Mick Fleetwood doesn't think Fleetwood Mac will Reunite with Ex Members
"Mick Fleetwood doesn't think Fleetwood Mac will Reunite with Ex Members"
https://canoe.com/entertainment/musi...ith-ex-members The title of the piece and Mick's evasive language try to lump Green, Spencer, and Buckingham together in the same category as "ex members" but reading not so subtly between the lines, it's clear he's making an argument for going forward without Buckingham: "I don't think there will be a point where the band's former members all end up back in a good place together." Quit the doublespeak, Mick. What you really mean is "I don't think Stevie will ever consent to working with Lindsey again on stage, so he's out. We're standing by her." Just say it, coward. |
Not surprised at all.
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I live in hope.
If Lindsey almost dying doesn't do it, maybe Stevie has to experience something herself (I'm not ill-wishing her), but something needs to crack that heart of stone. |
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I think nothing will make her change her mind about Lindsey. Sadly, she finally showed her true colors. On BBC 2 Mick at least acknowledged Lindsey's huge contribution to the band's legacy. :shrug: |
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Thank goodness! I NEVER ever ever want LB to breathe the same air as that gagworthy solipsistic bunch of has-beens.
This is GREAT news to me therefore. Let 'em rot elsewhere, far away from LB :blob1: |
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They’re determined to ignore Lindsey, so this is most likely their farewell tour :shrug: |
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This article makes me so sad. I imagine Lindsey's reaction upon reading it. Feelings of hopelessness. I never imagined this before but I can picture him falling into uncontrollable tears. I want to reach out and give my precious Lindsey a cyber hug. I can't even imagine how crappy this makes him feel. I was so hoping Stevie would soften her anger over time and be calculating a new way to bring Lindsey back to the band.
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Mick is absolutely certain he's honoring Lindsey? In which way? Ignoring his calls and choosing Stevie's side of the story over his? He didn't even let the man defend himself from whatever Stevie decided he did wrong in her twisted world.
On the BBC 2 Radio interview he said Danny was at the first Wembley concert. So, they honor every former band member for their contribution but they chose to ignore Lindsey? |
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And I'm more surprised at Christine's coldness. I said many times I'm not giving a pass to any of them. It's easy to blame Mick and/or Stevie but the truth is they all remained quiet (even Campbell and Finn) and let things happen. |
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“Neil Finn singing Second Hand News at Fleetwood Mac did a good job but must be weird knowing 75000 people watching wish you were somebody else :( “ |
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Well I was at one of the first concerts of the On with the Show tour, october 2014, and frankly I didn't like Lindsey's voice. It was far lower than the last time I saw them (2009). Christine's voice wasn't the same either, but, to be honest, it was his voice that made me think... Ok, they are not singing that good anymore. Though the show was stunning, I think I'd understand if this is the last tour. My personal opinion.
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What bothers me - but doesn’t surprise me because every single thing Kristen Buckingham states turned out completely truthful over and over again - so yeah what does bother me is that Mick confirmed he hasn’t reached out to Lindsey even after Lindsey almost died. And he doesn’t even understand how horrible of a person that makes him look. Makes all of them look. Because they are such bad people that they obviously don’t get the most normal decent human behavior. |
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My two cents;
I think Chris was fine with Linds until the suit. She may have taken that a little personally even though she shouldn't have. I think she took it more as a slam at all of them rather than Linds just getting his due. Either way, I don't think she is one to hold a grudge anyway, look at all the crap the band has been through and she stuck in through the majority of the way regardless. As far as Mick's comments go, we all know exactly what he meant; "I don't think there will be a point where the band's former members all end up back in a good place together.... unless of course our fellow guitarists leave and we cannot continue, then of course we would be willing to negotiate a sit-down for a potential reunion. The door is always open, always revolving." |
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"BuckVie album was happy and warm. But live Lindsey worked really hard to carry her on their tour."
Totally agree. It was kind of sad. She was definitely frail. And it seemed like Lindsey was holding back, careful not to upstage her too much. |
what was really interesting was that during the making of BuckVie Chris said that Stevie would call her periodically to ask how things were going and how Lindsey was behaving. Chris said she would report to Stevie that he was indeed "being a good boy" -- whatever that means. No outbursts? Not being too bossy pants? It wasn't clear. But it felt like Stevie was gauging maybe whether to ever agree to record again or not based on how he was with Chris, or maybe she was gauging how he was with someone other than herself ("oh he's all collaborative with Chris but not with me" or whatever). Did she think she had to be big sister looking out for Chris from big bad LB? The whole thing was very curious.
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He may have been holding back a little, but I didn't see that. |
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Thankfully, we still have the great tunesmith she is who can make very good records. I'm still hoping (no matter how delusional) for another solo or LB-collaboration from her... |
What they did to Lindsey was horrific and bullying, esp Mick and Stevie.
How John and Chris went along with it is ridiculously mean, and spineless. How Mike and Neil went along with this............I don't care about the paycheque for them, even Rock n Roll has some kind of moral code about screwing over fellow artists, and I don't care about whether they were in the dark-at some point they found out what went down.....I'm sure that there must be higher morals around than here. How they all ghosted him: they are all petty, rude and immature. How they all ghosted him after a major health event: beyond anything I can even explain, I'm still shaking my head. And Mick admitting to it in the press, stupid a$$hole. He's so stupid he doesn't even realize how bad he looks. For all those people making the snide and rude comments about Kristen, she has been DEAD RIGHT about this group of a$$holes. Thank goodness for her, or we may never have known what really went down. Lindsey, my heart still breaks for him, every single time any of them open their mouths in an interview or a concert. He loved them, and put his heart and soul into this band, it still has to hurt.....no matter how much we think he's better off without them (and he is), it's just got to hurt him. |
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He was so making sure she can shine on BuckVie tour and was covering for any problems she may have had. Now when he’s not there, she’s getting slammed. You may not like the backing tracks and that’s a fair complaint, but blaming LB for everything and anything that’s been going on for decades is getting old. He’s not there now so it’s time to stop blaming him for bands problems that are now so obvious and laid bare in recent European reviews. |
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But I’m an LB fan. So I’m assuming your comment “it’s time to stop blaming him...” was addressed to the general public and not to me in particular. If it was the latter, you’re off base. |
I love the Rumours 5. And I could forgive them a lot. A LOT. The drama, the BS, the fake love story (that I don't think too many people actually bought?) the lies, etc. But they crossed the line this time. That CBS interview needs to go down as the biggest load of horse sh*t ever. I would love to bend Anthony Mason's ear on that.
There was never a question as to whether or not I would see this current configuration. I wouldn't. I have a ton of respect for Mike Campbell. I saw TPH the July before TP passed away at Forest Hills in NY--Would say the best venue ever to see a concert and I would pay top dollar to see the Rumours 5 play there. I put that concert in my top 5 concerts of all time. But Mike Campbell is not FM. I have respect for Neil Finn as a musician and an artist, but I am not New Wave fan, and to me, CH is New Wave. I saw the videos of GYOW and SHN and he admirably tried to do what LB did, but he couldn't. NF does not belong in a band like FM. He just doesn't. Christine coming back to FM in 2014/15 was a dream come true. And I loved her until she went all "Benedict Arnold" so this is really tough for me to say, but Christine's voice is shot. Just shot. Like ears bleeding. I don't understand the notion "she's a great studio singer". Does that mean once all the technology in the studio manipulates her voice so it's palpable to the human ear, she's great? FM is a live concert nostalgia act. That's all they do, all they will ever do ever more. If she can't sing unless someone is manipulating her vocals to unrealistic like levels, she shouldn't be there. Mick is a total buffoon and I actually believe would do ANYTHING for a buck. And as time goes on, I am more convinced John McVie might be a hologram. Honestly, the only person in the band who has held up, and whose voice has matured in a way that, listening to her earlier stuff makes sense, is Stevie. And factoring in studio "manipulation" She sounded fairly consistent on this tour. FM has truly become Stevie's backing band. |
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But being a studio vocalist isn’t just about relying on studio machinery. All of the FM singers (and many more in the business) use the machinery. But none of that machinery would matter if the singer doesn’t still have their tone and phrasing. When people (like me) say Christine is a good studio singer, they mean she can do as many takes as she needs in a chamber like setting that allows her to annunciate without having to shout to be heard. Many great singers in rock were essentially studio singers and not as effective live. (Diana Ross and Olivia Newton John are examples.) When Christine sings on record she sounds like she always has. So, I still say she’s a great studio singer. Her voice has its same warmth and I get the same emotional response from a song like say, “Red Sun” that I get from “Over My Head.” The voice still sounds intact. If she needs some gadgetry to help her along, I’ll take it because no one else sounds like her and I still long for music from her. For what it’s worth, her voice was really shot during the Mirage tour. And there’s a 1977 bootleg of her singing YMLF where she sounds like a dying whale. Other times, she was spot on. And some of the clips from the current tour show her occasionally rising to an acceptable standard, so her on-again/off-again difficulty with live shows has been around for a loooooooong time. |
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It's sad that it's all come to this. They really should hang it up. :distress: Know what? They did, the minute they fired Lindsey. |
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Love coming here to trash this pathetic cover band :nod::laugh: |
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Hi-I thought I responded here earlier and realized I didn't. Thank you for sharing your perspective on what you meant on Studio musicians. It makes sense. I think she actually sounded the best during The Dance. I was so happy to have her back during OWTS, but there were some blips. I think the energy made up for the blips. I miss the dynamic of the Rumours 5. Full disclosure I didn't attend any of these shows, but the videos I've seen--its the dynamic and energy missing (IMO) perhaps that's what Christine is lacking? |
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