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dougl 02-22-2021 08:42 PM

Sugar Daddy
 
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From Cashbox review of Day on the Green #3

HomerMcvie 02-22-2021 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dougl (Post 1264849)
From Cashbox review of Day on the Green #3

Ho SH*T!!!! So they DID actually do Sugar Daddy at one point! I need video!!!!!

Netter75 02-22-2021 10:44 PM

I would pay big $$$ to have been at a show where they played Sugar Daddy! The White album tour is such a mystery.

Likewise for the live version of Crystal that was played many times on the tour (why is there NO bootlegs of this one?!)

David 02-22-2021 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1264856)
Ho SH*T!!!! So they DID actually do Sugar Daddy at one point! I need video!!!!!

I bet it’s a mistake. But maybe. No. 3 was August 1975 with Dave Mason, Frampton, and Robin Trower, wasn’t it? Or was this Green April/May 1976? That one had Frampton and Wright too. Fleetwood played with Gary Wright May 1977 for the third and final time.

HomerMcvie 02-22-2021 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1264863)
I bet it’s a mistake. But maybe. No. 3 was August 1975 with Dave Mason, Frampton, and Robin Trower, wasn’t it? Or was this Green April/May 1976? That one had Frampton and Wright too. Fleetwood played with Gary Wright May 1977 for the third and final time.

I'll bet it is too. The writer may have just copied some titles from the back of the album.

Although maybe they did it once and dropped it like they have other songs over the years.

dougl 02-22-2021 11:47 PM

The date was August 3, 1975 and the set according to setlist.fm:

Station Man

Monday Morning

Over My Head

Don't Let Me Down Again
(Buckingham Nicks cover)

Frozen Love
(Buckingham Nicks cover)

Say You Love Me

Oh Well

Jumping at Shadows
(Duster Bennett cover)

Sunny Side of Heaven

Rhiannon

Blue Letter

Why

Landslide

World Turning
(+ Drum solo)

I'm So Afraid

Encore:
Hypnotized

Who to believe? But if you add Sugar Daddy to that list sign me up!

Macfan4life 02-23-2021 06:12 AM

Sadly we will never know the true answer to this. It would not be that unusual for the band to try out different songs of their first album together. Maybe they did it once or twice and never bothered again. The While Album tour was unusual. It started before the White Album release and had various legs across the U.S. In August 1975, the White Album just hit the Billboard charts at #183. 13 months later it would hit #1 in September 1976. Sugar Daddy was the flip side on the Rhiannon single 45.
I am curious why Warner Brothers did not squeeze out and promote another single. Warm Ways tanked in the UK. Over My Head did fairly well and the last 2 singles were big hits at #11. Was Sugar Daddy thought of the 4th single? Total pipe dream and not true but its fun to think of the possibilities. Maybe we got to see cheap Mick in the early days. Maybe he feared Sugar Daddy would be a hit and because Waddy played guitar on the song, the band may be forced to pay him LOL :eek:

To quote Mr. Buckingham: "OMG Fleetwood Mac with hits!"

aleuzzi 02-25-2021 01:30 AM

Well, I always thought they should have made it a staple, at least until the end of the 70s. It’d have been a fun tune to play. It’s among my all-time favorite Mac tunes and I HATE when (apparently deaf or humorless) people take shots at it. It’s a GREAT song made even stronger by the vocal and inspired rhythm section.

And the lyrics are clever, ironic, witty. Only the most literal person couldn’t spot the wink...

jbrownsjr 02-25-2021 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1264939)
Well, I always thought they should have made it a staple, at least until the end of the 70s. It’d have been a fun tune to play. It’s among my all-time favorite Mac tunes and I HATE when (apparently deaf or humorless) people take shots at it. It’s a GREAT song made even stronger by the vocal and inspired rhythm section.

And the lyrics are clever, ironic, witty. Only the most literal person couldn’t spot the wink...

Thank you. Glad I didn't have to say it this time. ;)

michelej1 03-01-2021 01:45 AM

I hate this song. However, I very much like Ricky, so I do not think I fail to appreciate irony or humor in a diddy.

Also like Santa Baby well enough. Diamonds are a Girls Best Friend is fun, I don’t think I object to the sugar daddy concept or take it too literally. I think Christine played the sugar daddy to unworthy men more than she sought one.

I just hate the song.

aleuzzi 03-01-2021 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1265064)
I hate this song. However, I very much like Ricky, so I do not think I fail to appreciate irony or humor in a diddy.

Also like Santa Baby well enough. Diamonds are a Girls Best Friend is fun, I don’t think I object to the sugar daddy concept or take it too literally. I think Christine played the sugar daddy to unworthy men more than she sought one.

I just hate the song.

But why? I’m genuinely curious. What about this catchy pop-blues tune elicits hate from you?

jbrownsjr 03-01-2021 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1264863)
I bet it’s a mistake. But maybe. No. 3 was August 1975 with Dave Mason, Frampton, and Robin Trower, wasn’t it? Or was this Green April/May 1976? That one had Frampton and Wright too. Fleetwood played with Gary Wright May 1977 for the third and final time.

This makes me wonder if any other band has done SUGAR DADDY live.

HomerMcvie 03-01-2021 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1265068)
But why? I’m genuinely curious. What about this catchy pop-blues tune elicits hate from you?

The music is perfektion!!!

I'm curious too, as to Michele's reasoning. I think everyone I've ever heard say that they hate it, is all because of "I need a sugar daddy". That it's a plea of weakness?

I always mention my own "FM Greatest hits" discs. Think About Me always makes the cut, but so does Sugar Daddy(and World Turning - those are my two White album songs that make it onto every compilation).

jbrownsjr 03-01-2021 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1265072)
The music is perfektion!!!

I'm curious too, as to Michele's reasoning. I think everyone I've ever heard say that they hate it, is all because of "I need a sugar daddy". That it's a plea of weakness?

I always mention my own "FM Greatest hits" discs. Think About Me always makes the cut, but so does Sugar Daddy(and World Turning - those are my two White album songs that make it onto every compilation).

Agree, the music is perfection. But it's a different story for her. (for a change)
Hey, I need someone to pad my purse! car, whiskey, fur coats, etc.

I think it's a cool peak inside Christine's devilish ways. It's absolutely a genius tune, in my opinion. The early take has the amazing keyboard/organ work more prominent. I even like the vocal better on the early take.

HomerMcvie 03-01-2021 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1265073)

I think it's a cool peak inside Christine's devilish ways. It's absolutely a genius tune, in my opinion. The early take has the amazing keyboard/organ work more prominent. I even like the vocal better on the early take.

The piano/B3 combo is probably the best keyboard work to ever come out of FM. I've been working on it for a couple weeks. Honky tonk piano with my right hand, and playing organ with my left.

It IS a genius tune!!!


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