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musicians you'd like to have heard / hear now Peter Green play with
So much in life is occurs thorough chance encounters - the rotating line-up of the Bluesbreakers brought Green together with John McVie & Mick Fleetwood - Anysley Dunbar recruited Green for a one off session with Jack Bruce on bass - Bruce of course paired off with another Bluesbreaker alumni...
but what if Green and Bruce had gotten together? Bruce was a writer, singer and took to the spotlight gladly - they would have needed a drummer other than Fleetwood, as his skill level was no where near what Green and Bruce were capable of at that time - Bob Brunning hooked up with Bob Hall - what if Green had brought Hall on board with Mac in the beginning? His keyboard approach was strong enough to fill their sound without a second guitar - Green needed someone to help with the writing and to take some of the pressure off of being the "front man" - anybody have any ideas who might have filled the bill? |
That version of "Stone Crazy" with Jack Bruce, Peter Green, Aynsley Dunbar & Rod Stewart is really great...a whole album of that lineup would've been interesting.
NOW, I would like to hear a Green/Clapton duet album (along the lines of the Clapton/BB King album). The Peter Green/Peter Gabriel pairing is intriguing. Peter Green with Sting & Stewart Copeland would be interesting. (I guess that would be SOMEWHAT close to your Peter Green with Jack Bruce pairing, eh?) ;) Peter Green with Shaggy or Mary J. Blige might be a stretch, but an interesting listen. Peter Green/Gregg Allman...hmmm.... |
Great suggestions
Gregg Allman - I always like Green's guitar matched with piano rather than organ - on keyboards I'd like to see him paired with Reese Wayans (the unoffical third member of Double Trouble) - but speaking of Allman - I think Derek Trucks could really bring out the best in Green - he can kick ass and has a beautiful soulful side to his playing -
Another player with amazing feel is Ronnie Earl - highly recommened if you like that aspect of Green's playing - Duke Robillard I think would not only make a great foil for Green, he can adapt to just about anybody's style, but he should be brought in to produce the next Splinter Group album - What I've been thinking about is an "alternate universe" band where a Them era Van Morrison would have joined Green with the McVie/Fleetwood rhythm section - Morrison could easily handle the deep blues that Green preferred and would have brought in that Stax / Volt vibe - I'd love to hear him take on "Stop Messin' Round" even now, maybe with the Uptown Horns - But of course, the dream would be Clapton and Green - the two of dueling on a song like "Layla" or trading acoustic steel licks on "Mean Old Frisco" - sadly it will probably remain just a dream - Keep the suggestions coming - I got some more I'm working on |
Ringo puts together an All-Starr BLUES Band
Ringo Starr & Charlie Watts-drums Bill Wyman-bass Peter Green, Bonnie Raitt, Ronnie Earl-guitars Leon Russell-piano Billy Preston-organ & electronic keyboards Jim Price, Bobby Keys-horns (substitute any of the following for the above named keyboard players: Billy Payne Chris Stainton Chuck Leavell Steve Winwood Bruce Hornsby Dr. John Benmont Tench Max Middleton |
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Truly inspired choices - especially Charlie Watts -
Another "Riding With the King" style pairing I'd like to see would be Green & Otis Rush - As I've said elsewhere, their pairings on "Hot Foot Powder" were highlights for me - Everyone talks about B.B. King's influence on Green, but no one ever mentions Rush - Green's single string style is King inspired no doubt, but his use of sustain, the emotion and the feeling are pure Otis Rush - After his recordings with the various labels owned by the Bihari Brothers (RPM, Crown etc) in the late fifties, King's style was much more pop oriented - Otis Rush was and still is, deep blues - From the Bluesbreakers, the smoking "So Many Roads, So Many Trains" to "Black Magic Woman" (a beautiful tribute to Rush's style) to "It Takes Time" Green has repeatedly drawn from that well - |
herding cats
In reading through the archives, I find that many of the members of this fence sitting group have gone through the same thoughts independently. I have been among musicians for a substantial part of my life and I wonder if they ever think in these collaborative terms. I think back to John Hammonds Triumverate which should have had success and beautiful music written all over it (John Hammond, Dr John and Michael Bloomfield) but it was mixed at best and fell apart faster than you could say "Blind Faith" .
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but on the other hand many legends are well past their prime now. Clapton and BB are still great, but not as creative as they were. I found "Riding with the king" rather dull. Also, I find that Greeny's playing is submerged in a weird way in these "all star" jams. Examples are the live jams with Grateful Dead and Clapton, Govt Mule and the Katmandu thing (although he was very ill then). Maybe it's that he doesn't like "competitive" playing? |
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Despite what we hear on those live Fleetwood Mac things from when Peter was at his peak and on End Of The Game, it seems Peter, these days (meaning: the last decade or so), from what I've seen & heard from him in that timeframe, would prefer to be in "well-rehearsed" situations, rather than an all-out jam situation.
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It seems to me like he is contributing more to the whole song these days ... doing a little riff or lick here and there ... more like adding a little piece the sum of it all .. rather than doing his own solo show. (I'm not sure I made myself clear though...:shrug: )
Though it could have worked if he was the only guitarist in an all-star band! :D As for collaborations, I think it would have been interesting to see him work more with non-blues artists. Also younger musicians. I liked the version of "Albatross" that he did with Chris Coco. Peter Gabriel...well, he didn't play much there, did he? How about him doing a little guitar work on the next Bowie album? I must admit, lately I've imagined Peter singing duet with....... Emmylou Harris!!!:o I wonder if he played with anybody when he was living in Sweden...? Think about him jamming with some of the GREAT pop bands there, for example "Thorleifs" or "Lasse Stefanz":] |
I'd love to hear Fleetwood Mac with the following lineup
Peter Green Christine McVie John McVie Mick Fleetwood Just playing the blues Gail |
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I would think that there'd be some tapes of that lineup already in one of the four of them's closet somewhere, just waiting to be unleashed on the world. Didn't John say that he found boxes & boxes of cassettes when he was recently moving? |
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these things are all too fleet in time. Otis had a stroke last year. vinnie c |
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Hi, all in all I don't appreciate these "Superstar Sessions".
Same thing with those Football Allstar Teams :) I just think that Peter Green f.e. did his best music with Fleetwood Mac |
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I have usually been disappointed with superstar sessions as well, but in rock and roll. It seems that Jazz musicians do not usually have this problem, but it is also true that they do not seek large group jams. Guitar players really have to be receptive to ensemble work. It is usually the exception to the rule. I think that Peter Green enabled it to function when Spencer and Kirwan joined. Spencer and Kirwan seemed to be more uncomfortable with it at the time.Peter was a sort of glue because even with all his talent he chose to make the others the focus. This is a rare quality in any performer of his calibre. I would love to see collaborations when the whole is more inportant that tthe individual. It made Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac featuring Jeremy Spencer work
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I think a perfect guitarist/musician to work with Peter would be Ry Cooder... He has worked with so many different types of musicians and played a large variety of musical styles and his music is always tasteful without having one musician being forced to sit in the spotlight. (A great fit for Peter)
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that would be an interesting mix if either one would go out looking for the other. they both might find chinese music at the same time. Ry Cooder is reclusive except when on a mission. Peter is, well, Peter. His public statements lead one to believe he isnt really alll that good, just a copycat with taste. One could argue that the same is true of Ry Cooder. I would love to hear a conversation among eccentric musicians of emense talent
I have read that one musician of note who is actually interested in playing with Peter Green and would be another very interesting colaboration is David Hildago. David's phrasing is like Peter of old. He is not a big ego and has great taste. Los Lobos has a very tight sound , not unlike FM or The Splinter group. If only they would be in contact. |
I think David Hidalgo might be a very good match for playing with Peter. Just curious, where did you read that he would be interested in playing with Greeny?
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Just a slight detour here, since Los Lobos was brought up. Whose wife was it that went missing and have they ever found her?
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still have not found it but
this is a quote from 10/17/96 Michigan Daily Online
"I think one of the cooler things about my band is that everybody's got different people that they would name(as influences). I know David (Hidalgo, Lobos guitarist, vocalist and songwriter) would probably say early Fleetwood Mac, Peter Green and Albert King. Cesar (Rosas, singer-songwriter-guitarist) would probably say Hendrix, more than anybody. Everybody in the band would probably have a different list," Berlin said. |
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