The videos we have never seen
 

What other songs do we wish had videos? And I mean not just concert recordings but produced videos, like Gypsy, As long as you follow, Big Love, etc. It is true that MTV appeared in August 1981 but before that there were already notable productions such as those by Queen, Abba, Bowie, Blondie, Boomtown Rats and so on.

There are many on my list but the ones that come to mind right now are videos of Love in Store, Sara, Isn't it midnight, Monday Morning.

Neat question. I always thought Warner and FM kind of blew a unique opportunity by not having the band appear in Everywhere- what a great way to introduce Rick and Billy to the audience! I know they were strapped for time because Lindsey’s departure only left less than 2 months to prepare for the tour, but I think it would have paid off. Same thing with Isn’t It Midnight- a video showcasing Rick playing guitar would have been excellent.

Over My Head always kind of reminds me of a day at the fair or carnival, so seeing FM walking around a fair (and before they became famous) would have been easy to do. Can you imagine Lindsey, Stevie, and Christine sitting on a Ferris Wheel or carousel LOL?

Sara lended itself to a concert performance- I think a produced video would have diminished the song.

The most frustrating/annoying thing being a Mac fan in the late 80s and early 90s was the MTV did not air the videos for Everywhere, As Long As You Follow, and Skies the Limit. Back then Vh1 was sort of the easy listening/oldies video channel. You had to hunt them down on Vh1.
After 3 singles and 3 videos, the Mac was busy on tour so that explains the dumb and memberless video for Everywhere. I have ALWAYS thought the Everywhere video should have been taken from their video/live concert that is performed live. I always thought that would have been a hit on MTV to see the band perform live with the new members.
I know the band barely could get through the Hold Me video but I wish there was video for Love In Store. It would have promoted the song to maybe even crack the top 10. It was almost unheard of for a single not to have a video in 1982. In some ways the videos made the song more popular than the radio.

More concert footage from the Dave Walker era would be highly appreciated. To my knowledge there is only one video from the Penguin lineup up on YouTube and it doesn't even have any audio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WndOAs8Lc9M&t=41s

To my knowledge, there are no videos of Lindsey Buckingham playing his double neck guitar.

I really would like to see a performance of Future Games and Sands Of Time, and of course, more with Bob Weston and Bob Welch together!!
Even when I have on my mind an entire version of Mirage on video, more videos of Tusk would have been amazing for their time, but something original, not just the band performing like on the Rumours classics!
I can't imagine Love Is Dangerous without a music video with Stevie with her very long hair and a hat and Rick with his pretty guitar!!

I might be crazy, but I thought at one point I read/heard somewhere that there was video for "No Questions Asked" that got scrapped...?

While they weren't blowing up MTV at that moment, they all looked great and any extra coverage couldn't have hurt.

On first read I agreed, but after second thoughts I think it could be done. It would be a Citizen Kane of music videos. Think Meatloaf's Anything For Love video, but instead Stevie plays a gothic crone, cooped up in a castle turret, singing mournfully at her piano surrounded by candles... Wait, she could just record this herself over Zoom right now.

Maybe. Gypsy is certainly a great song, but the video actually added to the power of the song- throwing in the Great Depression, which isn’t in the song but is something I envision when I hear the song now.

I wonder if Gypsy would have been nearly as big a hit, if it weren't for that "off the charts" video? I watched it last night for the first time in a long, long time.

Mick, John, and Christine were originally featured in the video. Maybe they were taken out to avoid confusion about who was in the band?

https://youtu.be/MmyDosjjP5U

I agree, it did add. The video reflects Stevie's fantasy world, though along the 80's that fantasy went too far, but at the time of the video it was great.

and that a new cable television channel called MTV was broadcasting our new videos ("Hold Me" set in desert dunes, "Gypsy" in a Stevie fantasy world).
(Mick's first book).

I would put my money on the depression theme was not Stevie's idea. They paid HUGE bucks for a movie director who probably came up with that concept IMHO. Stevie never had the say over her Civil War Stand Back video either. Some video "expert" painted the picture for her and she said ok. Then when she saw it, was not thrilled with it.

I also don't believe anyone in the band came up with the desert Hold Me theme either. Can someone chime in? They never were crazy about making videos. The record company insisted and hired creative people for the concept. I don't see the band saying....Yay, lets go to the desert heat and film a video. IMHO one reason they were so pissed off about the process is what they had to go through. Didn't John punch one of the directors during the shoot?

You mean it was very hot that day there? (Actually I never knew where Hold me was filmed).

I never liked the Hold Me video, it is so simple, I mean it could be filmed in a desert, or in a beach, a garden, etc. and the result would be almost the same.

Yes not long ago the director of the video spilled the beans. They were all in separate tents and it was miserably hot. The band was not getting along which is why you never see them all together in a video shot. Stevie was high as a kite and was sinking through the sand. John was drunk and punched the producer. Sand blowing in everyone's eyes. It was a neat concept though.

I always wished Straight Back and That's Alright had videos.

I doubt it.

That video was insanely popular and in constant rotation on MTV.

If ANY music video was ever art, Gypsy was IT.

Agreed! I love the depression-era portion where she’s walking like an urban gypsy down the streets of some city…


And, for what it’s worth, though it’s Chicken Shack and not FM, I’ve always wished there was live footage of I’d Rather Go Blind.

I wish Storms and Over & Over had videos

The Hold Me video gives me Raiders of the Lost Ark vibes.
The film was released one year before the music video.

I just always kept waiting for them to say the word Mirage because I thought it was the title track. :laugh:

Actually, I think you hit the nail on the head- I’d never thought of it before, but it makes perfect sense that whoever came up with the concept for the Hold Me video took the cue from the name of the album and that’s why it takes place in the desert.

Good job, jbrownsjr!

The video had mirages in it. Doesn't Lindsey throw his guitar through one of them?

Yes! Now it makes sense. Now, does anybody know why they named the album Mirage? If I read about it I just forget. About the hands illusion effect, I guess it's something fans have speculated, don't know if the band confirmed it is.

I think mirrors is the word you're looking for, dear...

Bless your heart....








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Mirrors that implicated a mirage. I think during the lead up to the Big Love video premier on MTV Mark Goodman said the same thing about the special effects in the video Hold Me.

In your mind, what does the mirror image represent? Mike Pence as the Mona Lisa? I think most people got the basic special effect that it was a mirage or mirage type vision. Stevie walking on top of a sand hill with a giant painting is not seen as some sort of mirage to you? Why must we always have to explain the basics to you?
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It looks like a mirage, until Lindsey throws the guitar because he presumably realizes it’s a mirror. So I think it’s fair to say Villavic spoke correctly.

I’ve never heard how they came up with Mirage, which is interesting because they have said many times how they came up with the names Rumours and Tusk.

I like they stuck to another one word title, and the only reason I can think for the name is maybe it was metaphorical. Is it true, or just a mirage that FM is back together. You know, that sort of thing. After Tusk and Bella Donna, there were doubts FM would make another album. That’s the only thing I can think of.

I'm an extremely concrete person. The exact opposite of Stevie.

It's been a long time since I've seen it, but I only remember Lindsey throwing his guitar through it. To me, it was just a mirror?:shrug:

What is this Mike Pence OBSESSION you have? You watch Mike Pence porn while you're doing the rattlesnake shake?

I think because they're not particularly proud of Mirage. At least not in comparison to Rumours and Tusk.

Even Pitchfork acknowledged the ambiguity surrounding Mirage's title.

"It’s hard to find any comment about why they chose to name their thirteenth record (and fifth under this lineup) Mirage, though the resonance is obvious in hindsight: It’s the illusion of the band, rather than the full-blooded beast."
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22134-mirage/

You and Mike Pence are both from Indiana which means you are related some how if you know what I mean.

I remember an interview with the band asking about the Mirage title and they could not explain it either except John McVie came up with the title. Anyone remember that or something different? John named Rumours and Mirage.
I actually like the title of all the Fleetwood Mac albums especially Mirage. Mystery To Me is my favorite then Tango In The Night and Rumours and Mirage. I also like Behind The Mask including the cover.

Wow, I would agree with that assessment. It does seem to be the illusion of a band album, rather than the full-blooded beast. Every album from Tusk on, with the exception of Behind the Mask, lacks the band sound from the White Album and Rumours. Not entirely, but a lot of it.

Did you know Behind the Mask was originally titled Twist of Fate? That would have been an interesting title, but I like BTM, too. The Dance, I don’t care for that title. Totally don’t get that one at all.

Speaking as somebody who generally HATES politics, I will say that I attended TWO ANTI PENCE rallies, when he was governor here.

The only rallies I've attended in my life.

So there!

I remember your Mike Pence stories and that is why I bring him up. Part of my sparking personality and unique charm is to dig into your psychosis and highlight what annoys you the most ;)

I remember an interview with L&S, they said it's a Matisse painting. Can't remember why they chose it. I mean obviously it's five people but don't know if any member had that paint replica or just saw it once and got the idea to name the album.

https://painting-planet.com/images/8/image572.jpg

Madame, you have earned your PhD in doing that.

One of the mirages was Stevie Nicks looking over the canvas she was painting on and seeing...Stevie Nicks, draped in red in the desert.