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Dave Mason on Time and Christine
[Everything worked out for the best, man. Excerpt from Nick DeRiso interview]
http://somethingelsereviews.com/2014...g-his-own-way/ NICK DERISO: Do you feel like that period has been treated unfairly by critics who focused solely on a return of Buckingham Nicks? After all, it’s a band that’s had several lineups, going back to the Peter Green days. DAVE MASON: Oh, yeah, it’s had a number of incarnations. I could understand, from some people’s point of view, because the Rumours album obviously sold so many copies. It was so huge that that sort of overshadowed everything else. We did the album, and Warner Bros. didn’t really bother with it, frankly. So, it sort of just came out and died a death. And that was that. But we spent six or eight months making that record, on and off. It wasn’t just slapped together. The problem was that [long-time Fleetwood Mac contributor] Christine [McVie] was on the album, but she wouldn’t go on the road. That probably would have lent more credence to it. By the time we got on the road, all you had was [band founders] Mick [Fleetwood] and John McVie. So, it got to be classified as a Fleetwood Mac cover band. |
Elle, I blame Mick for this tour.
Michele |
Well, they were all there, and they picked a setlist that was NOT about the new Fleetwood Mac. They just played what the audience wanted to hear, except that none of the original writers-Singers were there. They should have played the TIME songs and three hits. And some solostuff from becca and dave. And then I don't mean dear mr. Fantasy. They made it a coverband themselves. Still, I enjoyed this concert better then the behind the mask tour.
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His chronology is off...the album didn't come out until their 14 months tour had ENDED. They only played a couple of songs from the album during the tour. An earlier version of Dave's song "Blow By Blow" was on the Soccer Rocks The World compilation disc about a year or so before Time came out, so for a large part of the tour, that was the only "new" song that was played on tour. (Later, Bekka's "Dreamin' This Dream" replaced their cover of John Lennon's "Imagine" as their concert closer) They did Billy's "The Bigger The Love", which was on his solo album Coming Home (the 2nd time he'd recorded it; it was on an earlier album of his Gimme You) that came out a year or so before Time AND on the album that John McVie did with Lola Thomas. (I seem to recall that they also cut a version for the aborted album Another Link In The Chain)
Bottom line: There WAS no tour to promote Time. |
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That was my whole point. And in the core, musically, FM's last tour was with 5 musicians on stage and Stevie. Ok there are some backing vocalists, but in the Time band there already were 4 voices on stage. It's not THAT huge difference. |
The fact remains......Christine didn't want anything to do with Dave.....she didn't want him in the band, she didn't want him on her tracks, and she didn't want to be on stage with him...period.
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I don't disagree that they relied too heavily on the classic material, but without any new material, again, I don't really see the point in playing new material. I would be curious how the setlist would have changed had they toured. Quote:
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Any ideas why? I remember hearing/reading that they didn't get along, but I always assumed it had something to do with creative differences that surfaced while in the studio. This comment suggests there was already bad blood... :( |
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Actually, I saw them open for CSN a year before, and people in my section thought Fleetwood Mac stole the show. |
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And I can still hear all the people around me, bitching because Stevie wasn't in the band. People suck, and don't understand reinvention. And that night, I became a Bekka fan for life! Probably the best singer FM ever had! |
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At the same time, Fleetwood Mac was listening to audition tapes, none of which were inspiring Mick. Mick's first choice was Jerry Lynn Williams, but he said no. Per the story Mick and Dave have said, Mick jokingly made the comment, "if I can't find somebody soon, I'm just going put you in the band" and Dave said "I'd love to be in the band." |
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Traffic maintain the Dave Mason quit the band, and was never really a major part of the band. Winwood considered him to be an auxiliary musician in the band, never really a full member of the band. |
Winwood stated once that Mason was only an invited guest in Traffic. I always thought he was an odd choice for FM. I never really liked his songs on Time but he is a good guitar player.
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The OCD in me wants to know why this isn't in the Post-Rumours forum.
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Question: Was Mick aware of Christine's feelings/opinions of Dave Mason before he invited Dave to join Fleetwood Mac?
Back in '74/75 Mick made a big deal that if Christine didn't get on with Stevie and Lindsey, then the deal was off. :cool: |
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I happened to catch the band by chance, while on a roller coaster outing at an amusement park in California -- same line up: Pat Benetar, Fleetwood Mac, REO Speedwagon.
I was in the park and saw the advertisement. I could not believe it! It was a somewhat surreal and very strange experience to see Fleetwood Mac sans Lindsey, Stevie and Christine. I enjoyed hearing new renditions of the old songs. It was much like when the early Rumours-era band was still performing older songs from the band's history. What was disappointing and somewhat sad was that after such a long and lauded history, this band was second on the bill of a oldies package/ nostalgia tour performing in an amusement park to a sparse, diverse and indifferent audience. |
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It was kind of sad but they were starting over as a new act under an established name. The show I saw in Mansfield, MA Fleetwood Mac was the last act to perform after REO. REO's stage and lighting were impressive compared to the other 2 acts. By the time FMAC were a minute into The Chain you could see people leaving the venue. I think they were still expecting Stevie. All in all I thought they did well considering the 3 Rumours era singers/songwriters were not there. |
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