"I love you Stevie" Songs?
 

Sort of a sequel to my question about Christine and John. We know Save Me A Place was an "I love you, Carol Ann" song and It Was You is an "I love you, Kristen" song. Go Your Own Way is about his breakup with Stevie, most of the songs on Go Insane were about his breakup with Carol Ann, and Stevie wrote Without You and Crystal as "I Love You, Lindsey" songs. But surely in the time they were together, Lindsey must've written something for Stevie right? RIGHT?:shrug:

Never thought about this. He doesn't have many song about her written in a good way. There's "Frozen Love", though I'm not sure how much of that he wrote versus Stevie (it's credited to both). The only thing that comes close is "Stephanie", which is obviously named after her and a very pretty song... even though its an instrumental :lol:

a good number of loving (as a i care for you) songs for her in his later opus - It Takes Time of the recent ones and Say Goodbye come to mind. also Sad Angel really is loving.

i know people say Go Your Own Way or Second Hand News are kiss off, but they are actually loving kiss offs(or i still wanna have sex at least in case of SHN lol) - if i could i'd give you my world, but you wouldn't take it from me - that is love.

I assume you aren't counting Stephanie given it doesn't have lyrics.


I'd like to agree with the above post which said, many of his songs for Stevie are, I still love you if you'd just love me, type of songs. While the common belief is that Go Insane is about Carol Ann, I personally think it's him talking just as much to Stevie, saying I'm going through all of this because I don't have you, I'd rather be with you.

I googled It Takes Time and found two different sets of lyrics! Are there two songs by that name? I thought the one that talked about her saving him was about Kristen? Hmm...

I may be wrong but didn’t Mick say all 3 songs LB contributed to the EP were written for Stevie?

I remember LB saying in an interview that when he wrote 'Stephanie' he didn't have a name for it, so SN herself said, "why don't you name it Stephanie?", and he was like, "ok".

I do think that’s true now. It is an intense song, too.
So this is the link w the weird lyrics. Do u know where they come from?

https://www.google.com/search?client...4GADz9VRaNAAAA

If that isn't true love, nothing is.

not counting it because that song was not written for or about Stevie. he said that he didn't have a title for it, so she said to title it Stephanie, and he said ok.

yes - his songs about Stevie from the period early after their breakup seem to be about how much love he has for her, but that she doesn't want that love anymore. Stevie's songs about Lindsey from that period are more scolding him for not appreciating her enough than any love she may had for him (you will know what you lost). even songs from later period - like Thrown Down, don't express her love but want him to prove that he will now be good for her. she seems to crave appreciation from him.

for Go Insane he did answer a tweet recently and said it was about Stevie, too. and most interpretations say it's about both Carol and Stevie, because "she's a lot like you" obviously refers to two different women.

i don't know whether Mick said it, but Lindsey certainly did. i guess in It Takes Times especially, maybe trying to give her that appreciation she seemed to have been continually craving from him.

yup.

yeah i googled it after you pointed that out - no idea where that song came from. it's listed as LB / FM song too. anyone else here knows?
the song i was referring too was It Takes Time from FM Extended Play, 2013, and definitely not that one at this link.

https://www.discogs.com/Peter-Green-...elease/4985009

The link above shows an old FM album with performance of It Takes Time by Brunning Sunflower Blues Band. If u google that band, u can read more. So that first google link seems incorrect and misleading.

I’ve enjoyed listening to Extended Play today since this topic arose. 😀

the 3 songs on the EP were written by him to appeal to her and remind her of their connection. I got to talk with him briefly about the EP at one of his shows. He said point blank those were written to try and entice her into the studio, and he mentioned Miss Fantasy in particular. I told him It Takes Time was beautiful as well.

Nice conversation, thanks for sharing!

I remember you telling us this after the show, while eating free popcorn! :D


He was chatty that day, right? It was a long M&G line but he was willing to talk to all of us, about anything you wanted to know. I think it was my most talkative M&G. :D We were lucky. :nod:

In the Tusk remaster linear notes LB says Save me a place was written more about Stevie not CAH

on the other hand we know he's sometimes full of sh*t and has multiple completely opposite interpretations of the same song, like one interpretation per decade. ;)

Id tend to agree, SN in particular is even more notorious for changing her song interpretations and meanings.

But in this case and to put it so public as in on liner notes I tend to think he is being very genuine and honest here....

Stevie and I had compartmentalised our emotions in order to [get through Rumours], lived in denial. Same with Christine and John. None of us had the luxury of distance to get closure. You get to Tusk and there’s a real aggressive attitude in a lot of the songs from me. But “Save Me A Place” is one where, late at night, you reflect on the vulnerability underneath that. It’s about a feeling that’s been laid off to one side and maybe not been fully dealt with, sadness and a sense of loss. There’s also a sense of loss for my youth and my upbringing; memories of that, which I loved so much, and how I saw that receding away.

I'm pretty certain the clip you are referring to is one of the tracks on the Words And Music CD.

But Carol said in her book that the title came from a direct conversation the two were having. Speaking of Carol, that leads me to another question. Did she ever find someone? Reading her book, I was touched by the amount of devotion she had towards Lindsey, especially running barefoot to the doctor's office for his pain meds. I really think she'd make someone a perfect wife. She deserves it.

Carol wishes to believe the song is about her. Are you surprised that she has found a way to justify that belief to herself, despite Lindsey never saying it was about her?

But when the songwriter himself actually does say it is about another woman (Stevie), and not only says it but has it put in writing on the album's liner notes...

Well, I think we should give a bit more credibility to the latter statement, don't you?

In that case, are there any love songs about Carol?:shrug:

while i think that's nicely said, it kinda looks like one of those template stories LB puts together and then picks the song to fit it to. like that speech about "the importance and power of change" that he used for Big Love most recently, and for some other songs on previous tours. the 2 sentences that i highlighted are the only ones that are specific to Tusk songs in general and mention SMAP in particular. all the rest is his more general stuff that looks like he's written to use somewhere in some linear notes.

that said, yeah SMAP can be about either of those 2 women, or both of them, or just some nice lyrics he fit to the music he wrote about someone or no one specific. we know he writes music and arrangement first, and then tries to find some lyrics that might fit.

Can't Go Back may have a little Stevie in it. At any rate, it has a whole lot of nostalgia for a lost love in it.

he was indeed chatty that evening, so it seemed to me... you guys have gone to more shows so you have a better comparison of how it stacked up to previous shows. He blabbed with me a hella lot longer than I expected so I was thrilled!!!

and he was def irked about Stevie and wasn't at all inhibited about venting it.

ah, the free popcorn! :laugh: It was very cool meeting you all. :nod:

I also remember how frickin' cold it was, and I grew up there! Glad I live somewhere warmer now!!

gotta love straightforward no-filter off-the-cuff real life LB! :xoxo:

What'd he say? What'd he say?
Spill, Bomby!

Ditto, my ears are piqued!

I've posted about this before. He just said that he believes Stevie isn't writing anymore, that she doesn't have any new material, and she didn't want to record with the band because she didn't want it to be obvious to everyone that she had nothing new to offer. He said he was remaining creatively active and putting her old stuff out would highlight that she isn't. I mentioned Extended Play [because it had come up repeatedly recently on my iPod which reminded me of how good the songs were] and I thanked him for doing it and how I loved his songs, and he said that was all written to try and entice her back into recording, especially Miss Fantasy. That was the gist of it.