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macfan 57 06-08-2006 10:48 AM

"Got A Hold On Me" on YouTube
 
Someone just recently added Christine's "Got A Hold On Me" video to YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCt0W...istine%20mcvie

BTFLCHLD 06-08-2006 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
Someone just recently added Christine's "Got A Hold On Me" video to YouTube.

:cool: Thanks for locating and posting!

David 06-08-2006 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
Someone just recently added Christine's "Got A Hold On Me" video to YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCt0W...istine%20mcvie

I always thought Christine looked so casual yet elegant on this studio video. I wish she had carried over this particular look throughout the year, including the promo photography & the tour itself. I don't know why she instead decided to do her makeup like Nefertiti. Chris was walking like an Egyptian four or five years before the Bangles were recommending it!

macfan 57 06-08-2006 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by David
I always thought Christine looked so casual yet elegant on this studio video. I wish she had carried over this particular look throughout the year, including the promo photography & the tour itself. I don't know why she instead decided to do her makeup like Nefertiti. Chris was walking like an Egyptian four or five years before the Bangles were recommending it!

I think she looked great in that laserdisc documentary too. A casual Christine always looks best, in my opinion.

DrK 06-08-2006 10:41 PM

Thanks for the post. Every time I listen to "Friend," I'm struck by how Christine sings "been" with the distinct English pronunciation of "bean" ("before the first love song had ever 'bean' sung.") I wondered if she had always used that pronunciation, wracking my brain for any other examples. In "Got A Hold On Me," she definitely uses the American pronunciation of "been."

macfan 57 06-09-2006 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DrK
Thanks for the post. Every time I listen to "Friend," I'm struck by how Christine sings "been" with the distinct English pronunciation of "bean" ("before the first love song had ever 'bean' sung.") I wondered if she had always used that pronunciation, wracking my brain for any other examples. In "Got A Hold On Me," she definitely uses the American pronunciation of "been."

Back in 1984, she'd been pretty Americanized having lived in the U.S. for quite a while. Now she's back home in England, maybe that would explain the English pronunciation of "been" in Friend. I'd actually never noticed this before.:D

Gailh 06-09-2006 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
Back in 1984, she'd been pretty Americanized having lived in the U.S. for quite a while. Now she's back home in England, maybe that would explain the English pronunciation of "been" in Friend. I'd actually never noticed this before.:D

I didn't know there was a difference!

Can someone explain this to me?

Gail

ThePenguin 06-09-2006 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Gailh
I didn't know there was a difference!

Can someone explain this to me?

Gail

Here in the US we sort of pronounce that word the way you guys say 'bin' . IMO Chris does sound very British in her pronunciation of 'bean' on Friend. :D

-Lis

Gailh 06-09-2006 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePenguin
Here in the US we sort of pronounce that word the way you guys say 'bin' . IMO Chris does sound very British in her pronunciation of 'bean' on Friend. :D

-Lis

Ah suddenly everything is clear!

In my normal everyday (sloppy) speach I would say bin

Perhaps Christine was trying to pronounce in the proper English manner Quite right too! (Resists temptation to burst in Land of Hope and Glory) :laugh:

Sorry about that it's just that it's very hot in this (non air-conditioned) office today and I've had a horrible week and I want to go home.

Gail

aleuzzi 06-09-2006 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DrK
Thanks for the post. Every time I listen to "Friend," I'm struck by how Christine sings "been" with the distinct English pronunciation of "bean" ("before the first love song had ever 'bean' sung.") I wondered if she had always used that pronunciation, wracking my brain for any other examples. In "Got A Hold On Me," she definitely uses the American pronunciation of "been."

I think her producer on the 1984 record, Russ Titleman, probably encouraged her to pronounce words "like an American."

She and her nephew, both Brits, probably didn't even notice her pronunciation. Whatever the case, I LOVE when she pronounces been as "bean" in "Friend." It's so damn charming and -- because I make this association with the British "accent" -- elegant.

Gailh 06-09-2006 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by David
Chris was walking like an Egyptian four or five years before the Bangles were recommending it!

I always knew she ahead of her time!

Actually I think her hair looks a bit of a mess in this video

Gail

Gailh 06-09-2006 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi
I think her producer on the 1984 record, Russ Titleman, probably encouraged her to pronounce words "like an American."

She and her nephew, both Brits, probably didn't even notice her pronunciation. Whatever the case, I LOVE when she pronounces been as "bean" in "Friend." It's so damn charming and -- because I make this association with the British "accent" -- elegant.

I've just listened to Friend for about the (4 millionth time) and I do hear "been" but I think it has to be like that to fit in properly because "bin" would be too short. I don't know if that makes any sense.

I'm sure there's some proper musical explanation for this.

I bet she says "bin" in her normal everyday speach - I bin watchin the telly instead of I have been watching the television for example.

Gail

macfan 57 06-09-2006 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gailh
I've just listened to Friend for about the (4 millionth time) and I do hear "been" but I think it has to be like that to fit in properly because "bin" would be too short. I don't know if that makes any sense.

I'm sure there's some proper musical explanation for this.

I bet she says "bin" in her normal everyday speach - I bin watchin the telly instead of I have been watching the television for example.

Gail

I'm going to have to keep my ears open when I listen to any of her interviews now. I'd like to know if she pronounces been...."bean" or "bin".:laugh:

DrK 06-09-2006 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
I'm going to have to keep my ears open when I listen to any of her interviews now. I'd like to know if she pronounces been...."bean" or "bin".:laugh:

Let us know what you hear.:nod:

aleuzzi 06-10-2006 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gailh
I've just listened to Friend for about the (4 millionth time) and I do hear "been" but I think it has to be like that to fit in properly because "bin" would be too short. I don't know if that makes any sense.

Gail

Your explanation makes a lot of musical sense to me. I suspect you're talking about duration, which affects the way one pronounces vowels in speech and in song. As a writer, reader, and teacher of poetry, this issue crops up in class discussions more than you'd think.

dougl 06-10-2006 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
I'm going to have to keep my ears open when I listen to any of her interviews now. I'd like to know if she pronounces been...."bean" or "bin".:laugh:

There's a nice clear 'been' from Christine at the 5:30 minute mark on Part IV of the Fleetwood Mac on Q105 Tampa Radio - Tango In The Night interview that David posted in the Rumours forum. Have a listen! BTW, listen from the 4:53 mark for a fun question.

macfan 57 06-11-2006 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dougl
There's a nice clear 'been' from Christine at the 5:30 minute mark on Part IV of the Fleetwood Mac on Q105 Tampa Radio - Tango In The Night interview that David posted in the Rumours forum. Have a listen! BTW, listen from the 4:53 mark for a fun question.

Unfortunately, YouSendIt is not working for me now & it hasn't since Wednesday evening.:( I already have this on CD. Where in the interview is this?

dougl 06-11-2006 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
Unfortunately, YouSendIt is not working for me now & it hasn't since Wednesday evening.:( I already have this on CD. Where in the interview is this?

It's towards the end when this guy asks a question of Christine and Stevie since they're 'the musicians in the band'. Try around the 26:45 minute mark.

macfan 57 06-11-2006 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dougl
It's towards the end when this guy asks a question of Christine and Stevie since they're 'the musicians in the band'. Try around the 26:45 minute mark.

Thanks, Doug.:) I heard it now. She pronounced been as "bean". She said it the "English" way.:D The guys did seem to get a kick out of that question about Chris & Stevie being the musicians in the band.;)

DrK 07-03-2006 11:29 PM

Okay, I was listening to FM's Greatest Hits tonight, and Christine definitely says "bin" in "As Long as You Follow" -- "I've 'bin' searching. . . for a pot of gold."

macfan 57 07-04-2006 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DrK
Okay, I was listening to FM's Greatest Hits tonight, and Christine definitely says "bin" in "As Long as You Follow" -- "I've 'bin' searching. . . for a pot of gold."

"As Long As You Follow" was recorded here in the U.S. with an American producer. That could be why she said "bin" rather than "bean". I guess I'll have to listen for "been" more closely from now on.:D

DrK 07-04-2006 12:50 PM

Thanks for the thought. The only reason I began to notice this is because of the "bean" in "Friend." Obviously, as heard in the interviews, she continued to use "bean" when she spoke, even after all her years of living in the U.S. I guess I should go back and listen to her early (before she began living in the U.S.) materials to see if she sang "bin" or "bean."

macfan 57 07-04-2006 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DrK
Thanks for the thought. The only reason I began to notice this is because of the "bean" in "Friend." Obviously, as heard in the interviews, she continued to use "bean" when she spoke, even after all her years of living in the U.S. I guess I should go back and listen to her early (before she began living in the U.S.) materials to see if she sang "bin" or "bean."

Believe it or not, I thought of that. All of her albums before 1974 were recorded in England with English producers, so I would assume that she used the English "bean", assuming that word is in any of those songs.;)

DrK 07-04-2006 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
Believe it or not, I thought of that. All of her albums before 1974 were recorded in England with English producers, so I would assume that she used the English "bean", assuming that word is in any of those songs.;)

Okay, now this is getting interesting. I just listened to "I'm on my Way" on "Christine Perfect," and she sings "bin."

macfan 57 07-04-2006 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DrK
Okay, now this is getting interesting. I just listened to "I'm on my Way" on "Christine Perfect," and she sings "bin."

I give up.:laugh: I can't figure her out.:D

JunkFoodGenius 07-06-2006 01:42 AM

Gloves and bolo tie...and I'll let her get away with it. But that is an image that is going to stay with me for a while! :shocked:

HomerMcvie 07-06-2006 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JunkFoodGenius
Gloves and bolo tie...and I'll let her get away with it. But that is an image that is going to stay with me for a while! :shocked:

Hey!, it was the eighties! Looking back, some of the clothing was RIDICULOUS(and I'm blaming MTV, and Wacko Jacko).:wavey:

Gailh 07-06-2006 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DrK
Okay, now this is getting interesting. I just listened to "I'm on my Way" on "Christine Perfect," and she sings "bin."

Most English people would pronounce been as "bin" in normal everyday speach.

Gail

JunkFoodGenius 07-06-2006 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
Hey!, it was the eighties! Looking back, some of the clothing was RIDICULOUS(and I'm blaming MTV, and Wacko Jacko).:wavey:

I think it proves that Christine met Prince before Stevie did! (Christine is always well dressed, in my opinion. This is why it makes me exceptionally giggly! :] )

David 07-06-2006 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DrK
Okay, now this is getting interesting. I just listened to "I'm on my Way" on "Christine Perfect," and she sings "bin."

I still need to buy that album. :shocked:

DrK 07-06-2006 11:44 PM

I enjoy playing her three solo efforts randomly -- it's interesting to hear how her voice has changed, as well as the different musical styles ('60s blues, '80s pop, and '00s 'easy listening'). These differences are more apparent when the songs are heard randomly.


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