Set list Change in Oakland
 

They replaced Isn’t it Midnight with Hold Me last night. Personally I hate this change with a passion, but cool they made a change this far into the tour. Maybe more will come.

Also I’ve seen a 2 minute video of it so this wasn’t a typo or mistake on that set list site which I know had happened before.

I need to hear this now. I really love Isn't It Midnight so I would be pissed if I was at the show but I am interested in hearing it sounds with the current lineup.

I love it! I am seeing my 4th show on Wed and have seen them play different songs already! Love it.

Ok I just listened to the clip on fb and it's pretty freaking amazing. I don't see a way to share it but it's on this Fleetwood Mac group page.


https://www.facebook.com/groups/1029189097218827/

Well I'm glad I caught "Isn't It Midnight" in San Jose.

It's a long shot, but I hope it comes back when I see them again in Fresno...

Hold Me is a bigger crowd-pleaser, so it’ll probably stay.
I’d like to see Gypsy replaced with Sara.

Landslide:
https://www.pscp.tv/amyjj111/1lDxLMDpZPPKm

Dreams:
https://youtu.be/GqWgweNUe0g

Free Fallin:
https://youtu.be/Vrk3q7AiymI

Black Magic Woman:
https://youtu.be/9RSweHhuS-s

Oh Well:
https://youtu.be/wdChZdpj4cY

Mike does a pretty good job with the guitar parts on Hold Me. This addition is a pleasant surprise and I didn't even pay attention to what was on the screen behind them. :laugh:

Awesome Mike Campbell bathroom jam in Oaktown with Mike playing the Rick:
https://youtu.be/wdChZdpj4cY
Also Sharon and Marilyn will be back in the next installment for a repeat performance!

Joe Elliot from Def Leppard visiting Mike backstage:
https://twitter.com/DefLeppard/statu...23897642078208
I wonder if he spoke with Stevie about the R&R Hall of Fame Fan Ballot. :lol:

Darn. You have to join, I guess. I'll wait for a YouTube of it. Why do they keep throwing out existing songs to add new ones? Why not just add the new ones, keep the existing ones, and stay up five minutes later, the babies?

Here's something you might enjoy:
Ricky Peterson - A Tour of His 2018 Fleetwood Mac Keyboard Rig
https://youtu.be/8_w5ijo_9fY

The Mac pulls another deep track for a hit. This tells me with dropping Storms, Hypnotized, and the Finn song was not enough. The audience is looking bored to death so they must pump in more hits.

I cant imagine Hold Me without Lindsey btw.

Really cool and pared down! I'm still wondering why both Ricky and Christine are using a Hammond clone (the XK-5 on his part and possibly her part). Why does any band need two B3 generators? It's very strange. You just need one, no matter how big your band is.

Do you guys realize that this is the first Fleetwood Mac tour ever without an authentic Hammond onstage? They've never used a digital clone in place of the real thing before.

Hmm, I did notice that too, but authenticity doesn't seem to matter much to them these days.

Resting on Lindsey's laurels
 

One killer Buckingham McVie track replaced by another.

REVIEW: Fleetwood Mac get bluesy with new members in Oakland
OAKLAND — During its heyday in the ‘70s and ‘80s, Fleetwood Mac was nearly as famous for drama as for music. Despite big egos, love triangles and a penchant for indulgence, the band managed to crank out hit after hit and establish itself as true rock-pop royalty.

Following a widely publicized split with vocalist-guitarist (and key songwriter) Lindsey Buckingham, the band returned to the Bay Area, playing shows in San Jose, Sacramento and Oakland’s Oracle Arena on Sunday. For a band with such big personalities, the remaining members and two big additions showed that they are, as ever, more than the sum of their parts.

Taking the stage to the familiar opening kick drum thump, the band ripped through “The Chain,” a fan favorite that showcased the signature three-part vocal harmonies that define the Fleetwood Mac sound. Newcomer Neil Finn (Crowded House) held down the Lindsey Buckingham parts, including the iconic “Running in the shadows” line, to good effect.

A flurry of hits came next, each featuring a different lead vocalist: “Little Lies,” with Christine McVie up front, was followed by “Dreams” (Stevie Nicks) and “Second Hand News,” off Rumors, with Finn singing lead. Finn matched the soaring intensity of the original vocals without turning to mimicry. His performances throughout the night were solid and almost craftsman-like. It was clear he’s aware of the role he is now playing in a much larger musical machine. “Say You Love Me,” the Christine McVie-penned tune from the band’s 1975’s eponymous record, rounded out the string of chart toppers.

Casual fans may not be aware that Fleetwood Mac existed long before Lindsey Buckingham and his then-girlfriend Stevie Nicks joined the band on New Year’s Eve in 1974. The earlier incarnation, led by blues guitar god Peter Green, had a minor hit with the song “Black Magic Woman” in 1968. The version released by Carlos Santana in 1970 is, of course, far more famous, but songwriting credit goes to Green.

The addition of guitarist Mike Campbell (Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers) to the lineup gave Fleetwood Mac an ability to revisit its blues roots and stretch out into musical zones that the virtuosic Lindsey Buckingham was, apparently, less interested in exploring. Campbell dug deep on several tunes from the Peter Green era, including “Black Magic Woman” (with Nicks on vocals), “Tell Me All The Things You Do” and “Oh Well.” Elsewhere, Campbell proved more than versatile enough to pull off the sometimes-complicated guitar parts authored by his predecessor. One interesting side note on Campbell’s style versus Buckingham’s is that Campbell tends to play just a bit behind the beat (known as “in the pocket”) while Buckingham is often pushing on the front of the beat. This makes the whole groove feel a little more relaxed with Campbell at the helm.

The highlight of the evening was a double-bill of ballads. The first was “Don’t Dream It’s Over,” a Crowded House hit that Mick Fleetwood noted he had loved for years before he met Neil Finn. The crowd joined in en-masse during the chorus and didn’t stop singing as that song merged into the classic Stevie Nicks song “Landslide.” The arena was awash in swaying smart phone lights as the band changed gears and played “Hold Me.” It was the first full band performance of the song in 36 years.

An extended, trippy version of “Gold Dust Woman” let Stevie Nicks show off her vocal chops and ability to mesmerize even a huge crowd. She was in fine form and teased fans by saying that “Of all my hometowns, Oakland is the favorite.”

“Go Your Own Way” capped off the pre-encore set and, after a standing ovation, the band returned to perform a touching cover of Tom Petty’s “Free Fallin’” while a photo montage of Petty, Nicks and Campbell played on the video screens. The bouncy hit “Don’t Stop” closed out the show on a high note before Nicks and Christine McVie returned to duet on “All Over Again” and wish everyone well and good night.
http://www.riffmagazine.com/reviews/...-mac-20181125/

The Chain:
https://youtu.be/HL3uammwvyo

Gypsy:
https://youtu.be/Ol-I5m0gBq8

GYOW:
https://youtu.be/_ItHipB9YLo

Don't Stop:
https://youtu.be/nuIYtYYLfgo

Rhiannon:
https://youtu.be/0RVPieq71X0

Say You Love Me"
https://youtu.be/PAUmXmU0Xzs

You Make Loving Fun:
https://youtu.be/34r-If-HhTs

DDIO:
https://youtu.be/SzRFdvvCsJY

To be fair, Fleetwood Mac has played “Hold Me” less than “Isn’t It Midnight” in the past 36 years.

What I wonder is if the piano and backing vocals are pre-records, like on the LBCM tour.

Really. You really want to debate which is a deep track or which one the audience knows and does not know. Here is a hint. One song 98% of the arena knows and has heard before. You love to dissect everyone's comments and then spin them another way. I know, its your shdick.
Give it a rest ;)

Sorry dude...don't understand where on Earth you are coming from here. :shrug:

It was a fair comment. I'd personally prefer to hear Isn't It Midnight as I've never been a massive fan of Hold Me. However, I appreciate a lot of people like that song and are excited to hear it as it has not been played live for a long time by Fleetwood Mac. No need for vitriol.

Regardless of how often Hold Me has been played before, the band has slowly been deleting/replacing songs that made it a ballsy setlist in favor of safer.

Well, this is the first video I've watched in months of the present band on tour, and low and behold.............THERE'S THE TINY TOY PIANO......Mike is playing the tiny toy piano.

Maybe I'm not following what this is all about, could someone let me know if this is real instrument?

And Chris is not playing this part.....why?

Thanks.

She never used to, but she certainly could now. I guess she just doesn't want to? It's rather odd. But then, it's been an odd few years for the band.

Ridiculous comment
Hold Me is one of the Mac's biggest hits besides Dreams. While never making it to #1 it was deadlocked by huge hits taking up the #1 and #2 spots. It was one of the biggest hits in the USA in 1982.
As another poster pointed out, the set list keeps changing with a much safer hit orientated set list. Facts are facts. All the deep tracks are being eliminated. Hint: There were never that many deep tracks to begin with.
Its a very sorry dissection and distortion of comments to say a ridiculous comment "to be fair, Isn't It Midnight was played more in concert than Hold me" HELLO! That was not my point nor anyone else's. Hit VS Deep track. That was the point. I would love to hear Isn't It Midnight as well. That again is NOT THE POINT.

I simply said the setlist was dropping deep tracks for more "hits" It was a ridiculous comment that Steve said that had no relevance to what I said.

There are some on every message board who only comment on other people's comments. They never start threads or dare start a conversation. They only live to comment on other's comments. I find it annoying for someone to comment on my comment and pivot to something that was not the original intent. Its dumb, its stupid, and very annoying.

Brown Eyes was played more in concert than Hold Me by the Mac. If Brown Eyes was played during the current tour, its laughable to respond to a statement that deep tracks are being dropped for hits to say "to be fair, Brown Eyes was played more in concert than Hold Me"

Yeah ok, give me a break!

It’s not a tiny piano, it’s a Marxophone. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxophone

Here’s a demo: https://youtu.be/tyL5kRefsz0

Christine never played that part. Lindsey did it on guitar, live. It’s just something different.

“Hold Me” hasn’t been played by Fleetwood Mac in concert since 1982 and is the only Fleetwood Mac hit single that has never had an official live version commercially released. “Isn’t It Midnight” was on the TITN concert video. And, Tango sold like three to five times as many copies as Mirage and is their second highest selling album, so “Isn’t It Midnight” isn’t exactly an obscure Fleetwood Mac song.

Heaven forbid someone actually engages in discussions on a discussion board. And, I have started threads, so I don’t know (or care) where the hell that came from.

I guess people who aren’t incessantly pissing and moaning about every little thing Fleetwood Mac does these days have no place on a Fleetwood Mac message board anymore. There’s apparently no place for a positive viewpoint.

I suspect the reason for this particular change was less about replacing an “obscure” song with a “safe” song as it was changing to an easier to sing song.

I've got vocal damage
So how am I gonna manage this tune?
We're playing songs from Lindsey
But sold the tour as playin' the blues!

80 is just around the corner
I don't got a minute to spare!
A lawsuit waitin' for me...
I'll hide behind a curtain of hair!

Old me, old me, old me, yeah
Old me, old me, old meeee..

Christine sounds just fine on this—substantially better than a video posted a few weeks ago.

But why is there a baleen whale breaching on the video screen behind them? That is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Is it a deliberate joke?

Joe, this was your best one yet, you wag.

Just guessing, but it might be because it’s easier to transpose a note to a different pitch than learning to play a song in a different key.

THE first EVER?

I wonder if Oh Daddy is on their short list of songs that are on deck. I REALLY hope it is and preferably replacing Hold Me. I would honestly rather hear Oh Daddy then Isn’t It Midnight even. It’s literally the only one of my top 20 or so Fleetwood Mac songs that I haven’t seen live and I feel like this line up could do a killer version with the musical interludes. Stevie harmonies would be killer but I’d be equally satisfied if she sat it out.

And about the set list becoming way less daring but I think this is a case of not seeing the forest from the trees. People are way too focused on what song replaces what and what we should be focused on is that they added ANYTHING to the set this late in the tour. For the past 25 years their set lists have been set in stone by show 5. And then usually songs are only dropped not replaced. While again, I despise almost every change they’ve made especially since they’ve dropped 2 of the 4 songs I loved most about the opening night set (hypnotized and Isn’t It Midnight) BUT the big picture is this set is flexible and we can expect occasional changes at any point in the tour. And I’m hopeful that eventually they make a fu**ing decision that doesn’t suck! Maybe we’ll get 2-4 other Christine songs rotated in that isn’t it Midnight/Hold me slot. Maybe Why, think about me and Remener Me are options? Maybe Monday Morning gets replaced with Blue Letter or Sentimental Lady? Maybe they grow some balls and drop Second Hand News and bring back Hypnotized.

I’m not holding my breath for any of the above scenarios. But there is “hope”

My hope is dwindling and the more videos I see of it the more it hits me this Isn’t It Midnight For Hold Me swap is maybe the worst set list swap in Fleetwood Mac history. Isn’t it Midnight was a top 4 highlight of the night. Hold me
Is bad with Lindsey live but is downright awful with Neil and Mike. And I’m glad I can say this a very isolated failure on Mikes part as for his playing the entire show. I think most of these songs sound musically better then ever and fresh because of Mike (everywhere stands out the most on the videos I’ve seen) but he isn’t doing anything to help Hold Me.

Oh but it's a new band that's revitalized, isn't it!? All those early tracks back in the set that they somehow could never do in the past, but now they can!

Glad I never spent single dime on this tour. I really feel for the folks who really thought this was going to somehow be different. It's a hard lesson on how many cups of kool aid is too much.

Always watch a few YouTube videos of opening night FIRST, and then decide whether you want to be there in person.

I've been lucky enough to skip Fleetwood Mac concerts for thirty years, thanks to this innovative technique.

I don’t get how replacing “Isn’t It Midnight” with “Hold Me” has anything to do with what you’re talking about. The former was co-written by Lindsey and the latter was a duet with Lindsey. The only old song that got dropped was “Hypnotized” (which was a disappointing decision).

They’re still doing a couple of extended jams on older songs Lindsey wouldn’t have considered doing, as well as a song from “Time.”

But it has been different. Mike’s style is different from Lindsey’s, and in a way that adds a different character to the songs.

The opening night set list lived up to my expectations 110 percent. The specific songs they chose to drop this tour were as stated before their worst drops ever.

And I even find the current set list “exceptable” and very worthy of me buying a cheap seat to the show 10 minutes away from where I live. The stand out songs ARE the ones that probably wouldn’t have been done if Lindsey were in the band.black Magic Woman is the best live Fleetwoodac song of the century and would a sloth ave not been done or nearly as well with Lindsey. And I say that as someone who couldn’t have loved his show more last week, probably better then any Fleetwood Mac show since the Say You Will Tour.

This tour is still vastly different without Lindsey even if at times it’s not an inrovement. But Black Magic Woman, Free Fallin, Tell Me all the Things You Do, All Over Again and Hypnotized wouldn’t have been included if Lindsey was there. And yes I know Hypnotized was dropped and most people who were against this line up from the beginning aren’t going to consider Free Falling a benefit because it’s a Tom Petty cover, but how can you not call that one of the highlights of the show.


So in conclusion even as is,this is different enough to meet the bare expectations and get me to buy a crap seat. The opening night set had me either springing for 1 front row ticket or 2 decent tickets to 2 cities.