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diamondsnake 09-12-2006 10:39 AM

Cher and Christine
 
In a strange way, do you think their voices are kind of similar? Especially in their later careers. They both have kind of deep, smooth voices. I don't know, maybe I am crazy, but it's something I have always thought and I was wondering if anyone else has had this cross their mind.

macfan 57 09-12-2006 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake (Post 570260)
In a strange way, do you think their voices are kind of similar? Especially in their later careers. They both have kind of deep, smooth voices. I don't know, maybe I am crazy, but it's something I have always thought and I was wondering if anyone else has had this cross their mind.

I have never remotely thought of any similarites between Christine McVie & Cher ever. I have no idea what Cher's voice sounds like anymore, but I can't imagine it would sound as good as Chris does nowdays. It's even kind of amusing to me to even compare these two women in any way. They are totally different in every way, except that they are both over 60.

jbrownsjr 09-12-2006 11:42 AM

I see what you mean... In a sense.

Villavic 07-04-2023 03:53 PM

In 2006 I would say I don't, but in her latest years, I could say yes, there was a a slight similarity between those two voices.

Villavic 12-12-2023 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1285693)
In 2006 I would say I don't, but in her latest years, I could say yes, there was a a slight similarity between those two voices.

I take back this.

I meant Christine latest years. But actually Cher voice is very "optimized" by auto-tune, since Believe (1999). I guess not entirely, but nowadays I can't say what songs or segments are genuine and what are auto-tuned.

And when Cher sung with Sonny (I Got You Babe), her voice was completely different than in the 80s and onwards.

jbrownsjr 12-14-2023 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1290458)
I take back this.

I meant Christine latest years. But actually Cher voice is very "optimized" by auto-tune, since Believe (1999). I guess not entirely, but nowadays I can't say what songs or segments are genuine and what are auto-tuned.

And when Cher sung with Sonny (I Got You Babe), her voice was completely different than in the 80s and onwards.

Maybe they wore the same wig at some point?

sue 12-14-2023 10:56 AM

Cher has been on British tv a lot lately, maybe she has an Album out or is appearing in Panto or something.

She looks about 45 and has borrowed Stevie’s cascading legging things.
You know the ones that are modelled on old style Cinema curtains, that are strangely gathered…

Villavic 12-14-2023 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1290503)
Cher has been on British tv a lot lately, maybe she has an Album out or is appearing in Panto or something.

Yes she released a Christmas album in october. There are some duets (Cyndi, Stevie).

sue 12-14-2023 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1290507)
Yes she released a Christmas album in october. There are some duets (Cyndi, Stevie).

I know, I was just being flippant…or something.
She has been singing her new Christmas song on all tv chat shows.

aleuzzi 12-14-2023 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1290502)
Maybe they wore the same wig at some point?

They're both divorced...Um...they both ad iconic noses...

That's all I've got.

HomerMcvie 12-14-2023 03:05 PM

Reading up above made me remember Mary Anne(macfan 57). She was a huge Christine fan. I remember she bought one of Christine's dresses on eBay, and had a glass case built for it in her house. She was so nice, and we used to exchange Christmas cards(I actually mailed out cards last night, and came across her address-so seeing her name above really made me remember her). I've not seen her on here for a LONG time now.

jbrownsjr 12-14-2023 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1290518)
Reading up above made me remember Mary Anne(macfan 57). She was a huge Christine fan. I remember she bought one of Christine's dresses on eBay, and had a glass case built for it in her house. She was so nice, and we used to exchange Christmas cards(I actually mailed out cards last night, and came across her address-so seeing her name above really made me remember her). I've not seen her on here for a LONG time now.

Me too!! at first I thought it was current.

HomerMcvie 12-14-2023 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1290522)
Me too!! at first I thought it was current.

Same. Great minds....;)

Penguin Emeritus 12-14-2023 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1290518)
Reading up above made me remember Mary Anne(macfan 57). She was a huge Christine fan. I remember she bought one of Christine's dresses on eBay, and had a glass case built for it in her house. She was so nice, and we used to exchange Christmas cards(I actually mailed out cards last night, and came across her address-so seeing her name above really made me remember her). I've not seen her on here for a LONG time now.

I wrote to her last year when chris passed away, she seems to be doing ok. i guess just not as into FM as she used to be.

--Lis

HomerMcvie 12-14-2023 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus (Post 1290526)
I wrote to her last year when chris passed away, she seems to be doing ok. i guess just not as into FM as she used to be.

--Lis

I figured when Christine came back that she'd have been all about it.

I wonder if she still has the dress?

And I used to search for her on fb, but never found her. She was so nice.

aleuzzi 12-14-2023 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1290528)
I figured when Christine came back that she'd have been all about it.

I wonder if she still has the dress?

And I used to search for her on fb, but never found her. She was so nice.

She was the sweetest person. I count her as one of the good things to come from the internet!

HomerMcvie 12-15-2023 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1290530)
She was the sweetest person. I count her as one of the good things to come from the internet!

She really was. The world was much more kind, 20 years ago. Even I only lurked on the Ledge from 2001-2003, without joining. People were just too mean, and I didn't feel like I could take it. Look at me now. :lol:

SteveMacD 12-15-2023 02:29 AM

The only singer that sounded remotely like Christine to me was Sandy Denny.

Macfan4life 12-15-2023 06:12 AM

I don't think Chris sounded like Cher and vice versa. IMHO her voice is very similar to Steve Winwood. The first time I heard One In A Million on the radio I did not even notice it was a duet because their voices are so similar. When I got the album and saw the credits is when I realized it was Steve.

sue 12-15-2023 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1290535)
I don't think Chris sounded like Cher and vice versa. IMHO her voice is very similar to Steve Winwood. The first time I heard One In A Million on the radio I did not even notice it was a duet because their voices are so similar. When I got the album and saw the credits is when I realized it was Steve.

They do have a common sound which may have something to do that they grew up just 20 minutes apart.
Similar accents.
Christine grew up in Smethwick, Steve in Kingstanding both districts of Birmingham in the Midlands (the Black Country)
Also their musical background is the British blues sound of the 1960s.
Both have that smokey bluesy sound.

jbrownsjr 12-15-2023 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1290528)
I figured when Christine came back that she'd have been all about it.

I wonder if she still has the dress?

And I used to search for her on fb, but never found her. She was so nice.

I sent her a cardboard cut out of Christine. Can't remember how I got it. She loved it. Or maybe it was just a poster. Gosh, it was either or. My memory is shot.

jbrownsjr 12-15-2023 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1290538)
They do have a common sound which may have something to do that they grew up just 20 minutes apart.
Similar accents.
Christine grew up in Smethwick, Steve in Kingstanding both districts of Birmingham in the Midlands (the Black Country)
Also their musical background is the British blues sound of the 1960s.
Both have that smokey bluesy sound.

Why do they call it the "Black Country"? Dark forests like Lord of the Rings?

sue 12-15-2023 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1290541)
Why do they call it the "Black Country"? Dark forests like Lord of the Rings?

Mmmm..no not quite.
It was the birthplace of the Industrial revolution, consequently there were many chimneys from foundries and factories polluting the atmosphere…causing discolouration of buildings.
Also coal mining was prevalent in the Birmingham area both underground and open cast….
Hence the name Black country
Obviously both are now part of history but the name stuck.
(Though I prefer your description)

aleuzzi 12-15-2023 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1290534)
The only singer that sounded remotely like Christine to me was Sandy Denny.

Bud Scopa in his RS review of BARE TREES said her approach was somewhere between Sandy Denny and Dusty Springfield. That still rings true for me. Her style is a bit closer to Sandy Denny but there are definite RB/Dusty overtones, too. I can’t picture Christine singing “Who Knows Where the Time Goes” with as much warbly vibrato as Sandy Denny but I can picture her singing a carbon copy version of Dusty’s “Lost.”

HomerMcvie 12-15-2023 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1290540)
I sent her a cardboard cut out of Christine. Can't remember how I got it. She loved it. Or maybe it was just a poster. Gosh, it was either or. My memory is shot.

It's not just you. I'm the same. Being in our 30's is tough!

Villavic 12-15-2023 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1290545)
It's not just you. I'm the same. Being in our 30's is tough!

How can you be in your 30's if Mirage came out at the height of your fandom? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1290414)
It depends on when you ask me...

Rumours is the album that made me who I am, but I'm so tired of it. I've lost track of how many copies I've purchased.

Mystery To Me was my summer album for years. I'd put it on in the afternoon, blasting by the pool while I floated around until it was over.

Tusk is deeper than I'd normally choose as my favorite. It's great for a night of quiet thinking.

Live always held a place in my heart. I remember driving around in high school, BLASTING it for the world to hear. I never knew Oh Well before then(yes, I'd heard it on the Tusk tour, but didn't know what it's name was, even).

BuckVie is my second favorite. What a joy to get this at the late stage in the game. It's Mirage, part II.

For me, I'm going to have to pick Mirage. It's such a fun album, and came out at the height of my fandom. And yes, I realize that it's lightweight. Maybe that's all it needs to be. Light and fun.

I reserve the right to change this list at the drop of a hat.


Macfan4life 12-15-2023 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1290538)
They do have a common sound which may have something to do that they grew up just 20 minutes apart.
Similar accents.
Christine grew up in Smethwick, Steve in Kingstanding both districts of Birmingham in the Midlands (the Black Country)
Also their musical background is the British blues sound of the 1960s.
Both have that smokey bluesy sound.

Yes that explains it.

HomerMcvie 12-15-2023 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1290547)
How can you be in your 30's if Mirage came out at the height of your fandom? :rolleyes:

It's the new math. I'm sorry that you can't comprehend it. We're all not the same. There's nothing wrong with you being mathematically challenged...

jbrownsjr 12-15-2023 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1290547)
How can you be in your 30's if Mirage came out at the height of your fandom? :rolleyes:

Leave our fake ages alone!! :lol:

Macfan4life 12-15-2023 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1290542)
Mmmm..no not quite.
It was the birthplace of the Industrial revolution, consequently there were many chimneys from foundries and factories polluting the atmosphere…causing discolouration of buildings.
Also coal mining was prevalent in the Birmingham area both underground and open cast….
Hence the name Black country
Obviously both are now part of history but the name stuck.
(Though I prefer your description)

BTW, in 1986 Steve's hit Freedom Overspill I would always imagine Chris singing it. The organ and his mannerisms how he sings the song let alone they have a similar sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgva5e6UAsw&t=162s

Villavic 12-15-2023 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1290551)
Leave our fake ages alone!! :lol:

Impossible.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sfc-dateboo...xx-700x500.jpg

sue 12-15-2023 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1290553)
BTW, in 1986 Steve's hit Freedom Overspill I would always imagine Chris singing it. The organ and his mannerisms how he sings the song let alone they have a similar sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgva5e6UAsw&t=162s

They have a similar sound on the whole, and very similar way of playing.
But Christine has a rounder more mellow voice.

I have a soft spot for Spencer Davis…
I won a little dancing competition at a local dance hall.
And the prize was a three of their singles ..

GypsySorcerer 01-08-2024 05:24 PM

Oh, wow...talk about some names from the past. Mary Anne was super sweet. I thought of her when Christine passed and wondered if she would post here around that time.

On another note, I always thought Christine sounded similar to Barbra Streisand, minus the vibrato (if that makes any sense). :laugh:

nicepace 01-11-2024 04:32 PM

One of the reasons I loved Christine's voice so much is no one else ever reminded me of her. Ever. Other singers have similar ranges, of course, but there's a quality to her voice that was hers alone. Not being a musician or singer I don't know the vocabulary for it, but I know what I mean.

HomerMcvie 01-11-2024 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 1291310)
One of the reasons I loved Christine's voice so much is no one else ever reminded me of her. Ever. Other singers have similar ranges, of course, but there's a quality to her voice that was hers alone. Not being a musician or singer I don't know the vocabulary for it, but I know what I mean.

It was soothing and comforting. S&L aren't even close in those categories.

I miss her so much.

SteveMacD 01-11-2024 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 1291310)
One of the reasons I loved Christine's voice so much is no one else ever reminded me of her. Ever. Other singers have similar ranges, of course, but there's a quality to her voice that was hers alone. Not being a musician or singer I don't know the vocabulary for it, but I know what I mean.

Sandy Denny sounded very similar at times. Similar timber, although a big more range and a bit more power, but she started out as a vocalist whereas Christine sort of happened into it.

I still wonder how much of a driving force Mike Vernon was in making Christine a front woman, considering she had three of Chicken Shack’s first four singles when it was Stan’s band.

DownOnRodeo 01-19-2024 02:58 AM

I was in the car singing along to Say You Love Me in my best Christine voice and I suddenly realized I was sounding like Cher, so there might be something to this theory after all.

David 01-19-2024 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1291498)
I was in the car singing along to Say You Love Me in my best Christine voice and I suddenly realized I was sounding like Cher, so there might be something to this theory after all.

I was singing “All Over Again” the other day on the way to the market, and I realized I was sounding like Patti LaBelle. I think the stylistic link between those two has yet to be fully explored or even understood.

jbrownsjr 01-19-2024 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1291509)
I was singing “All Over Again” the other day on the way to the market, and I realized I was sounding like Patti LaBelle. I think the stylistic link between those two has yet to be fully explored or even understood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuM1ZXUJUB8

was listening this morning!! I like the intro.

HomerMcvie 01-19-2024 01:52 PM

While I don't think they sound alike, they both do have deep, throaty voices.


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