SOTU Address Thread
 

Just getting ready (or, rather, bracing) for tonights onslaught. :laugh:

:wavey:

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Mee too!!!!

P.S. "tonights" should be possessive :D (like my spelling does not leave everything to be desired :laugh: )

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Yeah, Mr. Shounds is going to lecture me on grammar. :laugh:

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Not a lecture, just a pointer!!!! AND Caruso's teacher could not sing ;)

I think it is so funny how everyone can spot mistakes other people make. Yet, I can read my post 15 times before sending it and sure enough there are like 10 typos!!! :laugh: Plus, I am a self-admitted HORRIBLE typist!! :laugh:

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It's okay, we still love you. And I know what you mean anyway.:)

All you liberals are probably salivating right now . . .;)

Let's see:

Gay people are the source of your problems America - so vote for me and I'll take care of them! I mean who the hell do you black - I mean Er a you gay people think you are? - Trying to be normal like "us" - Please!!! In the Lord's name, go back in the closet and don't bother us anymore with your sick, sin filled, promiscuous lifestyle! What - Oh my brother - Well, I mean, he didn't know those were call girls and its not a really, really most hugest kind of sin unless you do it in this country, get caught, and/or are gay! Again, gay people are going to burn in hell no matter what. But, we straight/WASP people can screw around all we want because we are the chosen ones. Therefore, do not mind that the same language that damns blacks - I mean Er a - gays to eternal hell also damns any adulterer, that book does not apply to us.

On the other stuff, yes Iraq had a program to develop WMD, Yes the world agreed about it, but I refuse to answer why I alleged knowingly false information to the American public and the world to make my case more compelling so that non-believers would believe me. I mean PUUHHHLLEEEZZZEEEE - after we invaded them, I said I should not have used it. What else do want from me?

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Actually - I think W should have said SH was a fag - thereby making the hypocritical religious right hate him even more on an assinine grounds :mad:

What a bastard.

He practically said that gay people are the root of some of our problems in America. He actually believes that abstinence programs will work. He actually believes that the majority of the country is agaisnt gay marriages. AND he believes that his joke of a program entitled "No Child Left Behind" is a good thing.

He has no clue.

You said it.

Bush is a hateful, self-righteous man that I detest more and more. He is just hateful.

Also...

Drug testing should not be done in schools. Government funds should not be made available to churches.

You didn't mention Clinton's Executive Order of 1996 - guess that was okay. Ever see the Catholic Tom Daschle squirm on this subject? It's quite amusing.


By the way, I do support domestic partnerships and happen to be a Republican. Many of my friends don't understand how that can be, but does anyone believe 100% in the rhetoric their party spews? I don't. I just happen to side with the Republicans on most issues.

~Krista~

My thing is teach abstinence all you want because that really is the only way not to get AIDS, pregnant, etc. through sex. But, also realize that while some people may hopefully buy that concept and apply it in their lives, many if not the vast majority will not no matter how many billions of $$$ you put into teaching it. Therefore, teach other ave. of less safe but far more practicle procedures (condoms, monogamy, etc.). This at least gives kids a chance.

They need to trash the teaching of abstinence. These days, kids are very sexual and they will not stop fooling around. Screw the abstinence education and pass out spermicide and condoms.

I am unsure which Executive Order that was. If you are suggesting that the D are just as bad on the subject of gay marriage, you are correct in that the Defense of Marriage Act overwhelmingly passed with bipartisan support.

I do know, however, that Bill Clinton signed an Executive Order making it illegal to fire a govt. employee solely on the grounds that they are gay. To his credit, W has not rescinded that Order. Also, I do not think W is against gay people per se. I just think he has run out of demons to point to in an attempt to rally his conservative far right religious base. So, he selects gay people because he knows gay people are hated (I know of no other adequate word) by the conservative far right religious base. Notice, btw that W cleverly did not mention civil unions. He, and more importantly Karl Rove, will let the talk show guests right now address that.

Finally, I agree, the SOTU is a big pow wow about stuff few actually believe.

Well, I think they should at least mention it. Why not. After all, that is the only sure fire way. But, I agree - hand out the condoms, etc.

BTW - I am for drug testing in schools.

Did you see Ted Kennedy when they cut to him early in the speech? He shook his head and rolled his eyes. :laugh:

All of the Democrats look bored (as did Condie Rice, actually) and sat while the Republicans gave 589 standing ovations.

I know a friend emailed me a pic of Teddy rolling his eyes LMAO.

Now, I didn't hear that at all.

He wants to increase education in this area. What is the big deal? How can you argue with the fact that IT IS THE ONLY WAY to prevent pregnancy and STDs?

Unlike some conservatives, I think it is good to have education on all these things, including providing condoms. I don't stick my head in the sand and pretend that if I don't talk about it, it won't happen.

Kids are gonna do what they are gonna do. Parents need to take a more active role in this type of education for their kids. Lord knows, I didn't get it from my parents!

Oh, they should mention it. But what they want to do is ditch the safe sex education and focus only on abstinence; that's a big mistake.

As for drug testing in schools, I don't support it. I think it's an invasion of privacy that should not be conducted by a school and it's staff.

:laugh: The only thing my Dad ever told me was to put a raincoat on it and if I got any disease (this was pre-AIDS) come to him and not my mother :laugh:

You make some good points. :nod:
I realize the religious right makes up a large number of Republicans, but it's not all of us. :)

~Krista

Send it to me!

Pretty please?

I'll put it in my sig. :laugh:

LMAO!!!!

:laugh: :laugh:

My mother took me to lunch in 8th grade to tell me about "the birds and the bees". :rolleyes:

She had barely choked out those words when I told her that I had known what sex was since I was in first grade!:eek: And she had the nerve to look shocked! :laugh:

Is anyone watching the Democratic rebuttals right now? They're fab. :D

Sorry - I thought you were saying don't even teach abstinence. ;)

I thjnk the drug testing should be done in situations like sports, erradic behavior, probable cause, etc. I do not support random drug testing although I am not vehemently opposed to it as the govt. does have a legitimate interest in ensuring kids attend school in a drug free environment. I mean, the school can search a locker . . .

:eek: EEK :eek:

I just re read that. I did not mean the tone as harsh. Sorry if it came off that way :wavey:

I already deleted it. I will see if I can get it back.

I agree. Schools have tested those in "extra-curricular" activities for awhile now.

Searching a locker and testing someones piss is quite different. :laugh:

I am vehemently opposed to school drug testing. I think in certain cases (like the ones you mentioned), the parents should have the power to have drug tests taken. Not the school; it's not their place.

LOL! That was pretty funny.


~Krista

I know, good lord. I had to do a double-take to see if I had posted it. :laugh:

:wavey:

Point taken!!

I was just coming from the point of view that I think most parents would gladly allow the school to pay for the testing, etc.

Well...why not make it a tax credit? :laugh: :wavey:

23 billion dollars for drug testing in public schools? How about if we can just get them current text books and decent supplies?

I didn't think you were being harsh -- just stating your opinion. :)


~Krista

Phew!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Sometimes when, like everyone I guess, I type real fast, I re read them and go - "I sound like jerk!" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

Did you see Hillary? Her expression made Teddy look like Mr. Happy.

Now Now - what good is a tax credit for the lower income families!?!?!? :laugh:

Exactly.

Kerry's on TV right now talking about gay marriage.

He was one of 14 who opposed the Defense of Marriage Act. He said he personally doesn't believe in gay marriage, but that his personal views should not cloud his judgement and that he believes gays should have the right to marry because there is a seperation of church of state. :D