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Tellurium 11-06-2008 01:19 AM

Bob Welch-era compilation?
 
This doesn't exist, as far as I know. If it actually does, I'll be thrilled to bits, so someone please let me know!

Peter Green and Lindsey Buckingham era's both have arseloads of compilations. IMO the Bob Welch era produced some of the Mac's best ever stuff, but several of the albums were a bit choppy, so a compilation would be particularly useful for those who don't want to shell out for everything.

Anyway... I'm just rambling really :lol:... But it'd be nice... Anyone of like mind? Or does he stand alone on this one?

Almost Simon 11-06-2008 06:14 AM

There isnt one but you could always suggest a tracklisting for one. Obviously a sing disk cd so a max of 80 mins. That should cover the albums he was involved with.

Here's mine although it runs from Kiln House upto Heroes Are Hard To Find so not strictly a bob Welch era compilation, I felt the need to create a compilation that covers all bases between the Green and Buckingham/Nicks era's.

Not sure about who actually plays on Purple Dancer and Dragonfly but I feel they are able to be allowed to exist on this compilation.

1. Hypnotised
2. Woman Of 1000 Years
3. Morning Rain
4. Dragon Fly
5. Future Games
6. Earl Grey
7. Come A Little Bit Closer
8. Trinity
9. Tell Me All the Things You Do
10. Emerald Eyes
11. Sunny Side Of Heaven
12. Lay It All Down
13. Why
14. Purple Dancer
15. Show Me A Smile
16. Dust

chiliD 11-06-2008 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Almost Simon (Post 783271)
Not sure about who actually plays on Purple Dancer and Dragonfly but I feel they are able to be allowed to exist on this compilation.

Mick Fleetwood: drums
John McVie: bass
Christine Perfect: keyboards, vocals
Jeremy Spencer: slide guitar, vocals
Danny Kirwan: lead/rhythm guitar, vocals


My tracklist (starting with Future Games, since the Madison Blues set covers the Kiln House era band): (not sure of timing...but I think it's under 80 minutes)

Sunny Side Of Heaven
Future Games
Spare Me A Little Of Your Love
Sands Of Time
Sentimental Lady
Heroes Are Hard To Find
Woman Of 1000 Years
Revelation
Believe Me
Bermuda Triangle
Child Of Mine
Angel
Dissatisfied
Hypnotized
Dust
Why

Moz 11-06-2008 11:43 AM

I make my own compilations with my favourite songs from each era. :nod:

DavidMn 11-06-2008 01:43 PM

God, Woman Of 1000 Years and Future Games are pure genius!

SteveMacD 11-07-2008 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn (Post 783338)
God, Woman Of 1000 Years and Future Games are pure genius!

That whole album is pure genius.

aleuzzi 11-07-2008 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 783464)
That whole album is pure genius.

Except Christine's vocals on Morning Rain...

I am one of the biggest Christine fans known to man and think the piano and guitar work on the song are excellent. But, man, did she blow that vocal...The earlier version (called "Start Again") features a far better, more confident performance--but without as great piano and guitar work.

aleuzzi 11-07-2008 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 783296)

My tracklist (starting with Future Games, since the Madison Blues set covers the Kiln House era band): (not sure of timing...but I think it's under 80 minutes)

Sunny Side Of Heaven
Future Games
Spare Me A Little Of Your Love
Sands Of Time
Sentimental Lady
Heroes Are Hard To Find
Woman Of 1000 Years
Revelation
Believe Me
Bermuda Triangle
Child Of Mine
Angel
Dissatisfied
Hypnotized
Dust
Why

I too would start with Future Games and end with Heroes. Here's my dream compilation. It's not perfect, and I'm inclined to change my mind about a number of my choices, but what the hell...

Woman of a Thousand Years
Remember Me
Sentimental Lady
Sometimes
Spare Me a Little
Child of Mine
Miles Away
Did You Ever Love Me
Prove Your love
Future Games
Hypnotized
Bad Loser
Bermuda Triangle
Believe Me (from Record Plant recording)
Trinity
Dust
Why

chiliD 11-07-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 783494)
Miles Away

ACK!!! I knew I'd leave out a killer song!! Great choice!

SteveMacD 11-07-2008 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 783492)
Except Christine's vocals on Morning Rain...

I am one of the biggest Christine fans known to man and think the piano and guitar work on the song are excellent. But, man, did she blow that vocal...The earlier version (called "Start Again") features a far better, more confident performance--but without as great piano and guitar work.

Yeah, her voice was rough back then, but I still love it.

chriskisn 11-08-2008 09:02 AM

I really am the only one who would add The Derelict in here aren't I?

I'm not a fan of the Danny & Christine stuff from this period, but Bob Welch did some fantastic stuff, he could almost have his own compilation.

slipkid 11-08-2008 09:21 AM

What about "Show Me A Smile"? That was the tectonic plate shift song that changed FM into an American pop band.

aleuzzi 11-08-2008 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chriskisn (Post 783592)
I really am the only one who would add The Derelict in here aren't I?

Yes, I think so!

David 11-08-2008 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chriskisn (Post 783592)
I really am the only one who would add The Derelict in here aren't I?

No, that's my favorite. But who am I, you might ask. Well, I'll tell you -- but later.

The Derelict & Prove Your Love are really my favorites.

chriskisn 11-08-2008 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 783617)
No, that's my favorite. But who am I, you might ask. Well, I'll tell you -- but later.

The Derelict & Prove Your Love are really my favorites.

Yes Yes Yes! Another person who likes The Derelict!

I'm a Dave Walker fan though, so my view of this song is probably distorted by that...

SteveMacD 11-09-2008 12:32 AM

See, I'd try to make it a 2 CD set. I don't know what I'd put on it at this point.

I'd really love to have a video compilation from this era.

Moz 11-09-2008 02:05 AM

Here's mine (in no particular order, somewhat grouped by album)...

The Ghost
Sunny Side of Heaven
Spare Me A Little of Your Love
Sentimental Lady
Bermuda Triangle
Coming Home
Angel
Bad Loser
Born Enchanter
Bare Trees
Believe Me
Future Games
Hypnotized
Just Crazy Love
KEEP ON GOING!
Miles Away
Why
Bright Fire
Morning Rain
Sands of Time
Night Watch

There's others but I'm only going by what's on my iPod.

Almost Simon 11-09-2008 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 783682)
See, I'd try to make it a 2 CD set. I don't know what I'd put on it at this point.

:confused: A 2cd set would allow you to put nearly ALL the tracks from that era on it. It's only 5 albums between Future Games and Heroes. So wouldn't really be a best of compilation, would it??? :cool:

David 11-09-2008 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Almost Simon (Post 783686)
:confused: A 2cd set would allow you to put nearly ALL the tracks from that era on it. It's only 5 albums between Future Games and Heroes. So wouldn't really be a best of compilation, would it??? :cool:

I've noticed that oddity about fans of the pre-1975 Macs: You ask them to name their favorites, & they rattle off every last track the band recorded in that era.

David 11-09-2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chriskisn (Post 783662)
Yes Yes Yes! Another person who likes The Derelict!

I sing it & play it on the piano all the time. It's even on my MP3 player at the gym -- it's perfect rhythmically for leg extensions.

I posted its chords on the Ledge about five years ago.

aleuzzi 11-09-2008 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 783697)
I sing it & play it on the piano all the time. It's even on my MP3 player at the gym -- it's perfect rhythmically for leg extensions.

I posted its chords on the Ledge about five years ago.

As a song, I find it very satisfying. It just seems entirely out of place on Penguin--or any Mac record.

aleuzzi 11-09-2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 783696)
I've noticed that oddity about fans of the pre-1975 Macs: You ask them to name their favorites, & they rattle off every last track the band recorded in that era.

Mac fans are crazy people. Myself included. :]:]

SteveMacD 11-09-2008 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Almost Simon (Post 783686)
:confused: A 2cd set would allow you to put nearly ALL the tracks from that era on it. It's only 5 albums between Future Games and Heroes. So wouldn't really be a best of compilation, would it??? :cool:

What, you wouldn't want a few choice live cuts?

Almost Simon 11-10-2008 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 783737)
What, you wouldn't want a few choice live cuts?

I guess you could have a few live tracks but then you'd be duplicating studio tracks on the same compilation.

Are there that many live professionally recorded concerts from the 1971-1974 era??

chriskisn 11-10-2008 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 783717)
As a song, I find it very satisfying. It just seems entirely out of place on Penguin--or any Mac record.

Hmm...depends on your view of the Mac really. I just wish he had been given more of a chance to prove himself.

Sure, it didn't fit in with Bob Welch's dreamy stuff or Christine's pop tunes, but hey, the band has always been a mix of all kinds of music. There has never been a "Mac style".

Then again, that's just my opinion. I kinda like all those obscure Mac members... :laugh:

chiliD 11-10-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 783697)
I posted its chords on the Ledge about five years ago.


I'm thinking it's about time for an encore. :nod: Let's see those chords again, please! :thumbsup:

chiliD 11-10-2008 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Almost Simon (Post 783778)
IAre there that many live professionally recorded concerts from the 1971-1974 era??


We don't know...that's the point. (Of course, there are a few of 1974, but earlier than that? :shrug: )

chiliD 11-10-2008 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 783696)
I've noticed that oddity about fans of the pre-1975 Macs: You ask them to name their favorites, & they rattle off every last track the band recorded in that era.

Well, that's no different than Rumours era fans...especially the Chiffonheads...they rattle off every damned Stevie Nicks tune, whether it's listenable or not.
:lol:

SteveMacD 11-11-2008 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Almost Simon (Post 783778)
I guess you could have a few live tracks but then you'd be duplicating studio tracks on the same compilation.

Not necessarily. They could put stuff like Get Like You Used To Be and I'd Rather Go Blind on there, as well as some interesting versions of Peter Green songs (especially The Green Manalishi).

But, really, I have no real issue with duplication. Songs like Believe Me have live versions that warrent inclusion. The live version with Weston (from Midnight Special) had the greatest ending ever, and the 1974 Record Plant version is pure Power Pop at its finest. Spare Me A Little Of Your Love from 1972 with Danny is killer. And, Bob's musings on Future Games and/or Bermuda Triangle would be worth it, too. The studio albums are great, but they don't really capture the personality of this era, which is why the live recordings are so essential.

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Originally Posted by Almost Simon (Post 783778)
Are there that many live professionally recorded concerts from the 1971-1974 era??

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 783790)
We don't know...that's the point. (Of course, there are a few of 1974, but earlier than that? :shrug: )

Well, there's the Seattle '72 set that was on radio. I'm sure there's a master of that somewhere. (If not, they could always use Pro Tools to work audio magic.)

I'd also be curious if there are any rehearsal tapes out there, similar to the Madison Blues stuff from this era.

And for crying out loud, we need the Fleetwood Mac version of Good Things.

Neb-Maat-Re 11-11-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 783791)
every damned Stevie Nicks tune, whether it's listenable or not.

You mean there are...no, wait, I'll remain silent on that point.

Neb-Maat-Re 11-11-2008 04:35 PM

Am I the only one who would include Forever?

I love that Afro-rock feel that pre-dates all those '80s "let's got to Africa and make an album" albums like Paul Simon and that other bloke, big tall English guy, what's-his-name?

(David Essex did one too, not that anyone noticed).

SteveMacD 11-11-2008 05:19 PM

Not a big fan of Forever, namely because of the drum machine.

nicepace 11-11-2008 06:16 PM

I would include "Homeward Bound" on a Welch-era compilation. (I'd include it on a compilation of all of Fleetwood Mac, for that matter.) I absolutely love the piano on that song and how it is really a lead instrument, along with the guitar. I wish there were more like that, with Chris playing her keyboards as a lead instrument. I also think the song itself is superb. It has such emotional honesty and clarity, just as much as, or even more than, some of her better-known love songs.

Of course, the Welch era being my favorite era of the band, I would find it hard to get rid of most of the songs. The only songs I could drop easily are the two Dave Walker songs, which I skip anyway when I listen to the 'Penguin' album.

nicepace 11-11-2008 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Neb-Maat-Re (Post 783948)
You mean there are...no, wait, I'll remain silent on that point.

Oh, c'mon, say what you're thinking ... the Nicksfans aren't reading a thread with the title "Bob Welch-era compilation." It has nothing for them. (lol)

And I agree about "Forever" .... great tune.

michelej1 11-11-2008 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 783963)
Oh, c'mon, say what you're thinking ... the Nicksfans aren't reading a thread with the title "Bob Welch-era compilation." It has nothing for them. (lol)

Oh, there's a little something: the Welch and Nicks worlds have collided once or twice.


Michele

nicepace 11-11-2008 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 783971)
Oh, there's a little something: the Welch and Nicks worlds have collided once or twice.

True ... with very excellent results, I might add.

Wouter Vuijk 11-11-2008 08:55 PM

Neb-Maat-Re
Addicted Ledgie

Am I the only one who would include Forever?

I love that Afro-rock feel that pre-dates all those '80s "let's got to Africa and make an album" albums like Paul Simon and that other bloke, big tall English guy, what's-his-name?

(David Essex did one too, not that anyone noticed).
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 783962)
I would include "Homeward Bound" on a Welch-era compilation. (I'd include it on a compilation of all of Fleetwood Mac, for that matter.) I absolutely love the piano on that song and how it is really a lead instrument, along with the guitar. I wish there were more like that, with Chris playing her keyboards as a lead instrument. I also think the song itself is superb. It has such emotional honesty and clarity, just as much as, or even more than, some of her better-known love songs.

I remember way back that I really loved Paul Simon (and Art Garfunkel) on "Homeward Bound".
:sorry:

Moz 11-11-2008 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 783963)
Oh, c'mon, say what you're thinking ... the Nicksfans aren't reading a thread with the title "Bob Welch-era compilation." It has nothing for them. (lol)

Hey, some Stevie fans are fans of pre-1975 Mac. Not very many, but there's a select few. :shrug:

snoot 12-07-2008 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Moz (Post 783987)
Hey, some Stevie fans are fans of pre-1975 Mac. Not very many, but there's a select few. :shrug:

Ha more than you know. All it takes is for most to sit down and listen to the pre-1975 Mac and they convert, surprisingly quickly. :p * truth *

PS. I appreciate all three eras, as opposed to one or another, so I triple my pleasure and triple my fun. :thumbsup:

Madelow 01-03-2009 11:52 PM

Hello SteveMacD-- I believe I'm in agreement with you. Although I enjoy Christine's Welch-era music, her songwriting and singing both improved after Linds & Stevie joined the band. Still can't figure out if it's the songs themselves, or the arrangement and production values. But, you can certainly hear the difference, beginning with"Warm Ways" on the White Album. Don't get me wrong, there are some wonderful Christine songs pre-Rumours, but the majority of her best work is clearly during the Buckingham-Nicks time. Just my humble opinion, of course.:wavey: Best always, Madelow.


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