What if LB didn't go back to save the Mac in 97?
someone brought up SYW which made me think of the original GOS and all the wasted years and time LB had in waiting for the Mac.
what if he didn't listen to the label at the time and didn't go back then? FM would be playing small fairs now, if they'd even still exist. you know, always evolving and new band, the way Mick likes it! :laugh: original Gift of Screws was a masterpiece and should have been released as it was originally intended. in retrospect - although i know he would not agree plus he made tons of money because of it and he likes the FM legacy piece that he'd never had if they didn't reform and regain respect in the late 90s - Lindsey shouldn't have listened to the record label back in the 90s, and shouldn't have gone back to save FM from the laughing stock it became at that point. he should have released Gift and kept releasing solo stuff or collaborating with other people. his 20 last years could have been so much more productive if he was not repeatedly stifled by waiting for the Mac. |
The reality is that OOTC didn’t sell much better than Time, and Street Angel was Stevie’s worst selling album. The combined sales numbers of all three would still have been a disaster by Fleetwood Mac standards. Be under no illusion, they all needed that reunion. The Dance didn’t save the band, it revived everyone’s failing careers.
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LB needed that reunion if he wanted to be commercial again. but for his opus, that reunion screwed him up. so it depends what you mean as a career. his creative career got stifled and screwed, not saved by any means. (you are the one talking about Richard Thompson all the time. and you seem more than happy with him having largely non-commercial career in recent decades. so i don't get why you think LB needs a commercial career?) early 90s was the time of grunge. i'm not saying that LB's inertia and propensity to wait didn't add to all this. once when he decided he's not going for commercial anymore, which happened seemingly around the time of his Soundstage release or maybe right before Under The Skin, he became free and started releasing stuff... in the holes of time Mac allowed him. Lindsey would have been just as unknown as he is now. FM would have been playing fair circuit or not exist and would not have today's legendary status. Stevie - hard to tell, she's always been a climber. she may have stayed a laughing stock or maybe she would have done eventually stuff like AHS anyway. but she most probably would have been far from a legendary icon she is now. LB being back with the label now is once again screwing him up now. he should have taken the money he made with FM in the past and started his own little indie label. nurture some artists he cares about. |
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Rob Cavallo said that he / record company practically forced LB's hand. he was gonna go out with the solo album, and tried couple of times - first time they told him he should do FM reunion / the Dance instead since he's been inactive. next time when he tried putting it out again (in 2001), they told him to wait (for SN's solo stuff that she was doing, riding the reunion coattails solo instead of recording with the band - whoever was managing her was a genius!) and put it out as SYW. i'm not saying he went with it completely unwillingly, but what i am saying is that his products would have been much stronger if he released them solo instead of SYW. and there would have been more products instead of a practically a decade wait for FM / SN solo. yes, less people would hear it, but let's face it - other than Peacekeeper which was played extensively on the mainstream radio, nobody other than FM hardcores knows other SYW songs. Quote:
although like i said above, in the 90s he still had aspirations as far as being commercial artist, he let that go only in the early 2000s (and therefore, Castaway Dreams). Quote:
i mean don't get me wrong, i don't think LB would agree with me for a second. i think he's probably more-less happy with the path he took, money he made, plus he's probably thinking karma etc. this is just my opinion as a fan of his music, someone who sees i could have gotten so much more from him if he never went back to FM. on the other hand, i've never heard of him before seeing Second Hand News from the Dance on MTV in the 90s, so if he never rejoined i may have never knows any of his music! ;) |
meanwhile, and talking about The Dance, pbs will be showing it multiple times starting from tonight -
In 1997, the members of Fleetwood Mac — Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood, Christine McVie, John McVie and Stevie Nicks — reunited for its first full-length concert since 1982 to commemorate the anniversary of their phenomenally successful album Rumours. Filmed over three nights in an intimate setting at a sound stage in Los Angeles, the band performed songs that have since become among the best known in rock history, including “Don’t Stop,” “The Chain,” “Go Your Own Way,” and “Dreams” as well as new songs, including "Bleed to Love Her" and "Temporary One." . CHECK YOUR LOCAL PBS STATION FOR DATES AND TIMES. BEGINS AIRING IN SOME PARTS OF THE COUNTRY TODAY WITH MULTIPLE REPEATS THROUGH JUNE 8TH |
[QUOTE=elle;1230029]meanwhile, and talking about The Dance, pbs will be showing it multiple times starting from tonight -
They are marketing the hell out of the Rumours Lineup--luring people in that this is who they will see on the tour......and WHAM--2 ringers will be up there. I will say, the folks in their marketing department are not idiots. It's just some other folks associated with the band that are :) |
The Dance
Even though he first did the acoustic solo of Big Love on the OOTC tour, it was that performance on The Dance that propelled Lindsey to legendary status.
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it was Rob Cavallo's words, not mine, about being inactive. it was from 1993 through 1997 i guess, which may have been a long time then, even though in snail current FM pace 4 years might not be long. but yeah, you can argue with Cavallo about that. have you ever seen Lindsey's Behind the Music? that's where those quotes i'm talking about are from. also at the time, that BTM is all about his upcoming solo album. it ends with - "the solo album is coming!" he obviously tried to do it, and we have no idea how much of his choice it was to eventually roll it into FM after all. fatherhood had nothing to do it at that point, they show his 2 kids in that BTM. everyone else had kids and works, i really don't get why people keep bringing that up as some kind of impediment for the members of this band. |
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Musical artistry and creative freedom aside, let's talk bank accounts. By 1997, Lindsey was still living off of a cash flow and investments generated by profit from the Rumours/Tusk era, nearly 20 years earlier. Is it possible that the money was drying up? Stevie has been quoted as saying that Lindsey was far more conservative with his spending that other members of the band. He wasn't wasteful. But, how long could that cash last?
By 1997, Lindsey was entering the dawn of a new personal life. Soon, children, houses, and family life would be in the picture. This requires cash flow. I can't imagine Lindsey's family being able to lead the lifestyle that they do without the cash flow from Fleetwood Mac tours. His solo career certainly wasn't going to pay for it. These children attended posh elite private schools in Brentwood. Kristen has expensive taste. I realize that Lindsey prefers to be the tortured creative genius who is strongly opposed to "selling out". But, let's not discount the benefits that the big machine has afforded his lifestyle. |
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i read somewhere once that kind of money takes care of itself. you have tons of accountants and people investing and multiplying your millions. (unless you are Mick, of course, then you keep spending more than you make). so no, he may have had more money in 1997 than originally after making millions from Rumours. plus royalties, etc. remember he said once that SN made 6 millions just from Dixie Chicks cover of Landslide. |
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