Songs they will keep/drop/add
 

What songs will Fleetwood Mac keep or drop or add? And no, I didn't mean to post this in Post Rumours. If it's Fleetwood Mac without Christine, then it's Fleetwood Mac without Lindsey. And all who disagree can go cry in the corner.

Keep:
Christine - You Make Loving Fun, Say You Love Me, Everywhere, Little Lies, Don't Stop, World Turning
Stevie - Dreams, Gold Dust Woman, Gypsy, Landslide (with Mike), Silver Springs, Rhiannon

Drop:
Christine - Over My Head, Think About Me
Stevie - Sisters of the Moon, Sara

Add:
Christine - New song (could be a BuckVie song, maybe Red Sun or Carnival Begin), Get Like You Used To Be, Why, Just Crazy Love
Stevie - Stand Back, Crying in the Night, Stop Dragging My Heart Around, I Need to Know, Free Falling, new song (maybe My Mother's Rings)

Stevie
Add: Angel, Everybody Finds Out, Paper Doll, Freedom
Do not add: Any solo or TP songs.

Christine
Add: Think About Me, Love In Store, Songbird, Isn't It Midnight, Save Me

That is all.

8,363,838th thread on this topic.

It's post-Rumours because the touring band has new (post-Rumours) members, just like when Lindsey left and Christine and Stevie were still in the band. Would you do a thread completely devoted to the touring setlist of the Behind the Mask crew in Rumours or Post-Rumours?

SYW Mac didn't have new members.

Why is this so hard for people? The 2003-2013 band didn’t add any members to replace Christine. The 2018+ band is a completely different lineup with official members added to the band in replacement of Lindsey.

The OP is really suggesting that there should just be a 1975+ forum no matter which of the five different lineups from that era are being discussed.

What they need to do is change the post-Rumours forum description. I agree that this is post-Rumours due to new members being added that are not of the Rumours era, but the other forum's description confuses people since it does not apply as stated there.

I believe Sister NightRoad said the moderators had a discussion and agreed that for the sake of simplicity items related to the new line up should stay here.

Kill Paper Doll and substitute for Thrown Down or Illume or something and I'll agree whole-heartedly.

Straight Back substituted for SotM would be interesting as well, but it'll never happen.

Drop:
All of Lindsey’s songs except GYOW, and possibly SHN.
Stevie: All songs NOT Dreams, Landslide, Rhiannon, GDW, or Gypsy
Christine: All songs NOT SYLM, YMLF, Don’t Stop, Songbird, or Everywhere

Add:
Station Man
Oh Well
Rattlesnake Shake
Man of the World
Spare Me A Little Of Your Love
Hypnotized
DDIO
Something So Strong
Running Down A Dream
Stop Dragging My Heart Around


Including The Chain and World Turning, that’s 23-24 songs, which is about right, give or take.

Actually, there needs to be a new section: Post-Reunion

Post-Rumours is part of a linear timeframe that has nothing to do with current lineup, except maybe for the fact Mike Campbell co-wrote “Freedom.”

No one mentioned "Don't Dream ..It's Over" which is sure to be performed .A fitting epitaph for a once great band.

I think Stevie confirmed they were doing it. How could they not? It’s arguably the best pop song of the 1980s. You don’t have THAT guy in the band and not do THAT song.

Surely with news of the sad passing of Danny Kirwan, including Station Man in the set would be a lovely tribute to the man and this great song?

Good Lord, Steve. NFW.

I mean, it's a nice ditty. We all sang along back in the day. I'm sure the band will play it.

Yeah right!!!! Just like they did for Bob Welch, who was infinitely more important to the history of the band!

You could argue that but I'm not going to agree. I mean, there is a LOT of pop songs in that decade. It's a good song, but the best? :shrug:

Maybe it's a result of my age (born at the end of the first year of said decade), I knew the song Don't Dream it's Over and could probably have sung along to it for most of my life (at least since it's release), but I never knew who sang it until this whole "we fired Lindsey" thing happened.

And if they do play it, one of two things will happen:
1) The put it in the middle of the set and half the audience shrugs and goes to take a leak or get more beer and it gets yanked out of the set after a few shows
or
2) They play it as the first song (a la 197-...6?) and half the audience shrugs but sits there with blank stares and it gets yanked out of the set after a few shows

The band ignored it's own past for so long that by now the vast majority of what has been cultivated as a Fleetwood Mac audience in 2018 doesn't even realize or care that there was other singers than Stevie, Chris, and he who shall not be named. I highly doubt they'd have the balls to keep a song in their set long term where they get no audience reaction or half of them use it as a beer run. Springsteen they are not.

They WON'T do it. Trust me. I'll wager pretty much any amount.

It's the $tevie Nick$ show now.

The one interesting thing about this tour is going to be how much gets "yanked out" after the first few shows. I actually think the set list for this mini tour could move around a bit--they are going to try to dig into their gothic trunk of lost songs, which I actually think is cool--but the jukebox generation that is paying up for this isn't going to recognize the old stuff (pre S&L) and stuff will get dropped and rejiggered.

I for one don't think they should sing any of Lindsey's songs. I know Mick thinks you need to end the show with GYOW, but it will just call out the elephant in the room. I am sure they will keep it--but they shouldn't.
And I am sure Mick Fleetwood's all-star band will add DDIO and TPH tunes-
I also think Songbird will come and go throughout the tour, depending on the strength of Christine's voice (similar to OWTS--although I believe then the issue was a hand injury and she couldn't play piano?)

of course, Stevie is adamant that Station Man is a Christine song and has apparently never heard of Danny Kirwan. :distress:

Here’s the thing that I don’t get, nobody ever suggests that they shouldn’t do NEW songs because half the crowd will get up to for a leak or beer run, just the old songs.

Their history suggests otherwise. They kept Peter Green songs in the set that were from long out of print albums and not available on CD in America at the time during the 1987-88 and 1990 tours. The songs they are talking about are not nearly as obscure.

as a rule, LB would never drop more obscure or new songs they played where he was the lead - think his SYW songs or Sad Angel, as the recent example.

SN would always drop her songs that are more obscure as the tour would go on - like her new songs on SYW tour, or Without You on 2013 tour, or Seven Wonders on OWTS tour.

since i have to assume none of the pre-BN era songs will be performed primarily by SN, it is possible they won't be dropped.

And with Stevie, I think she drops stuff that becomes more taxing on her voice as the tour goes on.

The other thing is that they'll need to fill Lindsey’s space in the setlist, so the old songs are now a necessity.

Not if they do 4 $tevie Nick$ solo songs, especially the long, drawn out ones. Throw in a couple Crowded House songs, and a couple Petty songs, and....."Lindsey WHO?" :mad::mad::mad:

I don’t think Stevie wants to sing more than her 6-8 songs. That said, I think they will do five old Mac songs, 1-2 CH songs, 1-2 TPATH songs, and SDMHA.

S&L Yanked their own songs out. I don't think Stevie will have any issue yanking someone else's song out if she looks out to the masses and sees empty seats :) LOL

Again, though, they didn’t yank songs like “I Loved Another Woman” or “Stop Messin’ Round” and those hadn’t been in-print in America since the mid-1970s, so I don’t know why people are expecting anything different on this tour.

Well that was still decades ago and things could have changed. Their audience has certainly changed. But either way if they're gonna drop any songs as the tour progresses it will probably be a group agreement based on crowd reaction.

Did Stevie drop songs on her last tour?

Yes she did, but it was subtle. Leather and Lace was in there in the beginning and ultimately punted, although I can't figure out why. It was really well done. I feel like there was one more change too, but for the life of me, can't recall it.

I'm not sure actually. What I saw, she played like 2 songs from the 24KG album and 2 from IYD if I'm remembering correctly. Those were the probably the 'least' known songs. All the other songs were her older, more well known ones. Oh and Crying in the Night. I don't know if the set list changed throughout the tour.

Oh I do know that. It was replaced by Landslide.

that would be interesting thought except it runs contrary to the facts. not all non-staple songs are taxing on her voice yet generally keep being dropped, while some staples are, yet keep staying in the set. Silver Springs has been a staple and is taxing on her voice, and while is dropped some shows it's generally always brought back during a tour. of course, now without LB it seem asinine to still have it in the set, but it's even more asinine to have the Chain in the set and you know they will. :rolleyes:

Lindsey does not yank his songs out, staples or deep cuts.

on OWTS they did replace 1 each song for the Australian leg - IKINW came out and BTLH in, Sara replaced SOTM, and TAM replaced OMH.

however Seven Wonders was completely dropped during US leg already.

if i remember correctly, she had a really impressive deep cut / new releases setlist at first, with hardly any staples / FM hits. several not well known songs were eventually replaced by FM hits as the tour was going on, but i think even in the end it was pretty impressive setlist for her.

She did a fantastic job of pulling the obscure stuff out. I loved her last tour. It was fantastic.

She dropped Annabel Lee entirely (bummer) after a show or two and replaced Leather & Lace with Landslide (Not something that bothered me personally).

Outside the Rain/Dreams was replaced with Gypsy for a while before they were both added back to the set to replace New Orleans, with Gypsy remaining.

So yes, but still good for her with 8-9 non-staples (depending on your definition) persistent throughout.
1. Crying in the Night
2. Belle Fleur
3. Moonlight
4. If You Were My Love
5. Starshine
6. Gold & Braid
7. Enchanted (kind of a staple at this point but not a mainstream song)
8. Wild Heart
9. Bella Donna
10. New Orleans (replaced right at the end)
11. Annabel Lee (dropped)

So, Stevie has no aversion to doing obscure stuff, and the band has shown in a different era that they don’t have an aversion to playing obscure stuff. Then, the question still remains why people think she or the others will drop lesser known stuff when there’s nothing in their history to suggest that they will?

Oh Well, Rattlesnake Shake, Hypnotized, and Station Man are not really all that obscure, especially compared to what the Mac did with Rick Vito or what Stevie did on her last tour.

It never ceases to amaze me, at how down you are with this new lineup.


You know this isn't 1987, right? Do you realize the attention span of the average person, now? 98% of people couldn't give AF about Station Man, or ANY of the other songs you listed. SURE, WE DO, but we're in the 2%, NOT the asses that they want in the freaking seats. Not the asses that are going to shell out big dough, en masse, for this debacle of a lineup.