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secret love 05-18-2018 04:37 PM

Sheryl Crow
 
Doesn't Sheryl Crow look appealing now that we've got Neil Finn and Mike Campbell instead?
Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Lindsey Buckingham, Stevie Nicks and Sheryl Crow (pre Christine)
OR
Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Stevie Nicks and Sheryl Crow OR Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Stevie Nicks, Sheryl Crow and Neil Finn (post Buckingham split)
Do you think they even considered bringing in a female? It didn't have to be Sheryl Crow if they did but equality would have been nice - three men and three women - and with Neil (piano) and Sheryl (guitar, bass, piano) it's two for one, they sing and they play an instrument!



Bet Stevie plays this while she's having fun dancing around her apartment!

Kyle 05-18-2018 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1228372)
Doesn't Sheryl Crow look appealing now that we've got Neil Finn and Mike Campbell instead?
Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Lindsey Buckingham, Stevie Nicks and Sheryl Crow (pre Christine)
OR
Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Stevie Nicks and Sheryl Crow OR Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Stevie Nicks, Sheryl Crow and Neil Finn (post Buckingham split)
Do you think they even considered bringing in a female? It didn't have to be Sheryl Crow if they did but equality would have been nice - three men and three women - and with Neil (piano) and Sheryl (guitar, bass, piano) it's two for one, they sing and they play an instrument!



Bet Stevie plays this while she's having fun dancing around her apartment!

I think Sheryl Crow would be a great addition to the current line up. Susanna Hoffs would also be interesting.

secret love 05-18-2018 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 1228373)
I think Sheryl Crow would be a great addition to the current line up. Susanna Hoffs would also be interesting.

Watch this:
https://www.stereogum.com/1784616/wa...oke-bar/video/
I think Susanna's voice is closer to Stevie's, whereas Sheryl's is a little different, but I believe all three are contraltos.
Seriously though, if you have to bring in two new people, shouldn't one be a woman?

Kyle 05-18-2018 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1228374)
Watch this:
https://www.stereogum.com/1784616/wa...oke-bar/video/
I think Susanna's voice is closer to Stevie's, whereas Sheryl's is a little different, but I believe all three are contraltos.
Seriously though, if you have to bring in two new people, shouldn't one be a woman?

I think Sheryl Crow should definitely be brought it. This is, most likely, a farewell tour. Why not go out with a bang?

I would absolutely detest "Eternal Flame" if anyone other than Susanna Hoffs sang it. I would love seeing Susanna join FM, but my first choice would definitely be Sheryl Crow.

ryan4136 05-18-2018 05:22 PM

I think a Buckingham/Crow album would be great. Maybe a remake of Cryin in the Night

gldstwmn 05-18-2018 05:24 PM

If some are to be believed then this could actually happen. :shrug:

dreamsunwind 05-18-2018 05:31 PM

If the rumours about Christine are true then this might actually happen LMAO.

dreamsunwind 05-18-2018 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn (Post 1228381)
If some are to be believed then this could actually happen. :shrug:

I was thinking the same thing :laugh:
No Lindsey to say "absolutely not" and possibly no Christine either :laugh:

jwd 05-18-2018 05:37 PM

Bring in a few more people and they could call it Mick's All Star Band, ala Ringo.....

Kyle 05-18-2018 06:15 PM

How about Shania Twain? My first choice is still Sheryl Crow.

Lindsey who?

Kyle 05-18-2018 06:32 PM

If I recall correctly, Mick saw Sheryl Crow performing in a bar in the early 90's. He asked her go join him at his table. He told her that she reminded him of Stevie Nicks. Imagine how history might have changed, if Mick had asked Sheryl to join Fleetwood Mac.

Storms123 05-18-2018 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jwd (Post 1228385)
Bring in a few more people and they could call it Mick's All Star Band, ala Ringo.....

Why don't they just get all of the people who sang at the Musicares event, leave Mick, John, Stevie, Chris and the ringers home, and call it Fleetwood Mac. Clearly from Mick's perspective, it's the songs that make the band not the people who sing them. I am sure people would LOVE to hear Lorde slay the hell out of "Silver Springs" again.:D

Kyle 05-18-2018 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1228396)
Why don't they just get all of the people who sang at the Musicares event, leave Mick, John, Stevie, Chris and the ringers home, and call it Fleetwood Mac. Clearly from Mick's perspective, it's the songs that make the band not the people who sing them. I am sure people would LOVE to hear Lorde slay the hell out of "Silver Springs" again.:D

Or, we could just get all the people from FM, who don't beat women, together and call it Fleetwood Mac. Oh wait. We've already done that. Problem solved.

jwd 05-18-2018 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1228396)
Why don't they just get all of the people who sang at the Musicares event, leave Mick, John, Stevie, Chris and the ringers home, and call it Fleetwood Mac. Clearly from Mick's perspective, it's the songs that make the band not the people who sing them. I am sure people would LOVE to hear Lorde slay the hell out of "Silver Springs" again.:D

I think Mick and Stevie had a secret deal with Harry Styles. They ditched Lindsey and then Harry ditched them. Oh the karma of it all.

Storms123 05-18-2018 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 1228397)
Or, we could just get all the people from FM, who don't beat women, together and call it Fleetwood Mac. Oh wait. We've already done that. Problem solved.

Wow, was that really necessary. Off base

Storms123 05-18-2018 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jwd (Post 1228398)
I think Mick and Stevie had a secret deal with Harry Styles. They ditched Lindsey and then Harry ditched them. Oh the karma of it all.

You know--it's really funny you say that....Maybe not so far fetched.

elle 05-18-2018 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1228401)
You know--it's really funny you say that....Maybe not so far fetched.

except Harry can fill stadiums solo. i'm sure his management (Azoff) would not let him waste that pulling power on FM. :wavey:

Storms123 05-18-2018 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1228404)
except Harry can fill stadiums solo. i'm sure his management (Azoff) would not let him waste that pulling power on FM. :wavey:

Wow--didn't realize Azoff managed him too---explains even more now :)

jwd 05-18-2018 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1228404)
except Harry can fill stadiums solo. i'm sure his management (Azoff) would not let him waste that pulling power on FM. :wavey:

Ha, I didn't know that. What a coincidence! Yeah, I'm sure all the crazy, fanatical, screaming teenage girls wouldn't want to see Mick and his drooping balls...... :D

Fannymac 05-18-2018 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamsunwind (Post 1228382)
If the rumours about Christine are true then this might actually happen LMAO.

What rumors about Christine??

dreamsunwind 05-18-2018 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fannymac (Post 1228418)
What rumors about Christine??

People on Stevie Nicks Facebook groups are arguing about it. Someone with 'sources' is claiming that their sources told them Christine is backing away and on her way out. Someone else with 'sources' is saying that's not true. Others are saying she's trying, etc.

dreamsunwind 05-18-2018 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1228400)
Wow, was that really necessary. Off base

Always completely unnecessary, inappropriate and disrespectful to the seriousness of such topics.

Storms123 05-18-2018 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamsunwind (Post 1228420)
Always completely unnecessary, inappropriate and disrespectful to the seriousness of such topics.

And my comment wasn't even that "serious" which I was all the more perplexed. Oh well--to each is own :)

gldstwmn 05-18-2018 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fannymac (Post 1228418)
What rumors about Christine??

There was a blind item on a gossip site suggesting that Chris was getting ready to make her exit.

Kyle 05-19-2018 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1228400)
Wow, was that really necessary. Off base

How is that off base? They fired the man who beats women. There is a little bit of justice in the world. Shouldn't everyone be happy?

dreamsunwind 05-19-2018 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 1228480)
How is that off base? They fired the man who beats women. There is a little bit of justice in the world. Shouldn't everyone be happy?

The fact that you think band politics of decades later serves as a "justice" for domestic violence is appalling and disturbing.
And if that's your logic, then there's a bit of trouble considering that John's still in the band. Even though he, ya know, chased Christine down with an axe :angel:

Storms123 05-19-2018 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamsunwind (Post 1228482)
The fact that you think band politics of decades later serves as a "justice" for domestic violence is appalling and disturbing.
And if that's your logic, then there's a bit of trouble considering that John's still in the band. Even though he, ya know, chased Christine down with an axe :angel:

Totally agree dreamsunwind, and furthermore Stevie went after Lindsey--she even admits it, actually said she was going to "kill him" and actually defended Lindsey after one of Mick's many fairy tails was published and highlighted one of the incidents that is oft referred to here. . Based upon your assessment, most of this band should be thrown out....so yes, I would say you are way off base here.

Kyle 05-19-2018 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1228486)
Totally agree dreamsunwind, and furthermore Stevie went after Lindsey--she even admits it, actually said she was going to "kill him" and actually defended Lindsey after one of Mick's many fairy tails was published and highlighted one of the incidents that is oft referred to here. . Based upon your assessment, most of this band should be thrown out....so yes, I would say you are way off base here.

I'm not talking about Stevie's fantasies. I'm referring to Carol Ann Harris and the waitress Lindsey beat up in Ken Caillat's book.

In his blog, Ken Caillat says that he saw Lindsey rough up several women.

I suppose your crush on Lindsey is more important than the women he brutalized.

Storms123 05-19-2018 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 1228487)
I'm not talking about Stevie's fantasies. I'm referring to Carol Ann Harris and the waitress Lindsey beat up in Ken Caillat's book.

In his blog, Ken Caillat says that he saw Lindsey rough up several women.

I suppose your crush on Lindsey is more important than the women he brutalized.

Wow, and once again, you are off base. Go look through some of my other posts. I am pretty clear that I am a fan of the band. How condescending and myopic of you to imply a "crush" blinding my views. My views are not blinded at all. The band...all of them misstepped here. We can all debate, why, what happened...., but at the end of the day, these 5 people came undone. I am a fan of these 5 people together as a cohesive unit making music. End of it.

dreamsunwind 05-19-2018 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 1228487)
I'm not talking about Stevie's fantasies. I'm referring to Carol Ann Harris and the waitress Lindsey beat up in Ken Caillat's book.

In his blog, Ken Caillat says that he saw Lindsey rough up several women.

I suppose your crush on Lindsey is more important than the women he brutalized.

You're assuming that someone thinking your comments are inappropriate means they have a crush on Lindsey? Lol. If you cared about the treatment of women you wouldn't toss the situation around as if it's a bargaining chip in the ridiculous dramatics of bitching band members decades later.
And it doesn't matter who you're referring to. Everyone here knows the stories about Lindsey, it's not a secret to anyone. I talked about this before in a post recently and I don't want to regurgitate it, but to sum things up: Lindsey's behavior back then should never be condoned if you want to dislike him because of it that's perfectly fine.
But this argument that some people on here keep making that "Lindsey did this!" --therefore he's pure evil and thus what's gone on here, with very questionable behavior from the other band members, it all doesn't matter because he did that--- is absolutely ridiculous for a number of factors. The first being that the 70s and 80s are basically a different universe from the one we are currently living in. Lindsey has been married for almost 20 years and has 3 kids, John has also seemingly long since sorted out his alcohol problems, Stevie has handled her addictions, Mick is no longer a complete trainwreck, etc. There's also the fact that Lindsey was likely not the only band member who exhibited such behavior, so if you think someone deserves to be fired for that decades later, then why is John McVie still in the band? And those who make this argument conveniently only seem to care about Lindsey's behavior in this current situation, when they're trying to somehow justify what's happened. It certainly didn't bother you enough to stop you from listening to their music, presumably buying their music, going to their concerts etc.
You can think whatever you want about Lindsey, that's completely fine. But do not conveniently toss around domestic violence as if it's just some claim you can casually make when arguing about bitchy band members. That is a disrespect to the seriousness of the topic and people who have suffered it.

louielouie2000 05-19-2018 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 1228487)
I'm not talking about Stevie's fantasies. I'm referring to Carol Ann Harris and the waitress Lindsey beat up in Ken Caillat's book.

In his blog, Ken Caillat says that he saw Lindsey rough up several women.

I suppose your crush on Lindsey is more important than the women he brutalized.

Let’s not pretend Stevie was morally pure during her drug fueled height, either. She forced an assistant to take the drugs she was sure were killing her. She carried on several affairs with married men. She had 4 abortions. She did so much cocaine it nearly caused her to have a brain aneurism; so she had someone administer her fix anally. She’s pushed away everyone from her early days of fame who helped her get to where she is- several died penniless and broken such as Judy Wong, Herbert Worthington, and Bob Welch. I’m not even going to bring up the Kim Anderson thing, because that could be just grief... though I have my doubts.

My point being, instant fame, fortune, and hardcore drugs made everyone in the band behave poorly. Another thing to consider is so many of the accusations against everyone in the band are pretty much impossible to prove, too. So for any of us to judge them on alleged accusations from 4 decades ago seems a little ridiculous.

Oh, and nobody can accuse me of being a blind Lindsey fanboy, either. Stevie has ALWAYS been my fav band member. I’ve just found her behavior over the past 10 years so appalling that I can’t stand her anymore.

iamnotafraid 05-19-2018 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 1228397)
Or, we could just get all the people from FM, who don't beat women, together and call it Fleetwood Mac. that...

My question is if Lindsey beat a woman in a forest
and no one was around to see it, then did it really
happen?

HomerMcvie 05-20-2018 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1228500)
Let’s not pretend Stevie was morally pure during her drug fueled height, either. She forced an assistant to take the drugs she was sure were killing her. She carried on several affairs with married men. She had 4 abortions. She did so much cocaine it nearly caused her to have a brain aneurism; so she had someone administer her fix anally. She’s pushed away everyone from her early days of fame who helped her get to where she is- several died penniless and broken such as Judy Wong, Herbert Worthington, and Bob Welch. I’m not even going to bring up the Kim Anderson thing, because that could be just grief... though I have my doubts.

My point being, instant fame, fortune, and hardcore drugs made everyone in the band behave poorly. Another thing to consider is so many of the accusations against everyone in the band are pretty much impossible to prove, too. So for any of us to judge them on alleged accusations from 4 decades ago seems a little ridiculous.

Oh, and nobody can accuse me of being a blind Lindsey fanboy, either. Stevie has ALWAYS been my fav band member. I’ve just found her behavior over the past 10 years so appalling that I can’t stand her anymore.

FOUR abortions? Wow, I only knew about one. So she's more than a baby killer. She's a serial baby murderer!:eek:

I always hated that she murdered Don Henley's baby. That could have been one beautiful child, with both their DNA!

mitzo 05-20-2018 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1228504)
FOUR abortions? Wow, I only knew about one. So she's more than a baby killer. She's a serial baby murderer!:eek:

I always hated that she murdered Don Henley's baby. That could have been one beautiful child, with both their DNA!

We have officially hit rock bottom here. WTF.

dontlookdown 05-20-2018 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1228372)
Doesn't Sheryl Crow look appealing now that we've got Neil Finn and Mike Campbell instead?
Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Lindsey Buckingham, Stevie Nicks and Sheryl Crow (pre Christine)
OR
Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Stevie Nicks and Sheryl Crow OR Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Stevie Nicks, Sheryl Crow and Neil Finn (post Buckingham split)
Do you think they even considered bringing in a female? It didn't have to be Sheryl Crow if they did but equality would have been nice - three men and three women - and with Neil (piano) and Sheryl (guitar, bass, piano) it's two for one, they sing and they play an instrument!



Bet Stevie plays this while she's having fun dancing around her apartment!

No, No with a dash of No on top. Garnished with a twist of No.
Sheryl Crow is great at what she does, but FM is in a whole different league.
Her singing is average and often shrill and her writing is mediocre and often rote.
Musically she’s about as derivative as one could be.

I’m not sure I know of a greater guitar player (for a big white mainstream rock act) than Mike Campbell. And he’s a superb songwriter.

dontlookdown 05-20-2018 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1228500)
Let’s not pretend Stevie was morally pure during her drug fueled height, either. She forced an assistant to take the drugs she was sure were killing her. She carried on several affairs with married men. She had 4 abortions. She did so much cocaine it nearly caused her to have a brain aneurism; so she had someone administer her fix anally. She’s pushed away everyone from her early days of fame who helped her get to where she is- several died penniless and broken such as Judy Wong, Herbert Worthington, and Bob Welch. I’m not even going to bring up the Kim Anderson thing, because that could be just grief... though I have my doubts.

My point being, instant fame, fortune, and hardcore drugs made everyone in the band behave poorly. Another thing to consider is so many of the accusations against everyone in the band are pretty much impossible to prove, too. So for any of us to judge them on alleged accusations from 4 decades ago seems a little ridiculous.

Oh, and nobody can accuse me of being a blind Lindsey fanboy, either. Stevie has ALWAYS been my fav band member. I’ve just found her behavior over the past 10 years so appalling that I can’t stand her anymore.


Ew. I think I’m done here too.
If anyone has some FM boards/sites that aren’t populated with creepy national enquirer-reading conservatives, let me know.
I’m out.

Peace.

louielouie2000 05-20-2018 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dontlookdown (Post 1228520)
Ew. I think I’m done here too.
If anyone has some FM boards/sites that aren’t populated with creepy national enquirer-reading conservatives, let me know.
I’m out.

Peace.

Trust me, I’m as liberal as they come. I’m just saying if people are going to egg Lindsey for his behavior 3 decades ago, let’s not pretend Stevie was any angel, either. I couldn’t give a damn what any of them did back in the day... I just care what they’ve done to the band’s legacy this century.

bwboy 05-20-2018 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dontlookdown (Post 1228520)
Ew. I think I’m done here too.
If anyone has some FM boards/sites that aren’t populated with creepy national enquirer-reading conservatives, let me know.
I’m out.

Peace.

Yeah, me too. Abortions, drug abuse, Hitler- no, not talking about the band, I'm talking about Homer McVie. Count on Homer McVie to randomly throw out the fact that Stevie had abortions and how that makes her a murderer. Of course Homer hates Stevie more than Hitler, so I guess he hates Jews. Oh, that's right, he's joking. Well, he can say things like that without being banned. Homer hates Stevie more than Hitler. He said it, and it's ok because he doesn't say that about other posters. See, here at the Ledge, name calling is ok if it's directed at the band members, it's just not ok if it's directed at other posters. So it's ok for Homer to talk about how abortion is murder. I've heard rumours that Stevie has had lesbian affairs. Tell us, Homer, does that make Stevie a sinner for having lesbian sex? Is Stevie going to hell for killing her baby, Homer? I guess you think all women who have abortions are murderers, Homer, including women here on the Ledge? Homer, please continue to tell us what's moral, please.

HomerMcvie 05-20-2018 03:44 PM

You would probably never guess it, but I'm 100% pro choice.

Abortion is a very hot button issue for many people, fan or not, so what's wrong with pointing out the facts? And I had no idea she'd had more than one abortion. But if I bring facts to the table, be able to accept it, whether you like it or not.

And the Hitler thing was a joke, so get over it. And yourself, bw.

button-lip 05-20-2018 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1228521)
Trust me, I’m as liberal as they come. I’m just saying if people are going to egg Lindsey for his behavior 3 decades ago, let’s not pretend Stevie was any angel, either. I couldn’t give a damn what any of them did back in the day... I just care what they’ve done to the band’s legacy this century.

Please, it’s ok to talk about Lindsey’s abusive past and to include his daughters in the convo, but don’t touch sweet Stevie, whose four little angel babies were miraculously taken away from her by the sinister stork who wanted them back.

I’m out of here. :laugh::laugh:


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