ever. She swore she won't be the one to break up the band. And she kept her promise. She chose to fire Lindsey instead.

Mick worships the ground Stevie walks on. He won't betray her with Lindsey. None of them will betray her with Lindsey. They're a united front now.

Dragon 05-06-2019 10:14 AM

Fleetwood Mac needs to take time off and make and execute decisions to remain relevant. Mike Campbell has the Dirty Knobs and possibly the Heartbreakers. Neil Finn has a solo career and possibly Crowded House.

ryan4136 05-06-2019 12:45 PM

This will be the last official tour for the band. They won't announce it, but they'll take a break, and father time will finally catch up. We might see them play a show somewhere, but this will be it.

If they do what's left in 2019, and take 2020 away, by spring of 2021 look at what we have here....
Mick will be almost 74,
John will be 75
Stevie will be turning 73,
And Chris will be closing in on...78!!!

While we might see a 1 off, for a special occasion this is over soon folks.

michelej1 05-07-2019 09:06 PM

Chris 78. That is mind blowing.

TrueFaith77 05-08-2019 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragon (Post 1252494)
Fleetwood Mac needs to take time off and make and execute decisions to remain relevant. Mike Campbell has the Dirty Knobs and possibly the Heartbreakers. Neil Finn has a solo career and possibly Crowded House.

I suspect there is a reason Mick didn't pick artists who would become full-time Mac members. All this "new" band talk is a lie.

It's the final cashgrab.

Glad Lindsey got some of his.

I'm not sorry I missed it (I would never pay to hear "Don't Dream It's Over--EVER), but I am truly sorry I didn't see the previous two tours because like a whiny baby I wanted a new album. But I saw Unleashed, which was great, and I saw BuckVie, which was lovely.

Here's hoping Lindsey gets better so I can still see one of them on tour in the future.

secret love 05-15-2019 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 1252541)
I suspect there is a reason Mick didn't pick artists who would become full-time Mac members. All this "new" band talk is a lie.

It's the final cashgrab.

Glad Lindsey got some of his.

I'm not sorry I missed it (I would never pay to hear "Don't Dream It's Over--EVER), but I am truly sorry I didn't see the previous two tours because like a whiny baby I wanted a new album. But I saw Unleashed, which was great, and I saw BuckVie, which was lovely.

Here's hoping Lindsey gets better so I can still see one of them on tour in the future.

They are full-time Mac members. Already. And they were chosen by the whole quartet, not just by Mick. Billy Burnette also auditioned but was not selected.
I disagree about it being the final cash grab, but if it is the final cash grab, how can Lindsey claim to be morally superior when he sued to get... you guessed it... his final cash grab?
Don't Dream It's Over is a beautiful song, regardless of whether it is performed by Crowded House or Fleetwood Mac.
I have only seen Fleetwood Mac once, in Sydney on the On With the Show tour. They were fantastic. I'd count yourself very lucky to have seen BuckVie. They didn't come to Australia, so I missed out.

Feather Blade 05-15-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1252655)
They are full-time Mac members. Already. And they were chosen by the whole quartet, not just by Mick. Billy Burnette also auditioned but was not selected.
I disagree about it being the final cash grab, but if it is the final cash grab, how can Lindsey claim to be morally superior when he sued to get... you guessed it... his final cash grab?
Don't Dream It's Over is a beautiful song, regardless of whether it is performed by Crowded House or Fleetwood Mac.
I have only seen Fleetwood Mac once, in Sydney on the On With the Show tour. They were fantastic. I'd count yourself very lucky to have seen BuckVie. They didn't come to Australia, so I missed out.

I remember seeing how much you hoped that they would make it down to Australia. Were you able to get tickets to any of the shows?

cactusjack 05-26-2019 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 1252541)
I suspect there is a reason Mick didn't pick artists who would become full-time Mac members. All this "new" band talk is a lie.

It's the final cashgrab.

Glad Lindsey got some of his.

I'm not sorry I missed it (I would never pay to hear "Don't Dream It's Over--EVER), but I am truly sorry I didn't see the previous two tours because like a whiny baby I wanted a new album. But I saw Unleashed, which was great, and I saw BuckVie, which was lovely.

Here's hoping Lindsey gets better so I can still see one of them on tour in the future.

so you've missed 3 tours of a rapidly aging band with a finite life left, just because they didn't do everything EXACTLY as you wanted? slow clap...

bombaysaffires 05-26-2019 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1252655)
They are full-time Mac members. Already. And they were chosen by the whole quartet, not just by Mick. Billy Burnette also auditioned but was not selected.
I disagree about it being the final cash grab, but if it is the final cash grab, how can Lindsey claim to be morally superior when he sued to get... you guessed it... his final cash grab?
Don't Dream It's Over is a beautiful song, regardless of whether it is performed by Crowded House or Fleetwood Mac.
I have only seen Fleetwood Mac once, in Sydney on the On With the Show tour. They were fantastic. I'd count yourself very lucky to have seen BuckVie. They didn't come to Australia, so I missed out.

Lindsey sued to make a point. When someone screws you over, you don't just lie down and take it. He chose to hit them where it matters to them the most.

secret love 05-26-2019 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Feather Blade (Post 1252661)
I remember seeing how much you hoped that they would make it down to Australia. Were you able to get tickets to any of the shows?

Maybe, there are some seats reserved by a website called Lane One which is linked to American Express but also has tickets available to non-cardholders.

I want to go to the first Sydney show. We shall see.

secret love 05-26-2019 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1252931)
Lindsey sued to make a point. When someone screws you over, you don't just lie down and take it. He chose to hit them where it matters to them the most.

How childish, to feel the need "to make a point" by suing and engaging lawyers and buckets of your own money. :distress:
I thought he was better than that, and not all about money or getting revenge, him suing to me just shows he is on the same level as Stevie and Mick.

jmn3 05-26-2019 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1252934)
How childish, to feel the need "to make a point" by suing and engaging lawyers and buckets of your own money. :distress:
I thought he was better than that, and not all about money or getting revenge, him suing to me just shows he is on the same level as Stevie and Mick.

It’s not childish at all. It’s a business, as so many have said. Mick chose Stevie over Lindsey because of business sense. This is what the narrative has been around here for a year plus. Lindsey clearly felt that the decision violated a contractual agreement that the band made to tour, including him. They settled to make it go away which indicates that they either felt he was right or that they didn’t have enough legally to disprove his assertions.

My God, the hypocrisy by so many around here (Lindsey is on the same level as Mick and Stevie....but Mick and Stevie just did what they did for the sake of the band) never ceases to amaze me.

lovethemac1 05-26-2019 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1252934)
How childish, to feel the need "to make a point" by suing and engaging lawyers and buckets of your own money. :distress:
I thought he was better than that, and not all about money or getting revenge, him suing to me just shows he is on the same level as Stevie and Mick.

You want to talk childish? Stevie still wins for the most childish behaviour of all.

secret love 05-28-2019 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1252935)
It’s not childish at all. It’s a business, as so many have said. Mick chose Stevie over Lindsey because of business sense. This is what the narrative has been around here for a year plus. Lindsey clearly felt that the decision violated a contractual agreement that the band made to tour, including him. They settled to make it go away which indicates that they either felt he was right or that they didn’t have enough legally to disprove his assertions.

My God, the hypocrisy by so many around here (Lindsey is on the same level as Mick and Stevie....but Mick and Stevie just did what they did for the sake of the band) never ceases to amaze me.

Don't verbal me. Don't misrepresent my position. No, they did not do it for the sake of the band. But no, they did not do it for the sake of the money, either. They would have made even more money if they stuck with Lindsey, don't you think?

Look at the setlist this time around. Blues band hits and rarities. Cover songs. Isn't it Midnight. Lindsey purportedly did not want to do blues songs. And a lot of fans including myself wanted to hear him sing the blues songs of Fleetwood Mac's founder.

The band changed to change the setlist and to stay relevant. Ok, no new music, and that for one is a monetary decision.


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