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elle 11-13-2014 09:03 AM

Nicks says she doesn't know whether she'll ever be on board with new FM album
 
not sure when exactly she was interviewed, but if it was during a week FM was on their break before Canada, then this is probably the most current thinking:

http://www.fleetwoodmacnews.com/2014...od+Mac+News%29

http://abcnewsradioonline.com/music-...bum-while.html

relevant excerpt -


They'll have to be, considering the Fleetwood Mac world tour will stretch far into 2015. That's why Stevie says she can't say right now if she'll join the rest of the band in the studio to record a new album, as Mick Fleetwood says he hopes she will in his new autobiography.

"I don't know, because nothing can be done on that until we're done, and we have another seventy shows until this American tour is done, then we have Australia, then we have Europe. This isn't gonna be done until this time next year," Stevie tells ABC News Radio about the prospect of a new Mac album. "So, I don't know how I'm gonna feel in a year."

"I don't know whether I'm gonna wanna go back to my own thing or whether I'm gonna wanna sign up for another year of making a record," she adds. "I don't really know what I'm gonna wanna do then."

Fleetwood Mac is currently on tour in Canada. They'll return to the U.S. next week but have dates scheduled in North America through March.

pattyfan 11-13-2014 09:18 AM

my 2 cents...

1. It must be weird for the rest of FM to be touring with her and I assume be really excited about the music that Chris and Lindsey have already recorded and not be able to get a commitment from her about a new FM record. I can only imagine that they are frustrated, especially since Stevie always used to sound so nostalgic for the days that Chris was still in the band. I was assuming that once Chris came back, Stevie would be really excited about that too, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

2. Can they not just go in the studio and get a record done in 2 months? They have a large percentage of it done already.

3. Could it be that Stevie doesn't have any new songs, doesn't write with Lindsey or Chris, and for whatever reason doesn't feel OK with just saying that? If that's the case, why not pick a few of her old songs that didn't make it on to 24 Karat Gold?

4. I really really really want a new FM CD with all of them on it. I'm curious as to what will happen if Chris and Lindsey do want a new CD with their songs and Stevie doesn't want to add anything. Would they release a new CD without and songs with Stevie on lead vocals? Or without Stevie at all?

5. The drama with FM never stops, does it? :lol:

Kevin

FM77 11-13-2014 09:31 AM

There you have it. This has been her sentiment since this tour was planned last fall. I was bummed when she said it then but figured she would changer her mind eventually. Nope. It has zero to do with her not having songs.

tango87 11-13-2014 09:36 AM

Crazy. Who knows what her reasons are, but why tour if she won't record? If she doesn't want to do it, Lindsey and Christine should just finish it without her.

RockawayBlind 11-13-2014 09:39 AM

The band should just give her an ultimatum at the end of the tour: You're in or you're out, but we are going ahead with an album. I'll bet she get in the studio in a hurry then.

olive 11-13-2014 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tango87 (Post 1153231)
Crazy. Who knows what her reasons are, but why tourr.

???????????? MONEY ???????????? her 2nd favorite thing to talk about

nicole21290 11-13-2014 09:48 AM

*Cough* Australia? *Cough*

As for the rest, yawn. Can't even make myself even a little worked up over it at this stage, honestly. It is what it is.

Richard B 11-13-2014 09:54 AM

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"I don't know, because nothing can be done on that until we're done, and we have another seventy shows until this American tour is done, then we have Australia, then we have Europe. This isn't gonna be done until this time next year," Stevie tells ABC News Radio about the prospect of a new Mac album. "So, I don't know how I'm gonna feel in a year."
So this tour will go into October/November of 2015?
Am I reading this correctly? If true, I guess far more dates will be announced. I suppose a second leg of the west coast will also happen.

Angie1980 11-13-2014 09:57 AM

I am a frequent reader but very seldom post anything because it seems like posts from "new fans" or new members are not to be commented on.

Anyhow....and if anything I will probably get bashed for this but I admire her for being honest about not being on board for a new record and not knowing if she ever will be, instead of giving promises and do things that perhaps she knows will not make her happy and do it just out of duty and not with her heart in the right place.

She commited to a new, quite extensive tour with FM right after getting back from a huge tour - jumping on a new tour that NEVER would have happened if it weren't for Christine returning. So even if it has been Stevie's dream to have Chris back why should she feel obliged to commit to everything that the rest of them wants just because Chris is back???

If it means a new FM record without Stevie so be it. Go Stevie!! Considering how loyal she has been to Fm (that's my opinion) over the years I think she has the right to do what ever makes her happy at this stage in her life, especially since there seem to be so many things that she would still like to do the next ten years.

That was my 2 cents I guess...... now going back to my "only reading not posting" state of mind....

jbrownsjr 11-13-2014 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by nicole21290 (Post 1153236)
*Cough* Australia? *Cough*

As for the rest, yawn. Can't even make myself even a little worked up over it at this stage, honestly. It is what it is.

I'm so glad to hear they are coming to Australia.

sue 11-13-2014 10:02 AM

Well, I'm kind of with her on this.
They are all nearing 70 and touring must be tiring plus they've got at least another 6/7 months of it.
They can't tour and make records as far as she sees it.....they made the decision to tour first, so the Album will have to wait.

elle 11-13-2014 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard B (Post 1153237)
So this tour will go into October/November of 2015?
Am I reading this correctly? If true, I guess far more dates will be announced. I suppose a second leg of the west coast will also happen.

if true, yes.

which also mean that FM77's info about tour ending in June 2015 is old info, not currently true anymore.

it's also funny how SN thinks that her 3-4 songs will need a year to record while 15 or so already recorded (with 8 practically finished) needed only 2.5 months.

elle 11-13-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1153241)
They can't tour and make records as far as she sees it.....they made the decision to tour first, so the Album will have to wait.

yes, she seems in for the money grab, but not for creative endeavors.

elle 11-13-2014 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by nicole21290 (Post 1153236)
*Cough* Australia? *Cough*

yes happy for you and all my Aussie friends, that this seems to be finally confirmed! :thumbsup:

nicole21290 11-13-2014 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1153244)
yes happy for you and all my Aussie friends, that this seems to be finally confirmed! :thumbsup:

Would've been happier if it was last year's tour at last year's prices but I'll take what I can get, lol. ;)

jkmaletic 11-13-2014 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Angie1980 (Post 1153239)
I am a frequent reader but very seldom post anything because it seems like posts from "new fans" or new members are not to be commented on.

Anyhow....and if anything I will probably get bashed for this but I admire her for being honest about not being on board for a new record and not knowing if she ever will be, instead of giving promises and do things that perhaps she knows will not make her happy and do it just out of duty and not with her heart in the right place.

She commited to a new, quite extensive tour with FM right after getting back from a huge tour - jumping on a new tour that NEVER would have happened if it weren't for Christine returning. So even if it has been Stevie's dream to have Chris back why should she feel obliged to commit to everything that the rest of them wants just because Chris is back???

If it means a new FM record without Stevie so be it. Go Stevie!! Considering how loyal she has been to Fm (that's my opinion) over the years I think she has the right to do what ever myakes her happy at this stage in her life, especially since there seem to be so many things that she would still like to do the next ten years.

That was my 2 cents I guess...... now going back to my "only reading not posting" state of mind....

Well, "New Poster", I agree with everything you posted here, and not just for my own selfish reasons. She did make a record recently, and she does have to promote it at some point, otherwise it'll be too late. She may as well throw 24 Karat Gold right into the garbage can. I'm glad she was honest. Of course after this whole things done, she could change her mind once again. Who knows. As far as her doing the two or just for a money grab, I think you could maybe accuse all of them of that.

Jamie

(sorry about the typos on the original post - stupid phone)

Richard B 11-13-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jkmaletic (Post 1153247)
She did make a record recently, and she does have to promote it at some point, otherwise it'll be too late. She may as well throw 24 karat gold right into the garbage can.

Too late. The album will never get any farther than it already has, promotion/tours or not. Sorry to say that, but that's just the reality.

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Originally Posted by elle
it's also funny how SN thinks that her 3-4 songs will need a year to record while 15 or so already recorded (with 8 practically finished) needed only 2.5 months.

I know, right! Very amusing.

jkmaletic 11-13-2014 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard B (Post 1153248)
Too late. The album will never get any farther than it already has, promotion/tours or not. Sorry to say that, but that's just the reality.



I know, right! Very amusing.

LOL- How do you know? You have a crystal ball or something??:rolleyes:

Stevie obviously thinks it will take longer than 2.5 months, OR maybe the band will want to rest, and NOT record during their breaks. :shrug:

Jamie

Richard B 11-13-2014 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jkmaletic (Post 1153249)
LOL- How do you know? You have a crystal ball or something??:rolleyes:

No, just good business sense.
So go ahead and keep rolling your eyes.

Macfanforever 11-13-2014 11:31 AM

Cash grab.She needs the cash to pay the bills .Things are not cheap today.I went to Walmart and picked up some food and it cost $20 bucks for it and only 3 bags worth

"I don't know how I'm gonna feel in a year."This statement scares me.

If Chris was not on board with FM. They probably would not bother with this tour.Stevie will just do her own business .

I love to see a new FM CD but I'm not going to loose any sleep over it if it happens or not but I will loose sleep and worry about her health and rest of FM's health.

pauls90 11-13-2014 11:45 AM

I'm sorry, but I will be sorely disappointed if she can't honestly find it in herself to do one last album.

Stevie is my #1 favorite artist - but 24 Karat Gold might be my last solo record of hers I will have purchased. It blows my mind that she would consider passing up this AMAZING opportunity to record an album with Christine back. There's an enormous sense of potential here for a record and she would rather do another half baked release with the bland Dave Stewart than give fans and her bandmates one last great effort.

Quite honestly if she does back out, I hope the band releases and album without her and she faces the public backlash and disappointment. I feel she needs a bit of a reality check.

That would probably be the final nail in the coffin for Fleetwood Mac though.

FM77 11-13-2014 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard B (Post 1153237)
So this tour will go into October/November of 2015?
Am I reading this correctly? If true, I guess far more dates will be announced. I suppose a second leg of the west coast will also happen.

Stevie said in the quote: US, then Australia, then Europe. Why do you think it's going into Oct/Nov?

jkmaletic 11-13-2014 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard B (Post 1153251)
No, just good business sense.
So go ahead and keep rolling your eyes.

Ok, Liz Rosenberg.

jkmaletic 11-13-2014 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pauls90 (Post 1153260)
I'm sorry, but I will be sorely disappointed if she can't honestly find it in herself to do one last album.

Stevie is my #1 favorite artist - but 24 Karat Gold might be my last solo record of hers I will have purchased. It blows my mind that she would consider passing up this AMAZING opportunity to record an album with Christine back. There's an enormous sense of potential here for a record and she would rather do another half baked release with the bland Dave Stewart than give fans and her bandmates one last great effort.

Quite honestly if she does back out, I hope the band releases and album without her and she faces the public backlash and disappointment. I feel she needs a bit of a reality check.
That would probably be the final nail in the coffin for Fleetwood Mac though.


EXACTLY. I worry about that too. But it'd be her own fault. She'd be the "b*tch" that didn't come back. As much as I want her to stop with FM and concentrate on her solo career, I think this may be one of the main reasons she won't.

tabruns 11-13-2014 12:06 PM

Actually, it might stoke album sales just from all the drama in the media: "Mac album without Nicks", etc. I agree with others that Mac should go ahead and finish the album whether Nicks is on board or not.

She had a great "really fun" year recording In Your Dreams with Stewart, and she apparently had a not great, not fun, time doing Say You Will with Lindsey. Maybe this is partially what's driving her....she may want to do another album with Stewart rather than something with Mac, although I also agree with others here that it seems like she's not actually thinking through that Mac already has about half of an album completed.

tabruns 11-13-2014 12:13 PM

Funny thing: I've mentioned before that I wish they could work out a deal where Mac helps Nicks promote 24KG by doing "Lady" in concert, her and McVie, and selling 24KG along with the t-shirts, in exchange for Nicks committing to do an album with Mac.

And in this interview she mentions playing "Lady" with McVie. She says it's "not probable" but she mentions it.

It'd be great if they got creative with negotiating and worked something out.

bethelblues 11-13-2014 12:13 PM

Maybe she heard the songs and didn't think they were that good? Maybe she doesn't want to see an album by the band go ignored and do little sales? And maybe Lindsey has refused to bring on another producer and she (like quite a few people on here) isn't a fan of his recent production style, especially when collaboration doesn't happen? There are many elements at play here.

tabruns 11-13-2014 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bethelblues (Post 1153271)
Maybe she heard the songs and didn't think they were that good? Maybe she doesn't want to see an album by the band go ignored and do little sales? And maybe Lindsey has refused to bring on another producer and she (like quite a few people on here) isn't a fan of his recent production style, especially when collaboration doesn't happen? There are many elements at play here.

True. But if she thinks it won't sell she's crazy. A last hurrah with the Rumours line-up would at least go Gold, mark my words. If they did marketing like the Eagles did with their final album, it could do multi-platinum and would be a fitting end.

Although all that being said, they keep talking about a "whole new chapter" so at least Mick and Lindsey apparently would like to see multiple tours and albums. :shrug:

louielouie2000 11-13-2014 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bethelblues (Post 1153271)
Maybe she heard the songs and didn't think they were that good? Maybe she doesn't want to see an album by the band go ignored and do little sales? And maybe Lindsey has refused to bring on another producer and she (like quite a few people on here) isn't a fan of his recent production style, especially when collaboration doesn't happen? There are many elements at play here.

I agree. Plus, it's possible she truly is just playing all of this by ear. She doesn't know if she & Lindsey will be happy with one another throughout this tour. And she wants an out in case things blow up. Or who knows- maybe she's worried Christine is here for the tour, but will jet after that's over? Or perhaps there is still lingering concern over John's health, and where he'll want to be after this tour is done. So, so many factors.

That being said, I still sense this is Stevie withholding because she's either not sure she wants to record with the band, or she's not yet gotten what she wants through negotiations.

Johnny Stew 11-13-2014 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1153273)
Plus, it's possible she truly is just playing all of this by ear.

That's my take on it: Stevie's in "wait & see" mode. Which is wise. Who knows what inter-band relations will be like after three solid years on the road together? And it's not like she has to make up her mind tomorrow anyway.

In my heart of hearts, I truly believe she will ultimately agree to record with the band. Even if she doesn't, it's unfair to paint her as the "bad guy."

Christopher 11-13-2014 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jkmaletic (Post 1153265)
EXACTLY. I worry about that too. But it'd be her own fault. She'd be the "b*tch" that didn't come back. As much as I want her to stop with FM and concentrate on her solo career, I think this may be one of the main reasons she won't.

Why would Stevie be the " "b*tch" that didn't come back." What a double standard some fans hold Stevie to. Was Lindsey considered the "b*itch" when he suddenly quit spitefully (some would consider his exit "burning bridges") only to come back to the band 9 years later. Was Christine considered the "B" when she unexpectedly quit in 1998, and unexpectedly came back 16 years later?!? :cool:

Things have changed. Bottom line is they're much older now and Stevie apparently does not want to spend her final golden years chained to Fleetwood Mac .

And Mick & Lindsey should blame themselves. They ALL put touring as a priority over a new record by continuing this never ending "On With The Show" tour into 2015. They could have stopped at the end of this year.

And Stevie won't be crucified. Only by a petty few on this fan board! Not only is Stevie beloved by millions, but also I believe, by and large, the general public & music buying demographic is not really going to care that much about a new FM record in 2016 or 2017 (with or without Stevie) they just want the hits, FM's glory days.
After 2015, they will have been coasting on "greatest hits" concerts for three straight years; 2013, 2014, and soon most of 2015. So what's the plan exactly? Do they expect to go in the studio in 2016 and then start up another tour afterwards, after they have saturated the market. I don't see it. Honestly, I can't say I blame Stevie for not knowing whether she will want to continue another 1-2 years with FM after 2015.

I have to say, my interest in a new FM record has considerably waned, and I never thought I'd say that out loud! It speaks volumes that Stevie didn't give Lindsey & the band some of her demos to work on last spring, while she was recording in Nashville. But I'm soooo thankful Stevie released the fab 24KG!!!!!

olive 11-13-2014 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jkmaletic (Post 1153264)
Ok, Liz Rosenberg.

what's her publicist have to do with anything ?

jbrownsjr 11-13-2014 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tabruns (Post 1153270)
Funny thing: I've mentioned before that I wish they could work out a deal where Mac helps Nicks promote 24KG by doing "Lady" in concert, her and McVie, and selling 24KG along with the t-shirts, in exchange for Nicks committing to do an album with Mac.

And in this interview she mentions playing "Lady" with McVie. She says it's "not probable" but she mentions it.

It'd be great if they got creative with negotiating and worked something out.

I have to agree with Stevie on this. Why not put one of the new songs in. Have just her and McVie perform just like they did, "Has Anyone Ever Written..." It would be beautiful.

saradorna 11-13-2014 12:42 PM

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"I don't know, because nothing can be done on that until we're done, and we have another seventy shows until this American tour is done, then we have Australia, then we have Europe. This isn't gonna be done until this time next year," Stevie tells ABC News Radio about the prospect of a new Mac album. "So, I don't know how I'm gonna feel in a year."

"I don't know whether I'm gonna wanna go back to my own thing or whether I'm gonna wanna sign up for another year of making a record," she adds. "I don't really know what I'm gonna wanna do then."

Fleetwood Mac is currently on tour in Canada. They'll return to the U.S. next week but have dates scheduled in North America through March.
I'm glad she said something! I would love for her to do a last album with the band. I'm not going to stop buying her music if she decides not to. :cool:

jkmaletic 11-13-2014 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew (Post 1153275)
That's my take on it: Stevie's in "wait & see" mode. Which is wise. Who knows what inter-band relations will be like after three solid years on the road together? And it's not like she has to make up her mind tomorrow anyway.

In my heart of hearts, I truly believe she will ultimately agree to record with the band. Even if she doesn't, it's unfair to paint her as the "bad guy."

But they probably would paint her as such.

BlueLight 11-13-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew (Post 1153275)
That's my take on it: Stevie's in "wait & see" mode. Which is wise. Who knows what inter-band relations will be like after three solid years on the road together? And it's not like she has to make up her mind tomorrow anyway.

Exactly. All the hand-wringing and stress over this is pointless at this stage - the band clearly has chosen to do a World Tour now instead of finishing up the album. For me, I can't worry about something that has yet to happen (or not). And in any event, so long as Stevie records again soon (whether solo or with FM), I'll be happy. :cool:

tabruns 11-13-2014 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Christopher (Post 1153276)
Why would Stevie be the " "b*tch" that didn't come back." What a double standard some fans hold Stevie to. Was Lindsey considered the "b*itch" when he suddenly quit spitefully (some would consider his exit "burning bridges") only to come back to the band 9 years later. Was Christine considered the "B" when she unexpectedly quit in 1998, and unexpectedly came back 16 years later?!? :cool:

I agree with Christopher on this. It doesn't seem fair to pile on Nicks when Buckingham and McVie both walked away for years on end. And Nicks hasn't even fully walked away...she's touring with them, she's just not sure she wants to commit to an album.

Legacy wise I think she really should. Do a double album like the Eagles did. But, its her call.

bombaysaffires 11-13-2014 12:52 PM

in retrospect it would have been better to not have booked this tour right away… Chris, Linds and the rest keep at it in the studio, Stevie might pop in and out as she preps for some kind of solo tour, let her do her solo shows even for just a couple of months (her solo tours are not gargantuan any more) while they keep working on the album and then put a new album out and THEN tour all you want and be done. You've closed out FM on both fronts by then-- album and tour-- and if no one wants to give it another go then no loose threads are still hanging out.

Though I disagree with Stevie's choices to date for my own selfish reasons, you gotta figure she's looking at how to close out both Mac and her solo career on high notes. Mac-wise, ok, they've opted for the big, high-profile tour-- who sells out arenas at 60 and 70-something (as she said in the article with Haim)? Very few acts. Go out with a bang. Her solo career? Does she want that to end with an album that, however good, has really been mostly ripple in the public consciousness? (I know that comment will blow some Ledgies' heads off, but in the real world that album has not been huge, it's been respectable, but that's it). I think she feels like she can let FM go if need be and know it ended well, they came full circle with Chris, etc.

The solo stuff she still seems looking for a big ending. She's 66. She'll be 67/68 before getting her next chance for solo stuff (24k tour doesn't count as new material). Time is short. Again, I disagree with how they've mapped this whole thing out, but there we are.

saradorna 11-13-2014 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jkmaletic View Post
EXACTLY. I worry about that too. But it'd be her own fault. She'd be the "b*tch" that didn't come back. As much as I want her to stop with FM and concentrate on her solo career, I think this may be one of the main reasons she won't.
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Why would Stevie be the " "b*tch" that didn't come back." What a double standard some fans hold Stevie to.
I think that was sarcasm of jkmaletic part. I think...

olive 11-13-2014 12:54 PM

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