Mick's pettiness -- a new low??
 

Just thought I'd share this tidbit.... Recently I was with a group of friends in Maui. One day friends who have gone there several times were showing us around Lahaina. They suggested getting lunch at Mick's restaurant as it was one place they still had never tried. Despite some misgivings about putting any cash in MF's coffers, curiosity got the better of me and I agreed to go. [When I have time at some point I will post pics and some commentary about that.]

The restaurant itself is on the second floor of the building (main dining room) with the rooftop deck above that. Only the rooftop is open for lunch, which is when we went. On the first floor, there are two shops-- a jewelry store and a store titled both 'Morrisson Hotel Gallery' and 'Fleetwood's General Store'. It has Mick's green vintage car (I forget the model), some restaurant-branded tee shirts and things, some recent FM tour books, and then a whole lotta framed prints of rock stars by famous rock photographers (Neil Preston, Henry Diltz, etc... no Herbie).

LOTS of photos of Stevie (alone, with FM, with Tom) from both FM shoots and solo shoots. Staff told our group that Stevie and Chris have both been in the store and that Stevie saw a photo of herself she'd never seen before and had to get one of the prints. (Wonder if she had to pay or put it on Mick's tab? I mean, that's the least one could do for one's meal ticket, but then again, we're talking Mick). There's a nice photo of Stevie and Christine during the Little Lies video shoot for sale also.

I asked the staff if there were any photos for sale of Lindsey. They said, "Um, yeah we have some. We aren't allowed to put them out, but we can show them to you over here." And they took us to a cabinet and pulled out a handful of them laid out in one of the drawers. Then they told us they were given clear direction that they were NOT to put ANY pics of Lindsey out on display, explaining, "They're kind of on the outs". One of us said, "Yeah, I guess when there's lawsuits involved it gets tricky." One of the staff then said, very quickly, in a way that sounded like they got talking points in case someone brought it up, "Well they settled the lawsuit very quickly. They wanted to acknowledge his contributions to the songs." :shocked:

Lindsey's only presence was in a couple of vintage 70s group shots. There was however a nice B&W pic of Stevie and Tom for sale and a huge color photo of Tom and Mike onstage prominently displayed inside the restaurant (not for sale in the gallery). Zero photos we saw of the current lineup anywhere.

Mick consistently lowers the bar for the requirements of being the world's sh*ttiest person. What a scumbag!

He is truly repugnant.

The Van Halen brothers airbrushed Michael Anthony out of all photos on the Van Halen website. I believe his credits were also removed.
While Mick is petty and cheap, the Van Halen brothers still take a grudge a bit further than Mick but are probably on par with Stevie.
Michael Anthony got fired and banished because he took the side of Sammy Hagar .
Lindsey got fired because he danced behind Stevie at an awards show.
Two of the dumbest firings ever in rock.

He's gross--just gross. "We want to honor is legacy to the band....he's over here in this drawer"

It just seems like Mick's baseline level of pettiness and tackiness.None of it comes as a surprise from that one.

OMG!!! That is the truth. Mick is an a$$hole and a big f’in loser.

Lindsey didn’t get fired because of his dancing.....no he was fired because Mick’s coffers were getting low.
Stevie says, “you want us to tour ?...you get rid of Lindsey once and for all and then I’ll tour”.
So Lindsey got fired.
Because Mick was broke.....oh and Stevie had waited and waited etc etc

No, that was Mick & Christine doing a waltz.

He smirked.

while Mick and Chris laughed. :shrug:

As pathetically small-minded as this is, you gotta admit it’s comical, too. Reading the anecdote made me laugh. Of course all of you are right: what Mick is doing in his restaurant with the LB photos is beyond petty and vindictive over the lawsuit. It may even be insane. After all, the band forced LB’s hand.

Did Mick imagine that LB would allow himself to get dumped out of his band for the second time and just slink away quietly into the night? How unhinged do you have to be? Like Jane Fonda bragging about her “sustainable” gold jewelry and her “responsibly farmed” diamonds at the Oscars, Mike is disconnected from reality.

(Actually, they’re all at that age where some of them will start showing more and more signs of dementia and senile confusion.)

What I found curious was, if Mick et al are soooo "committed" to the latest line up, why there is absolutely NO representation of that line up? Sure, there's a big photo of Mike (with Tom) but not a single acknowledgement of Neil or of Mike and Neil alongside the rest of the members. I get why Morrisson's might not have them up for sale (I don't think there's great demand, call me cynical :D) but why not at least one somewhere on Mick's premises in the restaurant? Every single photo was of the the Five. It's like the current line up doesn't exist. Go figure. Indeed, we only saw one pic of Chris by herself, and it was around the corner by the service elevator, by itself. In the public spaces were pics of Mick and his various kids and partners, Mick and John, and...Stevie. (There was one with Rick alongside Mick and John possibly having been golfing). I mean, there was even a poster featuring Steven Tyler's ass (taken of him performing on the rooftop 'stage' and used in a poster to promote the venue's live music)

he imagined Lindsey would go with their concocted story that he "left" because he was hoping Lindsey wouldn't want the story that he was "fired" out.

there were some rumors (probably accurate, knowing these lowlifes!) that Lindsey was presented with papers to sign saying that he left of his own will. then they were gonna make him look bad as leaving the band again right at the eve of already booked tour, and so poor them had to scramble to find his replacements. needless to say, LB didn't want to sign anything like that and made sure the truth gets out. (again, not sure whether this story is true, but looks very plausible.)

I was there in 2014, a month later I saw them in NJ (On with the Show tour). I took some pictures. Just checked them and I didn't find any pic with Christine. Weird, since I'm a big fan and was more than happy with her return. So if there were Chris photos, I'm sure I would have taken them. So probably there weren't, but I do remember listening her songs at the restaurant.

Was there this pic among those you saw?
https://i241.photobucket.com/albums/...psu3ztgtst.jpg

And, if you want to have fun destroying and trampling on the bad boy, I share this one. There were several pictures of him in disguise. :D
https://i241.photobucket.com/albums/...psary7m52x.jpg

I agree with the needless to say. So, do you really think those guys thought Lindsey would sign? Knowing him for years? Naaaaa. I don't think the rumor is real.

it may or may not be. or parts of it might be - certainly Mick stuck to the script that "Lindsey left" and "we don't wanna say fired" for a very long time, as was all their PR in the press. so they definitely wanted to present it as he left of his own volition. you still see it places.

remember the first article that stated he was fired was in the Rolling Stone magazine - all others before it were saying "he left again" - and LB has fans and friends at RS. he may have given them a heads up that band is trying to spread a false story.

I was in Maui this past Christmas, and there was a whole series of Mick-in-drag photos (including this one) all over the bathroom walls. Quite unsettling. :nod::shocked:

The only photo of Christine I saw in the gallery was one taken from her 1984 solo shoot for People Magazine (sitting on the bed, legs crossed). I thought it odd that there weren't more of her.

The older lady running the place was super friendly, however some of her info was off. A couple was mentioning how well Stevie has aged, and the lady drew their attention to a Rumours era photo, correctly cited as 1977, and compared it to a 2014 photo that was in fact from 1998 and used all over the Enchanted promo material.

We didn't see that one, but then I don't use the men's room, so....

Looks a bit like him doing his impression of Stevie onstage...:eek:

This is where I call BS.

If there were countless pictures of the classic/SYW/LBCM lineups on the wall, the same people complaining of his pettiness for not displaying pictures of Lindsey would be calling him greedy by trying to make an extra buck or two off of Lindsey.

As the OP let me clarify that I wasn't calling out the lack of LB pics in HIS restaurant (which he can do since it's his business), I posted because I found it a bit petty that he had instructed ANOTHER BUSINESS (i.e., Morrison Hotel Gallery) to not put out certain of their merchandise for sale (pics of LB) because of his beef with someone. I get that it's a shared space (though I don't know if he actually owns the building or leases it) between their gallery and his "general store". As for him making money off LB or his likeness, he certainly didn't have any problem with having Lindsey's face all over adverts for the tour.:eek:

(And for the record there were images of the Rumours 5 in the restaurant, and for sale in the Morrison's gallery. Just nothing of LB individually).

As IF that LOSER would own it. I'll bet $20 that he leases. He's not smart enough to own it. He's a pathetic P.O.S.

And if he did own it he would lose it in yet another bankruptcy in a couple of years if he can no longer milk another Fakewood Mac cash grab tour. I hope this old grifter dies penniless.

If anyone ever deserved to die penniless, it's him.

The Old Goat earned her tin cans $he chews on.

Old Dick milked everyone else's talent. He has displaced The Old Goat's position on my sh*t list. Old Dick is #1 now. The Old Goat is #2. (I just called her #2, for anyone that didn't get that reference!:p )

I agree with you...Mick is more despicable than Stevie. That's saying something, but there is truly something "crawling on the earth on your belly" slimy about him. Moreso than her.

He's truly scum.

Scum?

At worst, he’s a money whore and bad entrepreneur, but scum seems like a stretch.

I seem to remember Bob Welch saying that Mick was the only member of the band (SYW lineup) who was willing to play a benefit show for Wendy. He also had choice words for Stevie and Lindsey.

Anyway, if the choice was between replacing Lindsey or disbanding...I mean, if they didn’t disband over Peter Green, they certainly weren’t over Lindsey Buckingham.

Yes but Peter leaving the band was far different than this last Lindsey episode. Lindsey is not brain damaged (well, maybe Stevie thinks he is, I don't know, but I don't). Peter began to get crazed, bad behavior on stage. He left the band or the band was really forced to fired him. It's not the first time a band fires a member because of drug addictions. That's not the case of Lindsey being fired in 2018.

But yes, they have the choice to disband or continue. And they chose to continue and though I was angry about it, I wasn't surprised.

Yeah. He still has the same good points he’s always had: great “feel” drummer with subtlety, fascinating showmanship, keen pop and blues instincts, musical boldness, and so on. His bad points are still bad—actually, he became a figure of ridicule quite awhile back, maybe the episode where he sold wine at Costco. After that low, his business ventures almost all seemed whorey (always capitalizing on the Fleetwood Mac name to hock garbage that felt like a pyramid scheme product). Nowadays, many of us laugh at him more than take delight in his musical work, which is probably not the impression he most wants to leave us with.

Really? What? I missed that interview.

The band’s zombie syndrome (never dying after getting hacked up) has been both a blessing and a curse, sometimes both at once. For example: in the middle of a bland, listless, “acty” set in 1987, the band with two new guys played ferociously and achingly on “Don’t Let Me Down Again” and “Another Woman.” Two concert highlights in my lengthy exposure to their live shows that I did not expect at all.

Imagine running into gumby scarf man sitting by himself at Gelson's in LA selling that awful wine? NO ONE was at the table, so I went up and bought a bottle. HE WAS RUDE AF. Not a fan of money grubbing Gumby scarf man.

What wine are you talking about? Since this thread is about Mick, I suppose you bought a Cabernet or Merlot from "his" Monterey County Private cellar.

Well the 2011 Cabernet was great, a 4.4 over 5*. Of course I guess his only merit on producing that wine was putting his name. And of course I chose the one that doesn't include his face in the label.

I'm just glad that we have an in house authority on all such issues.

Well, we knew what we were dealing with when they initially tried to keep him off the Sirius channel.

It was so obvious, it was embarrassing.

What happened?

None of Lindsey’s segments aired the first week.

I always take things I see on Facebook with a pound of salt, but this caught my eye:

I would never wish anyone to die penniless. As much as Mick's revisionist leanings annoy me, I don't think he's an outright scumbag. Sure--he's a coward, a side-changer, an opportunist...Let's call him Italy in both world wars. But he's this way out of his own personal necessity: he needs a band and relies on front persons to keep the flame of Fleetwood Mac burning.

He was wrong to allow Lindsey to be fired. But I'm not surprised he (or anyone else among the remaining Rumours lineup) decided to go for the easy big money of a boring "replacement" tour. They're all capitalists trying to convince us that cheap corrugated board countertops are as good as marble.

That's exactly right. If you want to blame someone, go to the source. The reason he's out of Fleetwood Mac is because of Sleezy Nicks. This is not in dispute. I can't fault someone for not wanting to make a sizable living and live the way they are used to.

Sleezy Nicks should have been blocked or talked out of it. I smirk when I see her picture! I cringe when I hear her voice.

Okay I don't really hope that Mick dies in penury . It is just that his constant hare brained money making schemes followed by bankruptcy after bankruptcy does get annoying and then add to this his collusion with Stevie to kick the architect of their sound out of the band forever is just bleech. There is only one person that I can think of offhand that I would like to see that happen to and he is of a considerably more orange hue.