Which Album Do You Prefer? BTM or Time
So, both of these albums came after the band kind of broke up and or, Lindsey left. Which on do you prefer and feel free to discuss???:nod:
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I think "Time" is a fine album. BTM is kinda patchy, and partly rubbish, but that's just my humble op :)
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"Time" because it has better production.
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Behind the Mask
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Close call. Love 'em both very much, but I have to go with Time because:
A) There isn't a single song on it that I dislike (as opposed to Behind the Mask and its inclusion of "The Second Time"). B) It has Bekka Bramlett on it. |
'Time' definitely has better production, but I think the songs on 'Behind The Mask' are far more memorable.
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I love Time, sans These Strange Times. Bekka's songs are fantastic.
BTM is very good, as well. I'm not fond of Vito's songs, though. |
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Definately Time, there are way more bad songs on Behind the Mask.
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I like them both about equally.
Behind The Mask: Upside:"In The Back Of My Mind", "When The Sun Goes Down", Rick Vito & Billy Burnette Downside: the muddy mix & "The Second Time" Time: Upside: "Winds Of Change", "These Strange Times" & "Nights In Estoril" Downside: the tracking order, only two Billy Burnette tunes |
I find myself listening to Behind the Mask more than Tusk and Mirage. Love it!
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I voted BTM, I don't listen Time often, the album didn't catch me. |
BTM. I don't even have Time!! :shrug:
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I voted for Time, mainly because of the production problems with BTM. It sounds sludgy. I also like Bekka's songs on Time ALOT better than Stevie's songs on BTM. The Behind The Mask title track is my favorite song on either album though.
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BTM!
Didn't really give Time the time of day... no pun intended. No Christine, no Stevie, no interest... might have to revisit though. I did see this incarnation of the band open for CSN at Red Rocks.... |
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Time's a pretty good album. And yeah, BTM sounds like crap. Whoever mastered that album needs to go reclaim their job at Burger King! |
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I voted for BTM because, as many have said although the production is a bit dodgy, the songs are quite good. Time has some good songs on it but I cannot stand These Strange Times and also what the hell was Dave Mason doing on a FM album? Fleetwood Mac should be a five piece band with no Daves! Gail |
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Bekka is a great singer(way better than you know who!), and had this lineup been given a chance, I think they really could've amounted to something. There ARE just too many people who wouldn't give ANYONE a chance in those shoes. (IMO):shocked: |
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For starters, there was too much similarity to Stevie - so it came off like she was a cheap replacement. Secondly, she didn't write her own songs, she doesn't play any instruments - what does she really bring to the band apart from her looks and her voice :shrug: And I don't like any other woman for FM apart from Stevie and Christine - another personal opinion. |
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Having a chick in the band has been a part of Fleetwood Mac's identity since 1970. With Christine retired from the road and Stevie out of the band, it created the need for another female. So she didn't write songs. Lots of singers don't write their own songs. I don't believe Janis Joplin was a songwriter. I know her most popular songs were penned by others. Yet Stevie fans don't diminish the worth of Janis like they do Bekka. Where people make the mistake with Bekka is comparing her to Stevie. Christine is a much nicer comparison. Christine was a good keyboardist when she joined, but her singing and songwriting paled in comparison to her later work. She DEVELOPED into the Christine McVie that wrote a butt load of hit songs. If "Future Games" was all we knew of Christine, we'd like her, but wouldn't be utterly in awe/blown away by her, especially when put up against Peter Green just a year and change earlier. |
^^^What.he.said.too.
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As far as Dave Mason goes, just remember, when he joined the band, there were no other guitarists. So, really, Billy Burnette coming back to the group may be partially responsible for why it didn't work. I'm not blaming Billy. It's just that the vision Mick had when putting the group together changed after Billy came back, since it became very clear in a short period of time that there was a chemistry between Bekka and Billy. If he hadn't left the band, they might have realized fairly quickly that there was something between Bekka and Billy, gotten a lead guitarist who didn't sing (i.e. Greg Wright) and focus on the Bekka-Billy dynamic a bit more.
Still, with no guitarists or male vocalists, Dave Mason, especially considering his past AOR creds and his history with the Bramlett family, was a fairly obvious choice at the time. Billy's return pretty much negated the value of having Dave in the band. |
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On your other point, I don't see how apart from the touring aspect, why another female was necessary for FM. They could get away with replacing guitarists, because FM needs a guitarist - but replacing either two females, like it or not, who were the main focal point of the band, would never work... |
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I think your logic in this is just skewed, insanely skewed. If Fleetwood Mac would've just packed it in when Peter Green left, then we wouldn't have all this "Stevie/Bekka" bull****...because we all know that Fleetwood Mac, for all intents, was just crap once Peter left. Yes, there was a bucketload of sarcasm in my last comment. |
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Sheer technical ability alone is never enough to succeed in rock music. I'm sure there are many more technically gifted keyboard players than Christine but what she does (sorry did) with Fleetwood Mac was perfect (pun intended). Gail |
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My point is what Gail said above - Bekka was always going to come across as a cheap knock-off of Stevie, and the general public I doubt would have ever bought into it :shrug: |
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I guess we'll have to agree to acknowledge we are diametrically opposed on this topic. |
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I prefer Time. BTM is, as everyone else has said, badly produced...the music sounds muddy and generic.
Here are my thoughts on Time. I love all the songs except David Mason's. Some good reasons were explained above as to why he ended up with the band, but in terms of new directions, his presence seems odd at best. I love Christine's songs on Time but I think, oddly, Time would have been better if she had taken them and completed a solo album...Having just Becka and Billy would have established a core sound. Christine's songs--as fine as they are--don't really sit well alongside theirs. (Don't shoot me.) Besides, any opportunity for a full Chris solo album would have been awesome... |
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Yes, the music on BTM album sounds muddy and generic, but i think that it´s good thing! For example on SYW album are songs very similar.
And because on Time album aren´t Stevie´s voice I can´t vote for it. But it´s true that I love Nights In Estoril... great song!!!!:blob2: |
BTM is my preferred album, all the way down to the art design. Love it, epecially the album cover. Love the overall sound and songs especially the title track, WTSGD and Stand On The Rock, which was great live too.
Time is decent, not great though and they were really trying way too hard to salvage Stevie not being there. I prefer bekka with The Zoo/Shaking The Cage. They really didn't need another female vocalist. This album is a bit cream puff and Mason tracks are terrible. C'mon, Blow by Blow is just that. It blows. |
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