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secret love 01-06-2018 06:15 AM

Is Stevie still writing songs?
 
Hello all

This thread is to discuss Stevie's writing. Is Stevie Nicks still writing songs? I read on Fleetwood Mac News a while back that she had written a new song for Fleetwood Mac in memory of her mother called My Mother's Rings. Do we know if there is any truth in that?

If it's not true, as far as I can tell, Stevie hasn't written a new song since 2010, which is kind of sad.

mitzo 01-06-2018 09:59 AM

I wonder this too. If she is actually writing songs, it is odd because she will not record them. There is not sign and little hope of a new album from her. If there is anything I guarantee it will be 24KG2, which is a really long shot, or yet another retrospective/greatest hits thing. Plus she is not interested in recording with FM. No room in there for any new songs.

Sanne2 01-06-2018 10:27 AM

I think You Can't Fix This is the most recent thing she wrote?

mitzo 01-06-2018 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanne2 (Post 1219523)
I think You Can't Fix This is the most recent thing she wrote?

I think so. And wasn't that just lyrics to someone else's melody?

mitzo 01-06-2018 12:28 PM

On the last 2 albums IYD and 24KG we had little to nothing really new from Stevie. 24KG was all written long ago, with 2 tracks I Don't Care and Hard Advice from somewhere in the 90's, and one song from Vanessa Carlton. IYD was almost all lyrics to Dave Stewart or some else's melodies or versions of hidden oldies such as Annabel Lee and Secret Love. The only thing I can find there which is newer and fully crafted by Stevie is Soldier's Angel and the chorus of Moonlight! I think if she writes at all it is just journal entries in the form of fragments of possible lyrics.

sue 01-06-2018 03:52 PM

I don’t think Stevie writes songs these days....maybe bits of prose.

I also think that is the reason she did not wish to make a new Album
with Fleetwood Mac, she has no new material.

Sad, but that’s how it is.......unless, well, all she has to do is write with someone.

jbrownsjr 01-06-2018 04:43 PM

I agree Sue. I wanted Stevie on the last record so badly (after the last tour)..

I guess maybe she doesn't want to write new material. it happens to the best of us. And it's not good to force.

lilyfee 01-06-2018 06:01 PM

I think I remember a recent (in last few years) article where she mentioned writing songs about Game of Thrones characters... If we take her at her word, she is always writing, just does not want to record.

Phil 01-07-2018 09:18 AM

Technically, the last song Stevie had a hand in writing was "Beautiful People, Beautiful Problems", which she wrote with Lana Del Rey, Rick Nowles and Justin Parker. From what I can tell via interviews, Lana had written a version of the song in 2016 but wanted another female perspective, which is where Stevie came in. Stevie met up with Lana and Rick in early 2017, at which time she contributed lyrics and vocals.

mitzo 01-07-2018 11:54 AM

The last significant blast of writing was for Say You Will, which yielded Say You Will (the song), Silver Girl, Illume, and Destiny Rules. The next time we saw Stevie was for Live in Chicago, which featured no new songs but covers. I bet she could write a few great songs now, but seems truly determined not to record anymore. I wonder if the great success of the 24KG tour might prompt her to give it one more shot, with older demos redone again? Together with some other retrospective stuff in a big package?

dreamsunwind 01-07-2018 07:58 PM

I don't think she does. Or not really. She probably still writes her poems about whatever she wishes but I don't thinks she writes actual songs anymore. I believe a recent-ish interview she even said she doesn't write much lately.

JohnL 01-08-2018 04:14 PM

I would lay money that she will surprise us and release another album after the Fleetwood Mac tour ends. I think it will be a combination of new and older songs.

Wing24 01-08-2018 07:11 PM

Of course she still writes. It's just in a more literal and concise manner ala "You Can't Fix This". Her life is different now. She isn't on drugs and she isn't pining for " love". We, the fans, are her love at this point hence the constant touring. She has said herself that she can't write in the same manner that she used to. She has different priorities.

StevieandChris 01-08-2018 07:22 PM

The only one who can truly answer this is Stevie. She is a writer, so I am pretty sure she is still writing. Whether or not we get to hear/see what she is writing is the real question. I think the Game of Thrones poetry she wrote after her mother died may still be too painful to share yet. Who knows. She could also be working on her drawings/paintings. There are many ways to be creative. The fact that she had a ball on her last tour signifies to me she is still finding joy/inspiration!

WatchChain 01-08-2018 10:01 PM

We ALL change with time and age. Few of us over 45 are still pondering life and circumstances with the same perspective that we had in our 20s/30s. I can certainly understand her current state of output (or lack thereof). The older I get, the less frills that I need. Downsizing works for me these days.

That being said, it would have been fairly simple to put out a Fleetwood Mac record. There are numerous quality vault songs that have yet to receive a proper studio recording.

Record "Julia", "Space Needle", "Joan of Arc" and one new song and you've got Stevie's part of the album done.

editme2 01-09-2018 07:26 PM

I don't think she writes all that much anymore. I remember reading an interview with her a few years ago (unfortunately, I can't find it) in which she said it is harder for her to write these days simply because her life is different. That's not to say that she couldn't produce if she committed to making an album and had to have new songs to record.

I do find it kind of sad that Stevie seems to be in a creative rut right now while her bandmates Lindsey and Christine are having a renaissance of sorts. Lindsey, especially, is writing some amazing stuff these days.

Yes, Stevie just finished up a very successful tour (I credit The Pretenders with helping her fill the arenas, though), but she hasn't produced anything truly new in years.

sleepless child 01-10-2018 07:24 AM

I think it might be time for that book.

dreamsunwind 01-10-2018 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1219526)
I don’t think Stevie writes songs these days....maybe bits of prose.

I also think that is the reason she did not wish to make a new Album
with Fleetwood Mac, she has no new material.


Sad, but that’s how it is.......unless, well, all she has to do is write with someone.

I think so too. At first I assumed she held out mostly because she and Lindsey clash in the studio and that in general, Lindsey-issues aside, she has never really loved recording with the band.
But now after thinking about all her most recent material and how practically none of it is actually new, I'm starting to think this was also a critical reason. She has her old demos yes, but she'd probably rather keep her favorites of those for any solo project (like 24 Karat Gold: The Sequel). So if she had participated, she most likely would have ended up giving them one of her 'whatever' demos and compared to Lindsey and Christine's new material that they cranked out, it wouldn't have looked so good.

StevieandChris 01-11-2018 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by editme2 (Post 1219598)
I don't think she writes all that much anymore. I remember reading an interview with her a few years ago (unfortunately, I can't find it) in which she said it is harder for her to write these days simply because her life is different. That's not to say that she couldn't produce if she committed to making an album and had to have new songs to record.

I do find it kind of sad that Stevie seems to be in a creative rut right now while her bandmates Lindsey and Christine are having a renaissance of sorts. Lindsey, especially, is writing some amazing stuff these days.

Yes, Stevie just finished up a very successful tour (I credit The Pretenders with helping her fill the arenas, though), but she hasn't produced anything truly new in years.

It’s only a “rut” if she’s trying to write and is frustrated with herself that she is not releasing music. We don’t know her mind-set. If she’s doing what she wants to do, she could be extremely happy, even if it means she’s not sharing whatever she is working on.

secret love 01-11-2018 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by StevieandChris (Post 1219635)
It’s only a “rut” if she’s trying to write and is frustrated with herself that she is not releasing music. We don’t know her mind-set. If she’s doing what she wants to do, she could be extremely happy, even if it means she’s not sharing whatever she is working on.

I agree that Stevie Nicks is an incredibly happy and satisfied professional woman. She just wrapped a tour that she apparently called her best ever tour, period.

Stevie does not want to release NEW (not old demos, they don't count unless they are not on YouTube) songs. Does not want to release new music, period. SO pretty sure she has stopped even trying and does not write proper music anymore.

She may write lyrics but that would be about it in my summation. She doesn't have any new chords left to play with, period. Period. Just thought I'd say that again, PERIOD.

secret love 01-11-2018 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchChain (Post 1219588)
We ALL change with time and age. Few of us over 45 are still pondering life and circumstances with the same perspective that we had in our 20s/30s. I can certainly understand her current state of output (or lack thereof). The older I get, the less frills that I need. Downsizing works for me these days.

That being said, it would have been fairly simple to put out a Fleetwood Mac record. There are numerous quality vault songs that have yet to receive a proper studio recording.

Record "Julia", "Space Needle", "Joan of Arc" and one new song and you've got Stevie's part of the album done.

I love love love Space Needle and Julia and Joan of Arc.

She should do that if she has any sense. Those three would all be perfect for Fleetwood Mac. And if "My Mother's Rings" is a true song, not a rumour started by a Ledgie (and I promise I didn't start the rumour) then she should do that too.

Is My Mother's Rings a true/real song? Do we know? I read it on Fleetwood Mac News in 2013. So?

BombaySapphire3 01-11-2018 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1219665)
I love love love Space Needle and Julia and Joan of Arc.

She should do that if she has any sense. Those three would all be perfect for Fleetwood Mac. And if "My Mother's Rings" is a true song, not a rumour started by a Ledgie (and I promise I didn't start the rumour) then she should do that too.

Is My Mother's Rings a true/real song? Do we know? I read it on Fleetwood Mac News in 2013. So?

Yeah it is a real song.Stevie mentioned it in the Q&A she did at the screening of her IYD film that I attended at the Mill Valley film festival in 2012.

mitzo 01-14-2018 09:25 PM

Regardless of whether there is any new music written, I think we are due for some new product from Stevie, a retrospective again (after TimeSpace, Enchanted, Live in Chicago, and Crystal Visions) or a 24KG2.

Fannymac 01-16-2018 02:15 AM

I still think she may want to do the tribute album for her mom that she mentioned after her passing.
My gut also tells me that Tom Petty's passing could really be a kick in the pants for her....that's what he always said she was....a songwriter. She may see it as a way of honoring him.
I'm not ready to count her out yet.

mitzo 01-16-2018 10:28 AM

Pretty sure she doesn't have a recording contract, which complicates the picture a bit. Wasn't 24KG a quick job to satisfy her last contract to produce a certain number of products within a certain time frame?

Fannymac 01-16-2018 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1219756)
Pretty sure she doesn't have a recording contract, which complicates the picture a bit. Wasn't 24KG a quick job to satisfy her last contract to produce a certain number of products within a certain time frame?

It was.....but she's still getting "Courtesy of" credits for Reprise, the most recent being for the Charles Kelley duet in 2015, so maybe she reupped with them!

mitzo 01-17-2018 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fannymac (Post 1219763)
It was.....but she's still getting "Courtesy of" credits for Reprise, the most recent being for the Charles Kelley duet in 2015, so maybe she reupped with them!

Clever observation! Let's hope for more music from her.

StevieandChris 01-18-2018 07:26 PM

Has it ever been announced who her new publicist and/or FM's publicist is since Liz Rosenberg retired? So wish we could ask someone about new music/Stevie's writing. :-)

Hawkeye 01-18-2018 09:19 PM

Has anyone tried Dave Stewart?

Nick 01-20-2018 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fannymac (Post 1219753)
I still think she may want to do the tribute album for her mom that she mentioned after her passing.
My gut also tells me that Tom Petty's passing could really be a kick in the pants for her....that's what he always said she was....a songwriter. She may see it as a way of honoring him.
I'm not ready to count her out yet.

I thought the same thing recently regarding Tom's death. I'm hoping she was inspired to go back into the studio.

StevieandChris 01-25-2018 04:16 PM

Answers to the previous question I posed about publicity contact, at least for the band.

http://markets.businessinsider.com/n...nel-1014002710


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